Group Helplessness and Rage

purplehaze

Jedi Master
by Ernest S. Wolf, MD
Chicago, IL


This paper originally was delivered at the International Self-Psychology Symposium in Dreieich, Germany, May, 2001. It is published here for the first time.

Note post-September 11 addendum.

Our topic for tonight, the problem of group violence, is one of the most important issues facing society. Not only is this a most crucial topic for our American society but we are confronted with events that are occurring all over the globe, on all continents and in all countries. While it is obvious that the daily news pin-point the current hottest areas of conflict, such as the Middle East, the Balkans, and certain regions of Africa, there seems to be no spot on this earth that is safe from unreasoning violence. Individuals as well as groups are in danger of being destroyed. How are we to understand these phenomena?

I will attempt to bring two psychoanalytic perspectives to bear on these questions.

A classic Freudian view derives the anger that is being expressed in hostile actions to an instinctual drive of aggression which is more or less modified by the ego. In addition to this basically bio-psychological basis, Sigmund Freud also recognized some strictly psychological factors such as the common desire to turn a passive experience into an active one and thereby assert some control over one’s life and self. Freud also assigned a pivotal role to an innate self-destructive death instinct which, however, has not generally been accepted by psychoanalysts. Along similar lines, Anna Freud stressed the mechanism of identification with the aggressor as a very common dynamism. As a consequence, children treated sadistically by their parents tend to act out sadistically by identification with those parents when they reach adulthood. Melanie Klein and her followers do attribute a dominant and primarily destructive quality to an aggressive drive and its elaboration in object relations.

The other, mainly non-biological and more psychological approach to aggressive behavior is associated with Heinz Kohut as he developed it into a psychology of the self.

Talking about rageful behavior he observed that underlying the rage one often finds an uncompromising insistence on the perfection of the idealized other. The infant experiences itself still in a state of limitlessness power and knowledge, a state that we as outsiders deprecatingly call the child’s grandiosity, its grandiose self. If for a variety of reasons this infantile grandiose state of narcissism is prevented from maturing into healthy self-esteem we meet with what looks like an adult but really is a very shakily put together oversensitive and shame-prone narcissist. The fanaticism of the need for revenge and the unending compulsion of having to square the account after an offense are therefore not the attributes of an aggressivity that is integrated with the mature purposes of the ego - on the contrary, such bedevilment indicates that the aggression was mobilized in the service of an archaic grandiose self and that it is deployed within the framework of an archaic perception of reality. The shame-prone individual who is ready to experience setbacks as narcissistic injuries and to respond to them with insatiable rage does not recognize his opponent as a center of independent initiative with whom he happens to be at cross-purposes. Aggression, when employed in the pursuit of maturely experienced causes, are not limitless. However vigorously this aggression is mobilized, is aim is limited and definite: the defeat of the enemy who blocks the way to a cherished goal. As soon as the aim is reached, the rage is gone.

The narcissistically injured on the other hand, cannot rest until he has blotted out a vaguely experienced offender who dared to oppose him, to disagree with him, or to outshine him. ..It can never find rest because it can never wipe out the evidence that has contradicted its conviction it is unique and perfect. This archaic rage goes on and on and on. Furthermore, the enemy who calls forth the archaic rage of the narcissistically vulnerable is seen by him not as an autonomous source of impulsions, but as a flaw in a narcissistically perceived reality. The enemy is experienced as a recalcitrant part of an expanded self over which the narcissistically vulnerable person had expected to exercise full control. The mere fact, in other words, that the other person is independent or different is experienced as offensive by those with intense narcissistic needs.

Thus, not being in full control over self and over a narcissistically experienced world gives the afflicted individual an experience of utter powerlessness. Such powerlessness and the sense of helplessness via-a-vis the world are unbearably traumatic experiences that must be ended by any means whatsoever. The offending other must be wiped out.

