The Real Deal Plague during Trump's term

[candasiri]

Recently, I've been drawn to this remark by Cs they made Session 1 March 2025:

(hlat) Are reports of a new coronavirus, HKU5-CoVs, an attempt to bring back covid lockdowns?

A: They are trying everything but may be trumped by the real deal!

Q: (L) You don't mean that in any kind of pun-ish way, do you?

A: No

Q: (L) In other words, no pun intended.

And this from 30 January 2021:

Q: (Pierre) When we asked months ago about the next big economic crisis, they said that it will start as usual with a manufactured crisis, but it will get out of hand. I was wondering if this pattern will be synchronous with the current sanitary situation? Fake pandemic, fake economic crisis, and then real pandemic and real economic crisis?

A: Sure. That's elementary dear Pierre!

I know that Brandon of "Last Days" on YouTube is jarring on the ears with his Fundamentalism but I do believe that he does have downloads or flashes of probable future events. In recent videos he's talked about a coming plague that will be very serious. One of his visions was of tents set up in parking lots for bodies and of the dying as everyone will not be able to fit in hospitals. He also said that the lockdowns will make Covid "look like child's play." There will be shortages of food. There will be extreme financial issues leading people to get some sort of chip in their hand. He saw a frail Trump sort of powerless against this thing. He saw the figure 350 million dead (worldwide I'm guessing).

I know that knowing events beforehand is usually not possible, but I am wondering if the Cs can give us a few details.

Niall) Yes. We asked about the likelihood of a plague, in the sense of the Black Death. And it was sometime in the mid-teens, they said "in 18 months to two years" or something like that. Well, there has not been a Black Death in that time period.

(L) Right. I don't know! Okay. What's the answer to that?

A: Reality is open and plans change. Sometimes we give answers to prevent calamity. The PTB would not allow such a prediction to manifest as it would draw positive attention to this source and they wish to avoid that at all costs. In the case of the COVID fake pandemic it was already in motion and major plans were in place.

Q: (L) So you're saying that sometimes you tell us some things just to prevent it from happening, because you know they won't let it happen if you say it?

A: Yes

Q: (Andromeda) There have been some things that they've said that have happened in the timeframe too, right?

(L) Yeah, there have been.

My question are:
1. Is this "real deal" plague going to be of 4D manufacture?
2. Is it going to be similar to the black death in that it's hemorrhagic?
3. Is there a population it is going to effect the most besides the sick, obese and old?
4. Is it going to be in the next 2 years or later? (so that we can get ready supplies for family and community)
5. Is there any other remedies that might be helpful to have on hand besides those discussed on the forum?

Thanks. Curious about what everyone's question would be about this potential 4D beast.

 

[FM258]

Read this twice and im confused what you are looking for? Questions for the Cs or us?

It all seems to be open. Any outcome is possible, depending on how the populace reacts.

The old axiom, hope for the best, prepare for the worst, seems to cover it.

 

[candasiri]

Read this twice and im confused what you are looking for? Questions for the Cs or us?

It all seems to be open. Any outcome is possible, depending on how the populace reacts.

The old axiom, hope for the best, prepare for the worst, seems to cover it.

Actually the question would be for the Cs and forum members. I don't think the populace is going to react well on the whole if COVID was a "test run" so to speak. Could the moderators move this to "question for the Cs?" I would rather have some more networking from the forum and perhaps the Cs' layered advice about this scenario as they have hinted that a 4D virus may enter our reality. I don't know about you, but when I read about the dissolution of the dollar and chipping as a means of total control years ago, it shook me to the core. A scenario with a real pandemic leading to economic collapse and violence seems a very probable one. Like how much food do you store? Just a bit? What are people really doing? Has anyone tried their canned meat? Is the water supply going to be effected? Do you have precious metals and will they be able to be used? It feels like it's getting closer as far as a possible future. I guess lately I've been feeling like the "hounds of hell." It's going to take me a bit but I do need to do a deep clean of the basement, install more shelving, get some food, and organize my OK supply of Ivermectin, Liposomal vit C.

Are we going to be wearing masks for years again? How long will lock downs last. I'm just trying to prepare on all levels and now with a toddler. That really put my butt in gear.

