article: Vladimir Putin's mastery checkmates the West

Isabel

The Force is Strong With This One
Hi, this article is ascribed to The New YorkTimes. However, the link is to here:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article4525885.ece

The NYT might feel a little upset about this. ;)
 
I haven't been watching the mainstream news lately. I read this article and was surprised (and pleased) that Russia's action was being perceived as a 'checkmate'. I did read about the interview that went bad on Fox news and the interview on Larry King, but what I missed appears to be the impact to the mind of the mainstream public. Does a large percentage of the American population realize the 'checkmate' scenario in any way similar to the quote below or in any other significant way?





Quote found at:http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article4525885.ece

It's checkmate because Putin has shown how the West, especially the USA, has lost its moral authority, since they can't complain about violation of national sovereignity and "humanitarian war", after they have attacked three sovereign nations in just 4 years (Serbia, Afghanistan, Iraq).

Giovanni@, Vercelli, Italy
 
The latest St. Petersburg Panel discussion has just been finished.


https://youtu.be/p3OYwtFlD9Q

Right from the start Putin had something quite interesting to say about Trumps withdraw from Paris Climate Agreement. Putin shoots from the hip and says in english "Don't worry, be happy" and before that asks why it is so cold in russia and snowed, essentially questioning that warming idea:

This portion starts here:
https://youtu.be/p3OYwtFlD9Q?t=1h22m35s

Here is it in a short low resolution video:


https://youtu.be/HMHK8Z7hxB4

And Putin saying "Don't worry, be happy" embedded in the original song:


https://youtu.be/5QFw57GEiHE


I'm waiting for the official transcript to be finished here, so we know exactly what he said there.


A couple of months ago, he had this to say about global warming:

Pashalis said:
Today Putin attended the "Internationale Arktis-Forum" in Archangelsk and made a couple of interesting statements about "global warming".

It starts at minute 57:01

https://youtu.be/78IFWiA9rtI?t=57m1s


https://youtu.be/78IFWiA9rtI

Paraphasing here:

Basically he says that he will say something that is probably unpopular, namely that the warming already started at a point where it could hardly be blamed on humans, and that he believes the people who think that it is probably related more to global cycles or greater cosmic cycles. Further he basically says it is about "how we can adjust us to those cycles" and that we need more research on that and how people and local communities get adjusted and accustomed to the new things. And at the end he says "So probably those people who are not in agreement with the opponents, may not be at all silly" and that we should be able to listen to one another and find solutions.

Then at 01:03:39 Putin mentions that the datas on the ground show clearly that what is happening now in regards to carbohydrate concentrations, was happening thousand and even millions years ago, at a time when there were no humans. And finally he says "be aware that the eruption of several Vulcanos would be greater then man made impact on the environment, so we need to study these things".

My guess is that Putin and co. know much more about it, then they can admit at this point.
 
Shortly listened to other portions of the Q&A Session and it looks like Putin had a field day. Very blunt and a lot of humor against this propaganda nonsense, this moderator brought up.
Though, the simultan translation doesn't deliver the whole extent/meaning of Putins statements that well.
 
Commenting on US President Donald Trump's decision on the US' exit from the Paris climate accord, Russian President Vladimir Putin said that now Russia knows whom to blame for the June snow in Moscow.

Putin Jokes Trump to Blame for June Snow in Moscow Amid US Exit From Paris Deal
https://sputniknews.com/russia/201706021054257917-putin-jokes-trump-paris-deal-moscow-snow/

Putin joked that despite the fact that Russia "doesn't feel" the effect of global warming as it has been snowing in Moscow today and raining in St. Petersburg, the Paris climate accord is a "good deal."

He continued the joke by saying that Russia should be thankful to Trump as now he could be blamed even for bad weather in Moscow.

"We should be grateful to President Trump. I know that it has been snowing in Moscow; it's raining here [in Saint Petersburg], it's very cold. Now we can put everything off on him [Trump] and the American imperialism. But we won't do that," Putin joked during a session of the St. Petersburg International Economic Forum (SPIEF).

Putin warned against making a fuss over the US exit from the Paris deal and urged to establish conditions for joint work. He added that the agreement comes into force in 2021, adding that there's still time.

"Don't worry, be happy," he concluded.

Trump cited potential risks to the US economy posed by emission targets, which were accepted by former President Barack Obama in Paris, as the primary reason for pulling out of the accord. He has been widely criticized for the move.

SPIEF, a major global platform for communication between business representatives and discussion of crucial economic issues, kicked off in Russia’s St. Petersburg on Thursday and will continue through Saturday. Sputnik News Agency is the official media partner of the forum.


The St. Petersburg International Economic Forums (SPIEF) have long become a place where attending politicians and businessmen famously show their sense of humor cracking jokes and coining catch phrases that quickly go viral on the internet.