Narcissistic rage occurs in many forms. They all share, however, a specific psychological flavor which gives them a distinct position within the wide realm of human aggressions. The need for revenge, for righting a wrong, for undoing a hurt by whatever means, and a deeply anchored, unrelenting compulsion in the pursuit of all these aims, which gives no rest to those who have suffered a narcissistic injury -these are the characteristic features of narcissistic rage in all its forms and which set it apart from other kinds of aggression.

Although everybody tends to react to narcissistic injuries with embarrassment and anger, the most intense experiences of shame and the most violent forms of narcissistic rage arise in those individuals for whom a sense of absolute control over an archaic environment is indispensable because the maintenance of self-esteem - and indeed of the self - depends on the unconditional availability of the approving-mirroring selfobject or of the merger-permitting idealized one." (Search for the Self, vol.2, pp.643 etc.)

Every individual self needs to possess and exercise a certain amount of power to guarantee the maintenance of its cohesion and boundaries, even its continuation as a separate and distinct self. The loss of power which usually is associated with being subjected to some sort of feeling helpless is for most human beings an unbearable experience. It evokes an overwhelming desire to wipe out the offending source of the threatened helplessness. This narcissistic rage is an unlimited deadly destructive rage that is not appeased even by the defeat and disappearance of the evoking threat. In contrast to angry hostility caused by frustration of a self’s ordinary aims, a hostility that diminishes as the frustration diminishes and as the desired aims finally are achieved, narcissistic rage goes on and on and on with hardly a let up in its destructiveness even when no further threat to the self remains.

The political arena allows many individuals to act out narcissistic rage as members of a group. We can understand this better when we remember that individuals who experience themselves as powerless often identify with groups by joining them. Groups that appear to have some power become seductively attractive to the narcissistic individual who is trying to escape the feeling of powerlessness. They experience the group power as their own power and any threat to the group power is experienced as an unbearable threat to their own self which then evokes unlimited rage in defense of self. Common are the hatreds that groups carry for other groups whom, rightly or wrongly, they perceive as threats to their very existence. They kill and destroy without mercy while at the same time enjoying a feeling of righteous triumph over a threatening enemy. Think of the racial assaults and the ethnic hatreds that have resulted in so much cruelty and bloodshed during the 20th century. The most minor infractions of the order established by one group could lead to an extremist massacre of even totally uninvolved and innocent outsiders. A lynching could be precipitated by as little as an assertive look or word that was equated with a threat to the established authority of the group or its leaders. The lynching mob was partially driven by an inner experience of rage in defense of a disorganized and therefore vulnerable self that felt itself challenged into potential fragmentation by the supposed offender.

What I have just described so dramatically often manifests as a less extreme form of narcissistic rage. The same dynamics, however, can be observed commonly almost every day in much more subtle and less dramatic forms. Many political leaders are intuitively aware of the narcissistic vulnerability of large numbers of voters. For example, currently in Britain, both major political parties, Labour and Conservative, are competing in attempting to toughen rules and regulations that would make it more difficult for asylum seekers to find refuge in the U.K. Many in the electorate would like to ban all asylum seekers because the vulnerability of their individual selfs is such that they feel powerless and severely threatened by these alien intruders who they imagine will take their jobs, their women, their homes, etc. This threat, of course, has little basis in reality and is a fantasy rooted in the weakness of their selfs and then projected on the outsider. Similar dynamic conditions in Germany during the economic depression of the 1930’s on top of a lost World War I provided an environment that was conducive to feeling helpless and their sense of importance and rightness threatened. In that state of weakened self one might easily experience an enhancement and strengthening of that self by putting on a uniform and, via marching with martial music under the leadership of a charismatically eloquent Führer, banish the experience of powerlessness. The whole Nazi movement can be seen as the narcissistic rage reaction of a whole people to their loss of national self-esteem.