 

[mantle]

Drills always go " real ".
Since way back to 9/11. Covid also had its drills.
In my world they are today testing for their new pandemic.
only so that it can be primed
and only then it is ready.
Its name is Pegasus.

 

[FM258]

Actually the question would be for the Cs and forum members. I don't think the populace is going to react well on the whole if COVID was a "test run" so to speak. Could the moderators move this to "question for the Cs?" I would rather have some more networking from the forum and perhaps the Cs' layered advice about this scenario as they have hinted that a 4D virus may enter our reality. I don't know about you, but when I read about the dissolution of the dollar and chipping as a means of total control years ago, it shook me to the core. A scenario with a real pandemic leading to economic collapse and violence seems a very probable one. Like how much food do you store? Just a bit? What are people really doing? Has anyone tried their canned meat? Is the water supply going to be effected? Do you have precious metals and will they be able to be used? It feels like it's getting closer as far as a possible future. I guess lately I've been feeling like the "hounds of hell." It's going to take me a bit but I do need to do a deep clean of the basement, install more shelving, get some food, and organize my OK supply of Ivermectin, Liposomal vit C.

Are we going to be wearing masks for years again? How long will lock downs last. I'm just trying to prepare on all levels and now with a toddler. That really put my butt in gear.

I def hear you loud and clear. My eyes were opened in 2004-2005...I had been gung ho defending Bush from all sides when I happened across a couple of independent documentaries on 9/11. Having lost 3 close friends I was more than angry and bought official story completely.

The day it hit me, my government was controlled by the most evil scumbags imaginable was not a good one. I stayed home from work that day and dove into all the talk going around online. So much so that I became one of the admins on 2 of the biggest truth forums, Loose Change and Pilots4truth. My life as I knew it was over. I didnt know what anxiety was until then. I thought it was something simple, oh your a little nervous, toughen up and get over it. But have new respect for this condition, its no joke. Had a hard time functioning till I was able to get some xanax from a friend.

This anxiety stayed with me off and on till I started to prepare for SHTF or EOTWAWKI. Freeze dried food, cases and cases, water filters, tablets, etc...some PMs...survival gear, knives, ropes, tarps, backpacks, I went through it all. Cant say its totally gone, every so often I feel it coming on I have a way to settle it down and if I dont get it in time I have pills.

My family is totally oblivious to it all. They think im crazy. That is not a good feeling either. When that day comes and they need me, I will be there. Not bitter about it, but its been a difficult 20+ years.

 

[rognaill]

I don't think the populace is going to react well on the whole if COVID was a "test run" so to speak.

I may be mistaken but I thought similar to the Open Border op, The C's gave indication that the Covid lockdowns was pretty much for illegal voting objectives by those panicked about losing power to Trump/Will of the People.

but when I read about the dissolution of the dollar

Perhaps if you replace "dollar" with "Federal Reserve Note" it isn't something to be worried about but maybe something to look forward to?

and chipping as a means of total control years ago

Oh I think we all chipped ourselves and kids / parents many many years ago with adopting smart phones, bio-monitoring watches, etc. In fact these devices are more capable in their ability to surveille and feed to those who wish to manipulate humanity with real-time telemetry of our bodies and mental status than any implanted chip technology.

 

[Evan]

Drills always go " real ".
Since way back to 9/11. Covid also had its drills.
In my world they are today testing for their new pandemic.
only so that it can be primed
and only then it is ready.
Its name is Pegasus.

Exercise Pegasus

 

[candasiri]

I have to ask. I’ve been following this thread since the day it was posted, but I can’t remember if the last bit has been truly discussed. “All warnings have been given. They don’t expire.” That sounds pretty final. Obviously that means no more warnings will be forthcoming? That everything in future sessions will be either historical or in answer to questions about what is happening, I guess. It just feels ominous. Like there’s nothing left to say. I’m just hoping someone can help me understand the implications. I understand what it means literally, and maybe that’s all: “All warnings have been given.” But I always look for layers, so maybe there’s an answer that lies inside putting all of the warnings together or something. I feel like I should be looking for something more. Know what I mean?

