Brace Yourselves For War Between Iran and Israel

axj said:
Though if the US bombs Iran even more after some false flag, Israel will also continue being bombed by Iran. Do the Israelis think that they can outlast Iran in a war of attrition if the US is fully involved as well?
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Maybe the bigger question is, will China, Russia, North Korea, Pakistan, etc., just sit back and let it all happen from the sidelines? Economics and finance perhaps the biggest factor. Certainly both Russia and China have a lot invested in the Middle East and an extreme threat to their investments will be reason enough for them to do more than just condemn and warn, osit. Trump's continuing bluster about how great our military is makes me think we're being set up for the greatest of falls. And sadly, the bad guys who've orchestrated all this war terror will make it more than justified.
 
Alex Jones claims his "sources" in the administration claim a regime change is happening now. That he has gotten the military to throw the Ayatollah under the bus and agree to the ceasefire, while the Ayatollah has not agreed to it. Sort of what I wondered might be happening (I assumed they killed the Ayatollah though). Not good for the people of Iran if it is true - another globalist puppet or probably a sectarian Civil War like Syria.
https://twitter.com/x/status/1937315748814246103
 
Alejo said:
Sounds like they're looking to back out of it. No regime change, no real damage considering the extend of the bombardment and all the chest pumping. But at the same time, if they claim they accomplished their goals of getting Iran away from a nuke, what are they going to complain about eventually?

Something's really off with this whole situation.
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axj said:
Israel rearms for a while and then suddenly an "Iranian sleeper cell" does something in the West, so more bombing of Iran is necessary. Or maybe it will be the same old "Iran is again only two weeks away from developing a nuke". Maybe Iran and Israel will introduce a traditional bombing of each other at regular intervals now.
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Or a false flag in the middle east, or even in Israel itself.. For example, with Israel's horrendous crimes inflaming public opinion more and more, and with Netanyahu being increasingly singled out (or so it seems to me) as the ONE true devil, the one who is ultimately responsible for all the atrocities.. I think his untimely demise would both make for a perfect scapegoat to "cleanse" the nation's reputation in the west AND provide ample justification to reenter the conflict at a time of Israel's choosing. I'll admit my ignorance of Israelian politics, maybe he's still too valuable for the PTB and overlords to sacifice for now, but I doubt that anyone would be truly untouchable. Of course, if it's just to justify a re-escalation, many other target would work just as well. They may also want to save the scapegoat for a time when they are "done" in Gaza, I guess.

Or they could "bravely and courageously" sacrifice their peace to "liberate" the strait of Hormuz (alongside their western friends, either from the get-go or midway through), rescuing the world from economic strife. A shower of praises to wash away all the blood on the "heroes" hands.

So many options, whenever they want, to get Israel, the US and even NATO involved and convince their populations to go along with it.

Or, focusing on regime change and having learned that a population under attack has a tendency to unite behind their leadership (hence the need for a ceasefire), they may leave aside military operations against Iran for a while and pursue some other avenues of attack. The usual tactics. A slower approach presumably, but maybe seen as inevitable at this point, given the strenght of their enemy and the seeming reticence of their allies.
 