Perhaps the hottest spots of narcissistic rage these weeks are in the Middle East. Both peoples, the Palestinians and the Israelis, feel relatively powerless and helpless vis-à-vis the other side, whether the threat takes the form of a terrorist bomb or of an F-16 fighter plane. Both sides seem to have adopted the view that through increasing violence they can destroy the other’s will and power to fight while gaining some sense of power themselves. Of course, as anyone can see, that does not work. On the contrary, the increasing violence only increases the experience of helplessness with an increase in narcissistic rage on both sides. Neither side feels understood by the other, both sides feel that to the other side their experiences are invisible and inaudible.

What can be done? Our psychological reasoning would lead us to believe that in order to reduce the rage one must try to reduce the experience of helplessness and substitute gradually an experience of having some power. The first step would seem to be an effort to really listen to each other and try to understand the other’s experience. To really feel one is being seen, being listened to most often leads to feeling understood. The experience of being understood is a self-empowering experience. We know that from working with individuals who, when they feel understood in treatment, they immediately grow stronger. But it seems that very few negotiators know this fundamental psychological truth. They usually go into negotiations with the agenda of showing how right they are and how wrong the other side is. They demand to be heard but don’t want to really listen and understand.

Politics is the arena in which skilful negotiation is the hallmark of success. Politics is concerned with the art and science of governing while the psychology of the self is concerned with recognizing and understanding one’s own sense of self and that of others. Governing, of course, has to do with the exercise of power by individuals and by groups. one’s experience of self (my shorthand for sense of self) may sometimes be enhanced via political action or circumstance, and, on the other hand, indeed, sometimes such political events may impair one’s sense of self. It is an interactive relationship of reciprocating influences such that human action to augment the self may on the surface appear merely to be directed toward changing a political situation. It seems obvious that the ability to govern depends on the availability and exercise of power. Less obvious is an individual self’s need to possess and exercise a certain amount of power to guarantee the maintenance of its cohesion and boundaries, even its continuation as a separate and distinct self. As already discussed, the loss of power which usually is associated with being subjected to some sort of feeling helpless is for most human beings an unbearable experience. It evokes an overwhelming desire to wipe out the offending source of the threatened helplessness.

With my emphasis on power and self-esteem it might seem that I view politics as merely an exercise in gradations of narcissistic rage. Let me correct that impression by adding that many other self motivations and their associated defenses can find expression on the stage of politics. Humans are born with biologically inescapable needs for oxygen, water, nutrition, and exercise. A certain level of stimulation is needed for the development of the Nervous System and the brain functions via creating order out of apparent chaos and assigning meaning to events. Thus the infant emerges with certain needs for not only physiological provisions but also for certain psychological experiences. The most important of these are necessary for a self to emerge and be maintained. We have labeled this needed input as coming from selfobjects (i.e., objects that are required for the constitution of the self) and we have classified selfobject experiences, such as mirroring, idealizing, alter-ego, adversarial, efficacy and vitalizing selfobject experiences. Thus the inborn need to constitute a self is expressed in needs to be connected, affirmed, admired and noticed as well as in needs to look up to certain others, to become aware of others like oneself, to have ally-antagonists to rub up against, to be able to make a dent on the world, and to find a certain empathic resonance in selected others, especially the parents. All these are life-long needs and they often find expression in the political arena. The need to be noticed and affirmed may lead to self-assertion in the artistic world but similarly also in the game of politics. What great satisfaction in seeing my photo on hundreds of posters and getting thousands of votes (mirroring selfobject experiences). My self doubts may diminish by getting to know others like me who seem fully accepted by most everybody (alter-ego selfobject experiences). I may also defend against feelings of unworthiness by an excessive self-assertion that reassures the solidity of my boundaries by confrontations (adversarial self-object experiences). Sharing the heroes of our common culture and religion (idealizing selfobject experiences) contributes to my feeling of well-being. And seeing myself as actually influencing and changing the world (efficacy selfobject experiences) strengthens my self organization. It is not difficult to see all these motivations expressed in political thinking and action. Narcissism in both the good and the bad meanings of this word and the defenses that early experiences make us erect against these inner strivings remain, nevertheless, the pivot for most of our feeling, thinking and action throughout life.