I do. All of us who are regular readers and contributors have an idea of the potentials of many types of events, whether it's Mossad/deep state terrorism, solar flares, pandemics, calderas and tsunamis in the Northwest, comets, etc. We know that society is going to fall apart but just not at what rate. I started this thread because I felt this urgency to prepare myself as best as I can spiritually, emotionally and to some extent physically for this scenario of as Pierre put it, "real pandemic, real economic crisis." But it's difficult to know the timing. The Japanese woman who predicted the tsunamis for Japan says 2030 but who knows. My intuition says during the Trump administration but we may be a couple years out. My intuition also tells me that the pandemic will usher in an economic crisis and this is when the controls will really start.

Plus, be useful to others as circumstances dictate. I'm still mulling over the no electricity due to a catastrophic solar flare or CME. I imagine the Amish are going to be in the best position (at least for a while) when the power goes out for either an extended period or all together.

That's all I have for now.

I'm going to look into how the Amish store their food.

Drills always go " real ".
Since way back to 9/11. Covid also had its drills.
In my world they are today testing for their new pandemic.
only so that it can be primed
and only then it is ready.
Its name is Pegasus.

Interesting about the Pegasus. My feeling is the next pandemic is not going to be of 3D manufacture and will, therefore, be much more serious. How are you @mantle preparing on all levels?

Q: (L) "Compels all alike, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to be marked with an inscription on their right hand or on their foreheads...." What is this inscription?

A: Visa ID number.

Q: (L) Is this going to be actually physically put on our bodies?

A: Encoded.

Q: (L) How? Is that what the aliens do when they abduct people?

A: No.

Q: (L) How is it going to be done?

A: Stamped.

Q: (L) By what technical means?

A: Electronic encoding. A series of numbers.

Q: (L) Are they going to put these on our skins or imbed them in the skin on our heads or hand...?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Does that mean that you will have to place your hand on an electronic scanner in order to conduct any type of monetary transaction?

A: Precisely.

Oh I think we all chipped ourselves and kids / parents many many years ago with adopting smart phones, bio-monitoring watches, etc. In fact these devices are more capable in their ability to surveille and feed to those who wish to manipulate humanity with real-time telemetry of our bodies and mental status than any implanted chip technology.

I think the above is true to an extent but I do think that an AI chip in our hands that we cannot avoid is in our future. Imagine having to get the COVID vaccine but it's a microchip.

 

[Tuulikki]

The culmination of decades of planning by the PTB to get to this point. They must be on the verge of clapping their hands in glee. Although there was a lot of pushback and growing awareness in the UK during the pandemic, not enough folk are mentally onboard to make a difference. I don't get the impression many even know of the existence of the WHO Lockdown Treaty and the fact that the UK government have signed it. The dots are very much remaining unconnected here.

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[Ellipse]

My question are:
1. Is this "real deal" plague going to be of 4D manufacture?
2. Is it going to be similar to the black death in that it's hemorrhagic?
3. Is there a population it is going to effect the most besides the sick, obese and old?
4. Is it going to be in the next 2 years or later? (so that we can get ready supplies for family and community)
5. Is there any other remedies that might be helpful to have on hand besides those discussed on the forum?

Thanks. Curious about what everyone's question would be about this potential 4D beast.

Thanks for the reminder of the sessions extracts.

For your questions, I think we can answer mostly to it:
1- 4D STS is always influencing 3D. So the answer is obviously yes, in some sens by a way or another.

2- There was this answer of the C's from January 2024:

Q: (Joe) Are they likely to release another COVID type in terms of its severity and infectiousness, in terms of the kind of people that it has a bad effect on, i.e. not many? Is it likely to be that level of severity, or is it likely that they'll release something that is more severe, more deadly?

A: They are trying to make a rhinovirus lethal and with Ebola-like features for shock value.

I think it would be more worth to ask about an update of what they achieve on this on 2025.

3- The obvious is Yes.

4- I think asking an open question would be better: "Do we have a time frame for the release of their deadly virus?"
And the answer is certainly something like "0 to 5 years". The C's were already talking about a possible release during Paris Olympic games. Perhaps they have more precise infos now but asking is kind of playing dices I guess.

 

[mantle]

I presume that many here have heard of the new wearable nicknamed " the bee ", introduced recently . And it only costs $49.95. My , my , so that no one can claim they can"t afford one .
In our biometric slave states with their already existing humungolous surveillance , [ facial recognition , mobiles, which like autism makes available the carrier to STS accessibility , individual ways of walking , constantly photographed , from where and to where he or she is going and so on and on ] I wonder what this bee will it have to do with their release of the new deadly virus...which I believe is closer than my jugular vein, and I know it will memorise and report your every conversation . That is its job.

