2020 US Election - Let The Games Begin!

SummerLite

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I don't know really, but I find it strange is that Powell and team refuse to give at least some evidence that can't be dismissed so easily.
Hi luc

There are people here that don't live in the US and aren't following whats happened closely it looks like. The talk of there not being provable evidence is absurd. There are hundreds of eye witnesses, filmed perpetrators, computer documentation, on and on. The evidence is Overwhelming! It was all laid out well in the Press conference with Giuliani and Powell which was on Fox. These reports of fraud have been rolling in for weeks now and peoples lives are being threatened. It's not even questionable. Powell did offer Tucker evidence and his behavior has shown his true colors. The media is pushing the falsehood there is no evidence and he went along with that. I'm sure Tucker is aware of all thats come out. They all know. I'm finished with the guy.

In Trumps EO, foreign interference in elections is a priority, so them pushing this is understandable. Hopefully this adds to understanding.
 

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It's still possible though that Powell and team will eventually release the kraken and expose the Deep State fraud machine for all to see.

For all the reasons you gave (and more) the whole deal looks a bit unhinged at this point, not least Powell's particular way of speaking to the media. But yeah, let's wait and see.
 

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There dropping like flys.

Nov 21, 2020

By Mark Megahan - September 21, 2020
A frequent flier on Jeffrey Epstein’s Lolita Express departed the planet this week by taking an unscheduled flight from the roof of his apartment building. In another one of those spooky coincidences that seem to follow Bill and Hillary Clinton around, Steve Bing’s death has been ruled a suicide, even though there wasn’t a note. The internet is buzzing with conspiracy. It’s funny how it happened just as the net was closing in around Ghislaine Maxwell, and the same day a federal judge ordered all of Virginia Giuffre’s evidence against Maxwell to be destroyed.

Part of the ‘Lolita express circle’

It was never any secret that Hollywood producer Steve Bing was “part of Jeffrey Epstein’s ‘Lolita express’ circle.” He also allegedly liked to join Bill Clinton and food supply tycoon Ron Burkle on Burkle’s jet, nicknamed “Air f*ck One.” The multi-millionaire was so “depressed about the lack of human contact during the [Covid-19] quarantine,” that he hurled himself off the 27th floor of his building, the official report states. He was pronounced dead at the scene.

The 55-year-old was much more of a playboy than a producer. At the age of 18, he inherited $600 million from his grandfather but he blazed through it on parties and girls. As soon as he got the money, he “dropped out of Stanford University in his junior year to pursue a career in Hollywood.” The Lolita chase was on.

While bringing the world such smash films as “Get Carter” and “Kangaroo Jack,” Bing “was very successful at womanizing with girlfriends such as Naomi Campbell, Uma Thurman, Sharon Stone, Farrah Fawcett and a variety of Playboy playmates,” Conservative Firing Line relates. He rubbed elbows and everything else with all the lovely Lolita types who hung around with his buddies. Friends like, “Hugh Hefner, Mick Jagger, Warren Beaty, James Caan, Prince Andrew, Jeffrey Epstein, and Bill Clinton.” Ghislaine Maxwell was always there too.

heavy contributor to the Clintons

Not only is Bing a big donor to the Democratic Party, he donated more to the Clinton Foundation than they got from Frank Giustra. That’s significant because Giustra gives them a cut of his Uranium One proceeds. Bing was third on the list of big donors, behind only AUSAID and the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation. He also liked to participate in the Lolita Express excursions. As more and more of the dots are being connected, it looks like Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein were running a blackmail operation targeting world leaders. Funny how Epstein had a convenient suicide too. In front of broken cameras and sleeping guards.