Addendum - November 4, 2001

This essay on Group Helplessness and Rage was written before the events of September 11. The focus is primarily on an individual’s narcissistic rage and some of the internal developmental factors that go into making individuals or groups more sensitive and more vulnerable to the experience of narcissistic injury that precipitate narcissistic rage. I now see that this approach may easily be misunderstood by not having stressed enough the great importance of the precipitating external event and its provocative effect on the vulnerable individual. Both internal and external dynamisms are important.

Not all individuals react the same even to experiences of powerlessness, and neither do all nations react the same to humiliating experiences that they are helplessly enduring. The variety of responses is testimony to the variety of defensive dynamics that individuals and nations have learned to build up in order to protect themselves. Thus there exist all kinds of forms for the expression of narcissistic rage running the gamut from barely noticed subtlety to dramatic extreme. The precipitating trauma may be the decisive factor in the choice of form that the rage is experienced, expresses itself and is acted out. Similarly, the defensive modification of the rage may also be influenced by the external circumstances. But none of these considerations cancel the basic dynamic observation that the experience of utter helplessness becomes associated with the experience of narcissistic rage.”

http://www.selfpsychology.com/papers/wolf_2001b_group_helplessness_and_rage.htm
 
Ernest Wolf said:
Talking about rageful behavior he observed that underlying the rage one often finds an uncompromising insistence on the perfection of the idealized other. The infant experiences itself still in a state of limitlessness power and knowledge, a state that we as outsiders deprecatingly call the child’s grandiosity, its grandiose self. If for a variety of reasons this infantile grandiose state of narcissism is prevented from maturing into healthy self-esteem we meet with what looks like an adult but really is a very shakily put together oversensitive and shame-prone narcissist.
This is the point at which I think a whole lot of the experts fall down on the job. If the infant experiences itself in a state of limitless power and knowledge, a state called "grandiosity", how does it translate into an adult that is "shakily put together", oversensitive and shame-prone? What I have seen is that the adult narcissist is exactly like that baby: he or she experiences him or herself in a state of limitless power and knowledge and there's nothing shaky about it. It is unshakable. There is no "oversensitive" nor is there any "shame-proneness." There IS anger at any "object out there" that does not "get with the program" and attribute to the narcissist those limitless powers and knowledge.

But that's just my observation of a number of such types. I think that calling their reactions "over-sensitive" or "shame-proneness" is projection on the part of the therapists. Here's another:

Ernest Wolf said:
Thus, not being in full control over self and over a narcissistically experienced world gives the afflicted individual an experience of utter powerlessness. Such powerlessness and the sense of helplessness via-a-vis the world are unbearably traumatic experiences that must be ended by any means whatsoever. The offending other must be wiped out.
I don't think they feel "utter powerlessness" or helplessness, nor are they traumatized. That's what a "normal person" who had been "narcissistically injured might feel, but not a real Narcissist as in NPD, (possibly on the spectrum of psychopathy).

Here's how I explain it:

The psychopath (and true narcissist) is an individual who divides the world into black and white, good and evil, and this division is very rigid in a particular way. That is, the psychopathic reality is organized around a very simple structure: "feels good, is good / feels bad, is bad." But, just because this structure is rigid, that doesn't mean it is rational or stable! Things are good or bad, but what is good or bad depends on the immediate circumstances, i.e. what the psychopath wants at the moment.

But this is not a "defense mechanism," it is just simply that, for the psychopath, the locus of reality is centered in what "feels good" with no reference to any other human being at all except as objects that can serve this need. You might almost say that the psychological structure of the psychopath is equivalent to a newborn infant, and it never develops, never grows up.

An infant has no internal self other than being at the center of a bundle of neurological inputs and outputs that seek pleasure and reject discomfort. Of course, with a grown up psychopath, there are highly developed neurological circuits that have developed in the process of learning what works to get his needs and demands met. But that internal core of being nothing but a bundle of neurological inputs and outputs is static - it never changes. In other words, there is no core self, just a sort of black hole that wants/needs to suck everything into it.