 

[mantle]

You ask. How do I prepare ? I know that their divide and rule strategy is their expertise. I know that crime is their daily bread. That revolution against the spiritual love of the eternal Christ has been their obsession since their take over of planet Earth. And that hate against all of mankind is their unyielding conspiratorial plot.
So I guess my answer is with knowledge and awareness and by paying close heed to my weaknesses and by loving all that comes my way and by helping my neighbour when
ever I am asked. You see...fear is contagious , greed is contagious but courage is also.
The beginning of sorrows has only started.

 

[candasiri]

1- 4D STS is always influencing 3D. So the answer is obviously yes, in some sens by a way or another.

My interpretation of the C's reply:
Q: (hlat) Are reports of a new coronavirus, HKU5-CoVs, an attempt to bring back covid lockdowns?

A: They are trying everything but may be trumped by the real deal!
is that they (the 3D elite humans) are really trying to "make a rhinovirus lethal and with Ebola-like features for shock value." but they are not succeeding. There seems to be more potential that a true 4D virus will be moved from 4D to 3D via a comet or some other means.

3- The obvious is Yes.

My intention behind this question is asking about not the population as a whole but specific categories of people or races that may be more effected. For example, the "Spanish Flu" was more deadly to young people. Is there a population or populations that 4D is trying kill off specifically with a virus before the Wave? We know that "souled humans" are a particular threat. Is 4D able to manufacture such a virus and send it to 3D or is their wishful thinking getting in the way?

4- I think asking an open question would be better: "Do we have a time frame for the release of their deadly virus?"
And the answer is certainly something like "0 to 5 years". The C's were already talking about a possible release during Paris Olympic games. Perhaps they have more precise infos now but asking is kind of playing dices I guess.

That would be a good question. I would also ask if the "probabilities have closed" with this potential virus, meaning that it's most likely going to happen or that by asking about now, and having the attention drawn to Laura's work if such a thing is known ahead of time, will it change the outcome?
A: Reality is open and plans change. Sometimes we give answers to prevent calamity. The PTB would not allow such a prediction to manifest as it would draw positive attention to this source and they wish to avoid that at all costs. In the case of the COVID fake pandemic it was already in motion and major plans were in place.

 

[Ellipse]

My interpretation of the C's reply:
Q: (hlat) Are reports of a new coronavirus, HKU5-CoVs, an attempt to bring back covid lockdowns?

A: They are trying everything but may be trumped by the real deal!
is that they (the 3D elite humans) are really trying to "make a rhinovirus lethal and with Ebola-like features for shock value." but they are not succeeding. There seems to be more potential that a true 4D virus will be moved from 4D to 3D via a comet or some other means.

I see what you mean but it's more a gray zone than that. 4D can go into or influence a 3D body to act. So in this case is it coming from 3D or 4D? Perhaps 4D does not succeed due to simply the limitation of the technologie available in 3D, the gap between 4D and 3D. You think of something in 4D but you only have primitives tools to manipulate in 3D to create what you imagined.

Same problem with a comet, you have to have one with the right path and so on. Not as easy.

About a "direct" transfert, 4D tampering directly with 3D to make a virus appearing "from thin air", it's perhaps not easy either, especially if you're STS oriented. I've the sensation, when your are at the 4D level you can eventually play with 1D ouragans and all that, as the C's said, but when it comes to 3D live it's on another level, even in a roundabout way. Mainly 6D reserved field.

So yeah, it would be interesting to know precisely the rules, if we are able to apprehend them and so being able to ask question with less presumptions.

Now, about being "trumped by the real deal", I confess I don't know exactly what the C's mean. Is it an allusion to the harvest? An allusion of the conscientiousness level of the humanity? An allusion to 3D/4D being overwhelmed by what they try to do? I don't know.

 

[axj]

I wonder whether the release of a 4D STS virus would interfere with our free will and give them 'bad juju' (karma). They seem to be aware of that universal law in 4D, while many of their 3D minions seem to be oblivious to it.

It seems that the only way for 4D STS to avoid negative karma in such a case is to basically trick some of their 3D helpers into using their own free will to release it.