Bill Clinton was heartbroken when he heard the news. It makes people wonder what went on while Bill was wearing that infamous blue dress memorialized in oil on canvas and hanging on the wall in Jeffrey Epstein’s New York mansion. Who knows what went on when the Lolita Express landed in the Virgin Islands. “I loved Steve Bing very much,” Clinton sadly tweeted, “He had a big heart, and he was willing to do anything he could for the people and causes he believed in. I will miss him and his enthusiasm more than I can say, and I hope he’s finally found peace.” He was willing to do anything alright. Everyone is wondering what other big things Bill misses about Bing using with such enthusiasm.
lolita

It’s not clear if Bing left a will to dispose of his estate but if not, his two children are expected to split whatever is left. He fathered a son with Elizabeth Hurley and a daughter with tennis player Lisa Bonder. When not occupied with sex slaves on the Lolita express, he prowled around Hollywood with married women. He’s been paying child support after “paternity tests proved that Bing was the biological father of Hurley’s son Damian and Bonder’s daughter Kira Kerkorian, but neither grew up in his home.”


Nov 20, 2020 11:58am PT
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The sight of President Trump’s personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani, throwing off conspiracy theories and hair dye yesterday in TV’s once-humdrum daytime hours, would not too long ago have proven to be catnip that no TV-news outlet could resist. Yesterday, many of them did.

Few if any of the nation’s TV-news outlets aired live Thursday’s press conference from the legal team spearheading the president’s efforts to overturn the election. And Fox News, which did, followed it up with reporting from Kristin Fisher, a White House correspondent, who noted: “Well, that was certainly a colorful news conference from Rudy Giuliani, but it was light on facts. So much of what he said was simply not true or has already been thrown out in court.” Later that evening, primetime host Tucker Carlson told viewers he had invited Sidney Powell, another Trump attorney to appear, but noted “she never sent us any evidence.

TV news has thrived in the Trump era, thanks to the president’s norm-busting demeanor and viewers intense need for information on the harsh effects of the coronavirus pandemic. Fox News, MSNBC and CNN have seen ratings soar. Regular anchors have become household names, winning book deals, podcasts and frothy profiles in Elle, Vogue and the New York Times. Walt Disney even — for a time — restored ABC’s venerable “Nightline” to its original 11:30 spot, delaying the broadcast of Jimmy Kimmel’s late-night program. Now, as the Biden presidency looms, many of the TV outlets are starting to be less deferential to the White House.

President Trump was held to account by Savannah Guthrie in an NBC News town hall leading up to the election. On Election Night, “CBS Evening News” anchor Norah O’Donnell cautioned viewers in the wee hours of the morning that President Trump was likely to make some remarks about the outcome of the election that had yet to be verified. ““We at CBS News are not projecting in this presidential race. We will not disenfranchise the millions of voters in those battleground states and the hundreds of thousands in Georgia who also have not had their votes counted,” she said. Three different NBCUniversal anchors — NBC News’ Guthrie, MSNBC’s Brian Williams and CNBC’s Shepard Smith — broke into Trump’s news conference to tell viewers they were hearing false information. Fox News Channel’s Neil Cavuto on November 9th cut into a press conference at the White House after White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany made unsubstantiated claims that Trump opponents were “welcoming fraud and welcoming illegal voting.”

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Heather

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Well, she's doing it with Trump's blessing. He has today tweeted out this report by OAN:


So this is strategy, not just Powell 'filling in the blanks'. Note that Santos in the above interview immediately likens the US election to "the recent one in Bolivia." What actually happened there is that false allegations of fraud were raised by the OAS, casting doubt on the result, and clearing a path for the coup d'etat against Evo Morales.

So they're really going with the narrative that the election was stolen and that 'winning it back' is synonymous with 'saving the USA from [Latin-American] socialism'.

Ironically, that the US election was so thoroughly and flagrantly rigged means it's the US that is now the biggest/worst 'banana republic' in the hemisphere! It would be so lucky to have the electoral integrity of its southern neighbors.



Spending around voting time is a parallel universe away from suggesting that the man only held power thanks to something comparable to what just took place in the USA. It's 'not even wrong'!