Under the influence of this internal structure, the psychopath is not able to appreciate the wants or needs of other human beings, the subtle shades of a situation or to tolerate ambiguity. The entire external reality is filtered through - made to conform to - this rigid and primitive internal structure.

When the psychopath is frustrated, i.e. doesn't get what they want, what they seem to feel is that everything in the world "out there" is against them and they are, good, long-suffering and only seeking the ideal of love, peace, safety, beauty, warmth and comfort. That is, when a psychopath is confronted with something displeasing or threatening, that object (person, idea, group, whatever), is placed in the "all bad" category because, of course, if the psychopath does not like it, it cannot be good! There is never even an instant when the psychopath feels "traumatized" or "shamed" or "helpless." The grandiosity is ever present.

Now, here's the kicker: when the evidence mounts that some choice or act of the psychopath created a problem or made a situation worse, this, too, must be denied as part of the self and projected as coming from "out there."

That is, anything that is defined as "bad" is projected onto someone or something else because the internal structure of the psychopath will admit to no wrong, nothing bad, no errors. And keep in mind that this is not because they choose to do that, it is because they cannot do otherwise. That is the way they are made. They are like a cat that enjoys torturing a mouse before eating it. That's just what they do.

Psychopaths are masters of Projective Identification. That is, they project onto and into others everything that is bad (remembering that "bad" changes according to what the psychopath wants), and seek in manipulative ways to induce in that other person what is being projected, and seek to control the other person who is perceived as manifesting those "bad" characteristics. In this way, the psychopath gains enjoyment and feels "in control."

Keep in mind that what the psychopath considers to be good has nothing to do with truth, honor, decency, consideration for others, or any other thing than what the psychopath wants at any given moment. In this way, any violation of the rights of others, any foul, evil deed, can be perpetrated by a psychopath and he will still sleep like a baby (literally) at night because he has done nothing wrong!
 
I would have to agree. Shame has absolutely nothing to do with it. It seems that these 'experts' consider the fact that if they personally exhibited the behavior of a narcissist that they would be ashamed and might overcompensate to hide that shame - thus their projection. Projection = this must be how the narcissist feels as well.

That 'sticking point'; the fact that normal humans tend to assume everyone who looks human is, and thus will react like they do or is motivated how they are - this is THE block that consistently warps understanding. If only they could accept that pathological individuals are fundamentally different and that interpreting their behavior through a normal person's lens ensures a lack of clarity.

What a mess.
 
It's still an interesting article. Lobaczewski talks about people who are maladjusted in society as being vulnerable to "narcissistic rage" so to say.

Lobaczewski said:
If various circumstances combine, including a given society’s deficient psychological world-view, in order to force a particular individual to exercise functions which do not make full use of his talents, said person’s professional practice would be no better, and often even worse, than that of a worker with satisfactory talents; he would feel cheated and inundated by duties which prevent him from achieving self-realization. His thoughts would often wander from his duties into a world of fantasy, or into matters which are of greater interest to him; in his daydream world, he is what he should and deserves to be. Such a person always realizes it if his social and professional adjustment has taken place in a downward direction; at the same time, however, he fails to develop a healthy critical faculty concerning the upper limits of his own talents. His daydreams allow him to “fix” an unfair world, “all you need is power”. Revolutionary and radical ideas find fertile soil among people in downward social adaptations.

Some people, on the other hand, achieve important posts because they belong to privileged social groups or organizations which have gained power; their talents and skills are therefore not sufficient for their duties, especially the more difficult problems. Such persons then avoid the problematic and dedicate themselves to minor matters quite ostentatiously. A component of histrionics appears progressively in their conduct. Tests indicate that their correctness of reasoning deteriorates after only a few years’ worth of such activities. In order to maintain their position, they direct their attacks against anyone with greater talent or skill, removing him from the appropriate posts and playing an active role in degrading their social and professional adjustment, which of course engenders a feeling of injustice. Upwardly-adjusted people thus favor whip-cracking governments which would protect their positions.