Top 5 Jokes Putin Made During SPIEF-2017 That You May Have Missed
https://sputniknews.com/politics/201706031054279825-putin-spief-jokes/

This year’s SPIEF was no exception, with President Vladimir Putin drawing laughs when, attending the forum’s plenary session on Friday, he jokingly told the participants who stood up to greet him, to stand at ease and relax.

When opening Friday’s plenary session, its moderator, NBC anchor Megyn Kelly, asked Putin how come a mere one percent of Russians own over 70 percent of the country’s wealth.

Despite the fact that Kelly drew no comparisons with the situation with social inequality in the US, where Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders spoke over and over again about one percent of Americans owning 90 percent of America’s national wealth.

"It is not moral, it is not acceptable, and it is not sustainable that the top one-tenth of 1 percent now owns almost as much wealth as the bottom 90 percent," he said at the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia July 25.

Putin still told her that the Russian government was working on this and was prepared to offer more social benefits to those in need. He joked that if Megyn Kelly and her three children lived in Russia she would be eligible for maternity capital.

Maternity (family) capital is a method of state support to Russian families to which a second or a third child or more was born or adopted in the period from 2007 till 2016. Since January 1, 2015, the allowance amounts to 453,000 rubles (just over $8,000).

Bad weather? It’s Trump’s fault

When asked about the US withdrawal from the Paris Agreement on climate change, Putin forced another chuckle from the crowd when he complained that European leaders do not regard him as one of their own.

“In any case, they don’t think so,” Putin said, responding to Kelly’s words about the European leaders’ quick response to President Donald Trump’s decision to walk away from the Paris deal.

Putin joked that Russia should be thankful to Trump as now he could be blamed even for bad weather in Moscow.

We should be grateful to President Trump. I know that it has been snowing in Moscow; it's raining here [in St. Petersburg], it's very cold. Now we can put everything off on him [Trump] and the American imperialism. But we won't do that," Putin added.

​Just stop it!

Putin’s tone changed when Megyn Kelly started asking questions about Russia’s alleged meddling in the US presidential election.

He said the suspicions about the Democratic Party’s “manipulations” during last year’s US election were well grounded and that the resignation of Hillary Clinton’s campaign manager only proved it.

“Is this misinformation? This information is true, no matter where it came from. They should have apologized to the people before stepping down and promise that such mistakes would never happen again. <…> It was not Russians who pushed for one Democratic candidate at the expense of the other. It was not us, it was them who did this. Just stop it,” Putin emphasized.

As Megyn Kelly kept asking questions about Russia’s alleged role, Putin invited everyone to learn a lesson or two from US journalists.

“Here is Megyn who is a shining example of what high-class journalism is all about,” he quipped.

The tension mounted further after Kelly noted that she thought that Trump said that Russia could have conducted cyberattacks on his opponents, but that he didn’t think it would do it again.

She thinks [so]. Listen, these are very serious matters of global politics we are talking about <…> It’s not just about taking an interview or penning a story for some newspaper,” Putin added.

I thought the guy was going too far”

Vladimir Putin complained that blaming Russians for the Democratic Party’s failure during the US presidential election was tantamount to the anti-Semitic idea of “blaming the Jews.”

“It is always easier to say that it is not your fault. That it is the Russians who meddled in our election, and we’re the good guys. This reminds me of anti-Semitism: the Jews are to blame for everything, you know? An idiot cannot do anything himself, so the Jews are to blame. But we know what such attitudes lead to. They end with nothing good.”

Putin believes that Donald Trump was elected simply because his team was better prepared and worked more efficiently during the campaign period and that Russia had nothing to do with that.

“Sometimes I thought that the guy [Trump] was going too far. I was wrong. He turned out to be right because he found a way to reach out to the social groups he counted on and they came forward and voted him in. And the opposite team lost out, but they refuse to admit this mistake, that they simply failed to do it right,” Putin said.

He urged the US media to stop interfering in Russia’s domestic affairs.

“Just look at what your colleagues are doing here. They are all over us and doing what they want, enjoying themselves. <…> This is a systematic and unceremonious meddling in our domestic affairs. This has to stop.” Putin emphasized.

"Don't worry, be happy"

Putin joked that despite the fact that Russia "doesn't feel" the effect of global warming as it has been snowing in Moscow today and raining in St. Petersburg, the Paris climate accord is a "good deal."

He continued the joke by saying that Russia should be thankful to Trump as now he could be blamed even for bad weather in Moscow.

He said that Russia has yet to ratify the agreement, adding that Moscow is waiting for the rules on resource allocation to be formed as part of the deal.

Putin warned against making a fuss over the US exit from the Paris deal and urged to establish conditions for joint work. He added that the agreement comes into force in 2021, adding that there's still time.

"Don't worry, be happy," he concluded.

“An American woman sits and commands all”

Putin was equally ironic in his response to Megyn Kelly’s clumsy attempt to gauge Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s opinion about Russia’s possible state-level interference in other countries’ affairs.

