Doing this over and over again forever is kinda ass; my humble opinion

[Wandering Star]

If I were a child again now, I could remember most of what I know now as an adult. But when I come back into a new life, I DON'T remember what I previously learned (mostly). So it is a struggle once again. Rinse and repeat until I remember my lessons?

I understood the question in relation to the disbursement of all creation, its reunion and beginning again.

You are talking about third density.

My answer is not about the third density experience.

 

[Wandering Star]

I’m just lying in bed thinking about everything from 1st to 7th density. The cycle and whatnot.

But when I come back into a new life, I DON'T remember what I previously learned (mostly). So it is a struggle once again. Rinse and repeat until I remember my lessons?

Different things.

 

[Renaissance]

I’m not asking for excitement, I’m asking for answers that I won’t ever get as a 3D level consciousness.

So it looks like you are more or less in a bind of your own making. Yeah, it’s true that will not understand these things, but it is a choice to be frustrated about knowing things we can’t know.

 

[Mari]

What’s the point of experiencing consciousness over and over again? Like sure, learning and growing etc, but why so many times? Why endlessly if there is no point to anything. Why is god so bored?

This reminds me of
"Life experiences reflect how one interacts with God."

So you think that god is bored, which reflect your life experiences, as in perhaps your life is boring, and to think you have to repeat it over and over again is boring.

Perhaps if you shift that and think: how would my life experiences enhance the collective oneness and how do I, as a conscious unit, contribute to the overall collection of knowledge and experience?

Perhaps then "your god" wouldn't be boring but excited about yet another fully lived experience on this realm.

 

[Joe]

I just wish connecting with higher consciousness was easier.

I hear ya! But I suppose it will be easier. Kind of like when you were a child learning to walk you may have thought to yourself "I wish connecting to my walking ability was easier!"

The idea of infinity is central it seems. If things can be infinite, then there can always be something new to explore. But by the same token, if we've had infinite time to do that, then all possible things have already been explored, except the idea of infinity suggests otherwise! The fact that we can say "Infinity plus one" suggests that we're missing something important that is, for now, beyond our ability to grasp. Mathematics deals with this by coming up with things like "transfinite numbers" "surreal numbers" and "imaginary numbers". Which suggests that imagination is key to understanding that conundrum, but in a way that is more real than the kind of imagination that we engage in here.

Basically, ponder a bit, run up against those seemingly impossible concepts, have your brain melt a bit. Then get back to "chopping wood and carrying water".

 

[axj]

But by the same token, if we've had infinite time to do that, then all possible things have already been explored, except the idea of infinity suggests otherwise!

Which is bigger: infinity or eternity? Both are theoretically infinite, though the C's hinted that the number of previous Big Bang cycles can be written down, meaning that it is an enormously large but not truly infinite number.

Though there are other possibilities too: that the Big Bang grand cycles had a beginning, but were also preceded by an eternity of other expressions of All That Is.

 

[Joe]

I think it's basically about knowledge and learning. If there are in fact infinite possible worlds then there are infinite possible experiences, and learning never stops, growth never stops. And there is literally no possible way to ever be bored because there is always something new somewhere.

Consider the possibility that, if you want, here in 3D or elsewhere, you can sit alone somewhere and feel as if it is just you, alone in the universe, and have that experience for as long as you want. How long would you last? Doesn't matter, you can have "forever" if you want.

Alternatively, you can open your eyes and mind to an almost infinite number of worlds and experiences, and become aware of and experience that.

Two extremes, and there are all the gradations in between.

 

[Alejo]

What’s the point of experiencing consciousness over and over again? Like sure, learning and growing etc, but why so many times? Why endlessly if there is no point to anything. Why is god so bored?

Maybe God is not bored, maybe god is curious. and maybe over and over again is a linear concept which does sound exhausting and pointless, but I think it's that perspective which makes it seem so.

 

[Jones]

If I were a child again now, I could remember most of what I know now as an adult. But when I come back into a new life, I DON'T remember what I previously learned (mostly). So it is a struggle once again. Rinse and repeat until I remember my lessons?

I was looking for something in the sessions the other day, something along the lines of not remembering past lives, but being born in subsequent lives with certain biases. I couldn't find what I was looking for, so maybe it wasn't in the sessions but perhaps in The Wave or somewhere else on the Cass page.

In any case, the way that I currently think about it is that in each life the level of ignorance decreases and the level of knowledge increases in a way that is laid down at the soul level, hence the biases. The biases could be reflected in things that we would avoid doing or being or things that we aim to do or be. We don't remember details of why or the exact experiences we have had in past lives to develop these characteristics, we just have these inbuilt biases. And we'll take a modified set of or new inbuilt biases from this life into the next.

It may not necessarily be the same lessons over and over again, it could be new lessons with each life or a different facet of the same dynamic or something like that. But ultimately in each life we increase knowledge and being and reduce ignorance and non-being.