Upward and downward social adjustments, as well the qualitatively improper ones, result in a waste of any society’s basic capital, namely the talent pool of its members. This simultaneously leads to increasing dissatisfaction and tensions among individuals and social groups; any attempt to approach human talent and its productivity problematics as a purely private matter must therefore be considered dangerously naive. Development or involution in all areas of cultural, economic and political life depend on the extent to which this talent pool is properly utilized. In the final analysis, it also determines whether there will be evolution or revolution. [...]

In any society in this world, psychopathic individuals and some of the other deviants create a ponerogenically active network of common collusions, partially estranged from the community of normal people. Some inspirational role of the essential psychopathy in this network also appears to be a common phenomenon. They are aware of being different as they obtain their life-experience and become familiar with different ways of fighting for their goals. Their world is forever divided into “us and them”; their little world with its own laws and customs and that other foreign world full of presumptuous ideas and customs in light of which they are condemned morally. Their sense of honor bids them to cheat and revile that other human world and its values. In contradiction to the customs of normal people, they feel non-fulfillment of their promises or signatures is customary behavior. They also learn how their personalities can have traumatizing effects on the personalities of those normal people, and how to take advantage of this root of terror for purposes of reaching their goals. This dichotomy of worlds is permanent and does not disappear even if they succeed in realizing their youthful dream of gaining power over the society of normal people. This proves that the separation is biologically conditioned.

In such people a dream emerges like some youthful Utopia of a “happy” world and a social system which would not reject them or force them to submit to laws and customs whose meaning is incomprehensible to them. They dream of a world in which their simple and radical way of experiencing and perceiving reality would dominate, where they would of course be assured safety and prosperity. Those “others”, different, but also more technically skillful, should be put to work to achieve this goal. “We”, after all, will create a new government, one of justice. They are prepared to fight and to suffer for the sake of such a brave new world, and also, of course, to inflict suffering upon others. Such vision justifies killing people, whose suffering does not move them to compassion because “they” are not quite conspecific. They do not realize that they will consequently meet with opposition which can last for generations.

Subordinating a normal person to psychologically abnormal individuals has a deforming effect on his personality: it engenders trauma and neurosis. This is accomplished in a manner which generally evades sufficient conscious controls. Such a situation then deprives the person of his natural rights: to practice his own mental hygiene, develop a sufficiently autonomous personality, and utilize his common sense. In the light of natural law, it thus constitutes a kind of illegality--which can appear in any social scale--although it is not mentioned in any code of law.

We have already discussed the nature of some pathological personalities, e.g. frontal characteropathy. Essential psychopathy has exceptionally intense effects in this manner.

Something mysterious gnaws into the personality of an individual at the mercy of such a person and is then fought like a demon. His emotions become chilled, his sense of psychological reality is stifled. This leads to de-criterialization of thought and a feeling of helplessness, culminating in depressive reactions which can be so severe that psychiatrists sometimes misdiagnose them as a manic-depressive psychosis. Many people evidently also rebel much earlier and start searching for some way of liberating themselves from such an influence.

Many other life-situations involve less mysterious results of many other psychological anomalies upon normal people (which are always unpleasant and destructive) and their carriers’ unscrupulous drive to dominate and take advantage of others. Governed by unpleasant experiences and feelings, as well as natural egoism, societies thus have good reason to reject such people, helping to push them into marginal positions in social life, including poverty and criminality.

It is unfortunately almost the rule that such behavior is amenable to moralizing justification in our natural world-view categories. Most members of society feel entitled to protect their own persons and property and enact legislation for that purpose. Being based on natural perception of phenomena, and on emotional motivations instead of an objective understanding of the problems, such laws are in no position to safeguard the kind of order and safety we would like; those others perceive them as a force which needs to be battled.