It is confusing
This interpretation from Arnaud Bertrand
What an utterly confusing post. So 6 hours from now, there's a 12 hour ceasefire, which means that on the "24th hour" the "12 DAY WAR" will end?
But "officially" it's Iran that'll start the ceasefire 6 hours from now and Israel will only start it upon "the 12th hour"?
And what "12th hour": the one 12 hours after the 6th hour, or is it 12 hours from now?
And the "24th hour" is a) 24 hours from now, b) 24 hours after the 6th hour or c) 24 hours after the 12th hour? If it's a), does it therefore mean that it's 6 hours after the 12th hour, assuming the 12-hour countdown starts 6 hours from now?
My head hurts...
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This interpretation from IntelSlava TC
• Trump declares ceasefire, vaguely implies it'll start at 12AM eastern (in 3 minutes)
• Everyone then says it'll start at 8:30PM eastern
• Israelis launch huge attack on Tehran right up until 8:29
• Iranian FM vaguely implies that a ceasefire is now in effect, without saying it explicitly
• After a short break, Iran strikes Israel
• Now Israeli sources say the ceasefire is actually supposed to start at 11:00PM
• Netanyahu vaguely says that a ceasefire will start at 12AM
• At 11PM the Iranian strikes stop and every news aggregator says that Iran and Israel have both declared the ceasefire in effect
• Two minutes later Iran launches more missiles
• They've now been pounding Israel for almost an hour straight
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Amendment to the podcast by Richard Medhurst above. I came onto the livestream in progress and missed a bit. According to multiple sources (including Prof Morandi and CNN!) the Trump ceasefire is fake news. The Iranian government says absolutely no ceasefire has been reached; Trump is lying!
 
Evan said:
The Iranian government says absolutely no ceasefire has been reached
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As for Iranian government is just Foreign Minister of Iran Seyed Abbas Araghchi "The military operations of our powerful Armed Forces to punish Israel for its aggression continued until the very last minute, at 4am", of what time line? zone? ...there were reports at Iranian Telegram channels, that at Iran, the ceasefire started at 8:30 am (more or less) Iran time because it was supposedly 6/12 hours? , after Trump's post --the numbers did not add up to me, though.

But, had not found statement or agreement from the president of Iran Masoud Pezeshkian, his latest X post was this, not related any to ceasefire, nor from Supreme Leader of Iran Ali Hosseini Khamenei, his post: "Those who know the Iranian people and their history know that the Iranian nation isn’t a nation that surrenders." post hours before the alleged ceasefire. So, is weird.

And, latest from TasnimNews Telegram Channel --posted at 10:47 pm CST
Tel Aviv: Ceasefire begins between Tehran and Tel Aviv

🔹 The Israeli Radio and Television Organization claimed that a ceasefire has begun between Tehran and Tel Aviv.
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https://twitter.com/x/status/1937370618766467346

Several flights can confirmed it, and the area within Israel, Syria, Iraq and Iran is pretty much avoided.


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PS: The Flightradar time may not match with the time of this post.
 
I'm starting to think that maybe Trump is in the first stages of elderly dementia. He's trying to play his usual '5D chess', the 'art of the deal', as he has quite successfully (debatable) done for decades, but now he's clearly lost his touch. And if that is the case, the worst thing is that he's probably not aware of this deterioration – he's in Dunning-Kruger mode thinking that he's 'The One'! And maybe that's why he's postings on SM has become more stupid, and more 'big and beautiful' (using caps and 'big words'). And, if he has an onset of dementia, it would also be easier to manipulate and influence him in various ways. Not good!
 
mabar said:
As for Iranian government is just Foreign Minister of Iran Seyed Abbas Araghchi "The military operations of our powerful Armed Forces to punish Israel for its aggression continued until the very last minute, at 4am", of what time line? zone? ...there were reports at Iranian Telegram channels, that at Iran, the ceasefire started at 8:30 am (more or less) Iran time because it was supposedly 6/12 hours? , after Trump's post --the numbers did not add up to me, though.

But, had not found statement or agreement from the president of Iran Masoud Pezeshkian, his latest X post was this, not related any to ceasefire, nor from Supreme Leader of Iran Ali Hosseini Khamenei, his post: "Those who know the Iranian people and their history know that the Iranian nation isn’t a nation that surrenders." post hours before the alleged ceasefire. So, is weird.

And, latest from TasnimNews Telegram Channel --posted at 10:47 pm CST


https://twitter.com/x/status/1937370618766467346

Several flights can confirmed it, and the area within Israel, Syria, Iraq and Iran is pretty much avoided.


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PS: The Flightradar time may not match with the time of this post.
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It’s looking more and more likely that Araghchi is compromised. Like you said, neither the president nor the ayatollah have supported this claim.
 
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