“You are talking about America, Germany, Russia, Trump, Hillary Clinton and Chancellor Merkel, but I don’t think that the situation calls for the presence of a judge or a lawyer like myself,” Modi replied.

“The Indians are smart people. Ancient philosophy. So different from us, simple folks, who always say just what we think,” Putin noted.

Ending the plenary session with another joke, Putin noted that Kelly was proof that the multipolar world had not materialized.

“We are sitting here discussing many problems. A representative of India, one of the world’s biggest countries, and of Russia, which also matters somewhat. [We have] representatives of the EU and of Moldova, a small post-Soviet country, which means that all regions are present here,” Putin said.

Mr. Dodon said that the world has stopped being unipolar. But an American woman sits and commands all and I’m the last to get the floor,” Putin smiled thanking moderator Megyn Kelly for her good job.
 
Pashalis said:
I'm waiting for the official transcript to be finished here, so we know exactly what he said there.

It is finished now and here is the official translation of what he said there:

Vladimir Putin: I do not belong to the category of European leaders, at any rate they do not think I do (laughter, applause), but of course we, I mean Russia, have our own viewpoint. Have you read the Paris Agreement? No, you have not, as I can see.

In general, the Paris Agreement is a good, logical document aimed at resolving one of today’s global problems – preventing climate change. The question is whether we are in a position to avert climate change. What does it do? The goal is to prevent a two-degree rise in temperature.

So far, we do not get the sense here that the temperature is going up rapidly. Actually, we should be grateful to President Trump. I heard it was actually snowing in Moscow today, while here it is raining and quite chilly. Now we can blame everything on him and US imperialism, and say it is all their fault. But we will not.

[...]

Incidentally, this agreement has not even entered into force yet. It should come into force in 2021, so we still have time. If we work constructively, we will still be able to agree on something. Don’t worry, be happy! [last four words said in English]

And here the correct translation as a video:


https://youtu.be/EUTsf8o21CE
 
Jun 4, 2017

https://youtu.be/LyNmaC88Kr0?ecver=1

Putin Hints JFK Was Murdered By The "Deep State" Which Is Now After Trump And Russia
Tyler Durden's pictureby Tyler Durden
Jun 4, 2017 9:40 PM
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-04/putin-hints-jfk-was-murdered-deep-state-which-now-after-trump-and-russia
 
c.a. said:
Jun 4, 2017

https://youtu.be/LyNmaC88Kr0?ecver=1

Putin Hints JFK Was Murdered By The "Deep State" Which Is Now After Trump And Russia
Tyler Durden's pictureby Tyler Durden
Jun 4, 2017 9:40 PM
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-04/putin-hints-jfk-was-murdered-deep-state-which-now-after-trump-and-russia

Thanks for bringing it up! What a propaganda mouthpiece this Megyn Kelly is...

Here is the full thing published by NBC obviously with a lot of holes in the interview. Wonder why that is:


https://youtu.be/x8AeBAV4EIY
 
Pashalis said:
Thanks for bringing it up! What a propaganda mouthpiece this Megyn Kelly is...
Here is the full thing published by NBC obviously with a lot of holes in the interview. Wonder why that is:

https://youtu.be/x8AeBAV4EIY

She's the clown princess of ignorance, and deception. Putin was very, very, patience with her agenda. Sad, that her handlers will twist the truth and spin some sort of BS. :rolleyes:

And your welcome Sir.
 
Pashalis said:
Thanks for bringing it up! What a propaganda mouthpiece this Megyn Kelly is...

Here is the full thing published by NBC obviously with a lot of holes in the interview. Wonder why that is:


https://youtu.be/x8AeBAV4EIY

Thanks for sharing. It's interesting how the top comments below the video are all pro-Putin, and this on a MSM video.

What happened to all those social media agents paid for by the media and the intelligence?

At least it's good to see that most people are seeing through the nonsense being spewed by Megyn Kelly.
 
Eboard10 said:
Pashalis said:
Thanks for bringing it up! What a propaganda mouthpiece this Megyn Kelly is...

Here is the full thing published by NBC obviously with a lot of holes in the interview. Wonder why that is:


https://youtu.be/x8AeBAV4EIY

Thanks for sharing. It's interesting how the top comments below the video are all pro-Putin, and this on a MSM video.

What happened to all those social media agents paid for by the media and the intelligence?

At least it's good to see that most people are seeing through the nonsense being spewed by Megyn Kelly.

Yeah, it's definitely good to see so many commenters calling this heavily edited fake news out for what it is.
 
How can this woman sleep at night? She keeps repeating the same old lies and propaganda. It's sickening.
 
Redrock12 said:
How can this woman sleep at night? She keeps repeating the same old lies and propaganda. It's sickening.

It was difficult to watch her without cringing! Putin's looks during her questioning were priceless, however! I wonder how he managed to keep a straight face at times.

Glad to know that more people are seeing through this nonsense - that is somewhat heartening.
 
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