Such a social structure dominated by normal people and their conceptual world easily appears a “system of force and oppression” to individuals with various psychological deviations. Psychopaths reach such a conclusion as a rule.

If a good deal of injustice does in fact exist in a given society, pathological feelings of unfairness and suggestive statements can resonate among those who have truly been treated unfairly. Revolutionary doctrines may then find approval among both groups, although their motivations will actually be quite different.
ADDED I've put the article on sott with a long commentary here:
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/153983-Group-Helplessness-and-Rage
 
We tend to agree with Laura here. Wolf - while making great points - gives the Narc far too much credit.

However, we post this part of the article FREQUENTLY to our victims who can't grasp WHY the exposed Narc/Sociopath goes on an endless attack.

The narcissistically injured on the other hand, cannot rest until he has blotted out a vaguely experienced offender who dared to oppose him, to disagree with him, or to outshine him. ..It can never find rest because it can never wipe out the evidence that has contradicted its conviction it is unique and perfect. This archaic rage goes on and on and on.

Furthermore, the enemy who calls forth the archaic rage of the narcissistically vulnerable is seen by him not as an autonomous source of impulsions, but as a flaw in a narcissistically perceived reality. The enemy is experienced as a recalcitrant part of an expanded self over which the narcissistically vulnerable person had expected to exercise full control. The mere fact, in other words, that the other person is independent or different is experienced as offensive by those with intense narcissistic needs.
And the rage NEVER ends no matter what you do. You must just continue to be unswayed by it and do your best to treat it for what it is - a TEMPER TANTRUM

Such powerlessness and the sense of helplessness via-a-vis the world are unbearably traumatic experiences that must be ended by any means whatsoever. The offending other must be wiped out.
 
The narcissistically injured on the other hand, cannot rest until he has blotted out a vaguely experienced offender who dared to oppose him, to disagree with him, or to outshine him. ..It can never find rest because it can never wipe out the evidence that has contradicted its conviction it is unique and perfect. This archaic rage goes on and on and on.
purplehaze said:
And the rage NEVER ends no matter what you do. You must just continue to be unswayed by it and do your best to treat it for what it is - a TEMPER TANTRUM.
Thank God for this forum, and what it has taught me about psychopaths....

We are currently dealing with a psychopathic neighbour. About a year ago he obtained a rottweiler, and then immediately began to neglect and abuse the animal. We thought long and hard about what to do about the situation, because we knew there would be no end of repercussions if we interfered. However, we could not stand by and let the situation continue. Long story short: After trying to reason with him (ha!) we got the local police and SPCA involved, and after a long struggle succeeded in having the animal removed, with the proviso that he cannot own another.

So, of course, now we have the rage, in the form of endless harassment. He spends night and day looking for reasons to call the police to our house (e.g. recently one of our dogs ventured two feet onto his property), or the fire department (e.g. whenever we have a fire in our little backyard firebowl, he calls them to report an "illegal bonfire"). I was talking about the situation to another neighbour yesterday, who exclaimed "How can you stand it? You seem so calm and cool about it, I'd so upset and furious". To which I replied: "Why get upset over a three-year old having a temper tantrum?

And so it goes....
 