 

[Il Matto]

I think it's basically about knowledge and learning. If there are in fact infinite possible worlds then there are infinite possible experiences, and learning never stops, growth never stops. And there is literally no possible way to ever be bored because there is always something new somewhere.

Definitely. The learning experiences may not always 'feel good', but 'good' or 'bad' is a subjective judgement. Boring it certainly ain't.
"Much to learn we still have" (Thank you Yoda)

 

[John G]

Which is bigger: infinity or eternity? Both are theoretically infinite, though the C's hinted that the number of previous Big Bang cycles can be written down, meaning that it is an enormously large but not truly infinite number.

Though there are other possibilities too: that the Big Bang grand cycles had a beginning, but were also preceded by an eternity of other expressions of All That Is.

Eternity is kind of infinity from the viewpoint of time. The Cs hint about the big bangs could be related not to previous cycles but to another hint where they mentioned large explosions seen in space are big bangs for new universes. Thus the very large number could be the number of other universes sprouting off from our universe up until "now" as we measure time.

Joe's mentioning of surreal numbers would handle an infinity of infinity "sizes" but from a physics point of view I can only conceive of two, countable infinity (single universe state) and uncountable infinity (all universe states). Surreal numbers are even built by branching like universe state paths. The idea of coming back as a really nasty 4D STS being eventually again is kind of disturbing but that's kind of the price to pay for being able to again have the fun of childlike contemplating of things like infinity. For that kind of fun, 7th density kind of knows too much.

 

[axj]

The Cs hint about the big bangs could be related not to previous cycles but to another hint where they mentioned large explosions seen in space are big bangs for new universes. Thus the very large number could be the number of other universes sprouting off from our universe up until "now" as we measure time.

Could be. Here is what they said:

August 17, 2003

Q: (A) Was there a big bang?

A: There are many of them!

Q: (Perceval) How many? (Laughter)

A: Got a few years to take down the number?

There was also this:

October 22nd 2022

(Aragorn) I believe you have said that the system of 7 densities, in other words all that is, has existed forever. That would mean that we have done an infinite number of Grand Cycles in the past and will do so also in the future. Is this correct?

A: Yes

 

[Tuulikki]

Perhaps we need to wait until we get to 4D (presuming we do get there) to see how things look and feel from that perspective.

A: It would seem that way if one is transposing 3rd density linear thought from a physicalized standpoint upon that which is infinitely more complex.

"Infinitely more complex" doesn't fit into my brain at the present time.

 

[aragorn]

I'm maybe off with this, but here's what I wrote in that other thread:

So, thinking about this left me with the following answer:

There couldn't possibly be a specific purpose for the existence of the Grand System, since "purpose" implies that there would be a goal/aim to be attained, to reach a state or characteristic that doesn't yet exist. Since the Grand System has existed forever and includes absloutely everything, which implies that it can't expand or evolve in any way, there can't be any final aim/goal that could be pursued. Moreover, there can't be any final cause/goal for human existence either; human's (or rather, souls) have been doing Grand Cycles forever, which means that there isn't any level of evolving/ devolving or flourishing (see, Aristotle) that the souls have not yet experienced. The lack of a specific Final Ultimate Purpose doesn't mean that there can't be smaller 'mini purposes' inside the system – the 'mini purposes' just keep the system up and going, like an engine.

Maybe the asnwer could be summarized as: It's the only show in town!

It's also interesting what Aristotle had to say about infinity:

Aristotle, as we shall see in the next chapter, did not deny the infinity of time. On the contrary, he affirmed the eternity of the world—that it has no beginning or end. But an infinite time does not exist at any one moment. Like the infinite series of whole numbers, it is only a potential, not an actual, infinite. So, too, the infinity of division is a potential, not an actual, infinite. Just as you can go on adding number after number without end, so you can go on dividing anything that is continuous without end. The number of fractions between the whole numbers two and three is infinite, just as the number of whole numbers is infinite. Both infinities, however, are potential, not actual. They do not actually exist at any moment of time.
At this or any other moment, Aristotle maintained, there cannot be an actual infinity of coexisting things, as there would be if the atomists were correct in their view. They held, it must be remembered, that at this very moment an actually infinite number of atoms coexist. It is that and that alone which Aristotle denied. His reasoning on this score ran as follows. Either the number of actually coexisting things is definite or indefinite. If it is infinite, it is indefinite. But nothing can be both actual and indefinite. Therefore, there cannot be an actual infinity of any sort—an actually infinite number of coexisting atoms, an actually infinite world, an actually infinite space that is filled with actually existing units of matter. The only infinities that there can be, according to Aristotle, are the potential infinities that are involved in the endless processes of addition or division. Since one moment of time succeeds another or precedes another, and since two moments of time do not actually coexist, time can be infinite.

Adler, Mortimer Jerome . Aristotle for Everybody (pp. 173-174). (Function). Kindle Edition.

 

[SOTTREADER]

Ah, this came up on my feed