purplehaze said:
by Ernest S. Wolf, MD
Chicago, IL
...The narcissistically injured on the other hand, cannot rest until he has blotted out a vaguely experienced offender who dared to oppose him, to disagree with him, or to outshine him. ..It can never find rest because it can never wipe out the evidence that has contradicted its conviction it is unique and perfect. This archaic rage goes on and on and on.
Some of this seems to describe the industry known as right wing talk radio.
I listen to many of these "shows" and it's a non-stop 24 hour 7 day a week festival of demonizing anything that interferes with the official version of reality, as put forth by the seemingly endless number of right wing radio hosts.
I twirl the channel knob and just about every other station on the AM band is a right wing talking head. You can often hear the same host on three different stations at the same time.
I tend to think of them as rodeo clowns, bent on distracting and diverting attention from anything not in line with the "talking points" of the day.
The talking points are reinforced by expert guests from right wing think tanks that validate whatever the host is preaching.
A sample listing of these hosts includes Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, Laura Ingraham, Michael Medved, and Fox News in general.
Rush Limbaugh annouced his Operation Chaos, which is bent on destroying the Democratic party, but he'll attack anything that moves if it works to further the ambitions of the machine he seems to serve.
There is no shame involved in what they do because they know more about reality than anyone else.
According to them, that's a given and not even open to debate.
It's an incredibly suffocating atmosphere to listen to these shows for more than 10 minutes at a time.
I think Laura is right on target, it's very primal and rigid.
It's pretty much a brute force system where the biggest, smelliest ape wins.
It certainly does go on and on and on, and since this is an election year, it's only going to get worse with each passing week.
As long as people want to be indoctrinated by a "big daddy", I guess that's the way things are going to be.
 
Get a Cease & Desist Order - if you search the web you can find places to write one up yourself. Mail it to "Mr. Personality" registered and BE SURE THE POLICE get a registered copy (so they have to sign for it)

Every time he calls - merely pull out the C&D and show them he's a nuisance.

It won't stop him but it will rain on his parade big time.

I know because I have done it.



PepperFritz said:
So, of course, now we have the rage, in the form of endless harassment. He spends night and day looking for reasons to call the police to our house (e.g. recently one of our dogs ventured two feet onto his property), or the fire department (e.g. whenever we have a fire in our little backyard firebowl, he calls them to report an "illegal bonfire"). I was talking about the situation to another neighbour yesterday, who exclaimed "How can you stand it? You seem so calm and cool about it, I'd so upset and furious". To which I replied: "Why get upset over a three-year old having a temper tantrum? And so it goes....
They want upset & furious. You are so right PepperFritz. Do NOT give them what they want.
 
Heh - one of our cyberpaths (http://cyberpathlinks.blogspot.com/2007/06/j-aka-gridney-aka-yidwithlid-aka-sammy.html) is a right-wing righter! Surprise surprise..... (NOT)

Right Wing Media is a Ponerized system for sure. Like all psychopaths (the one's we expose included) they feel if they say the same thing OVER & OVER & OVER & OVER - it will become reality.

"See in my line of work you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in, to kind of catapult the propaganda." - George W. Bush
BK said:
It's an incredibly suffocating atmosphere to listen to these shows for more than 10 minutes at a time.
I think Laura is right on target, it's very primal and rigid. It's pretty much a brute force system where the biggest, smelliest ape wins. It certainly does go on and on and on, and since this is an election year, it's only going to get worse with each passing week. As long as people want to be indoctrinated by a "big daddy", I guess that's the way things are going to be.
BK it's only going to get worse. And the love to call the Dems "leftards" or harp on ONE incorrect thing. The latest, IOHO is the 'McCain is too old' - all the RightWing Punditry is angry about the comment. Frankly, McCain is not TOO old - he's simply NOT LUCID
 
purplehaze said:
Get a Cease & Desist Order - if you search the web you can find places to write one up yourself. Mail it to "Mr. Personality" registered and BE SURE THE POLICE get a registered copy (so they have to sign for it). Every time he calls - merely pull out the C&D and show them he's a nuisance. It won't stop him but it will rain on his parade big time.
In my experience, in the case of your average run-of-the-mill neighbourhood psychopath, if you consistently refuse to feed him (i.e. provide ANY kind of response/reaction whatsoever), he eventually grows bored and/or finds a new target. Also, the cops and fire department in my small town already know he's a nuisance, and don't take him seriously.

But I'll keep your advice about a cease-and-desist order in mind for the future, should such a step become necessary.
 
Please do PepperFritz. Some of our victims have the experience of these pathologicals coming back YEARS later to beat them up (figuratively speaking) VB being a good example for this board.
 
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