That's another shaky claim (specifically, that 'our forces' raided SCYTL offices in Germany). She's likely just repeating what Texas Rep. Louie Gohmert said he 'heard from a friend' last week. Heck, maybe such things are going on behind the scenes, but I'm with Carlson on this: 'cite your evidence or get outta here!'
Well, the problem with Tucker Carlson isn't just his Sidney Powell bashing (the Venezuela connection aside, when you hear her version of what happened with Carlson, you wonder why he wouldn't have interviewed the "numbers" person she offered who could speak in copious detail to Dominion's ballot switching and deleting capabilities, as well as how such "glitches" were specifically traced), it's also the fact that Carlson has entirely resisted, and then dragged his feet on reporting on the entire topic of this massive voter fraud in all its aspects.

As I pointed out previously, one of the first times he dealt "seriously" with the issue at all, he actually uses as one of three pitiful examples: ONE DEAD PERSON IN FLORIDA VOTING. ONE DEAD PERSON. I'll always remember that bit, because I'd been waiting for weeks with bated breath for his finally getting around to some serious coverage of what was emerging all over the place concerning this massive, multi-tiered voter fraud. So, for him to finally present us with "one dead person voting in Florida" was like being slapped in the face, and told to go to your room without any supper. It's no wonder why people are leaving Fox in droves. What he did was pathetic -- even dissociatively pathological.

Oh, and when he does get around to Sidney Powell -- but only because so many others have gotten there before him -- according to her he is "very insulting, demanding and rude," ignores what she has to offer, and then makes sure to trash her on his show. Why not instead incorporate the interview with the tech expert within a larger framework of serious, in depth reportage on this issue?

I had also mentioned earlier that when Tucker finally showed footage of Giuliani during his first press conference, he didn't allow his viewers to hear ANY of what the prosecutor was actually saying, nor did he paraphrase any of it either. The question is, WHY did he cover up this press conference? The answer is actually quite simple: it's because, unlike the one dead person voting in Florida routine, Giuliani was presenting the legal case for HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of illegal votes, and those are the kinds of election fraud numbers that are verboten on Fox -- or at least on their highest ranking news show (which of course airs on prime time). In other words, it's not just Tucker's demanding from Powell the type of evidence that he knows she is not going to disclose before going to court (as many knowledgeable lawyers have been saying on this specific topic*), it's that his hostile and dismissive attitude towards her supports the increasingly popular conclusion that Carlson is merely following the political line at Fox, which is to support Biden's win, and, in so doing, have his show rewarded with "expanded" coverage capability (with, one assumes, a nice pay raise in the package for himself).

* As to Powell's inability or reticence to disclose more details of the cases she is mounting, it also seems likely that the Trump team is deliberately keeping things especially close to the vest given the extraordinarily dangerous "enemy" apparatus they are confronting (including the threats being made to the lives of his lawyers and their children). In another context, Tucker might be sensitive to such nefarious goings on, and the obvious need for a defensive strategy -- but NOT if he's part of the controlled opposition. For, it's in THAT context that he's now the "big shot" playing hard ball, just as Powell is claiming. It's really quite a disgusting spectacle.

As for Powell, and the issue of foreign interference, particularly involving Venezuela, with the egregious history of U.S. foreign policy in South America, I think to bring this up at all is a huge mistake. But, as far as Tucker Carlson's poor treatment of Powell goes, that had more to do with Fox's decision to suppress even the possibility of systemic, algorithmic election fraud involving the "switching" of hundreds of thousands of votes from Trump to Biden, and the deletion of millions more. (Venezuela really has nothing to do with that.) But that's why Tucker is not going to lay out any coverage that speaks to the "real" numbers involved in Election Fraud 2020: it's part of the deal he made at Fox. It's also why the "one dead person voting in Florida" bit was, to me, the second serious nail in Tucker Carlson's lack of credibility coffin (the first being his virtual silence on the issue up to that point).

Still, just as Laura Ingraham on her Fox show The Angle seemed to change her tune on this topic, one can't help hoping that Tucker Carlson -- and his producers, presumably -- will start to question their approach seeing how it's not going over so well with certain viewers. I'm not holding my breath, but we'll see. Actually, I never watched the Friday show, which I have recorded... but since no one is commenting on that particular show, I'm pretty certain he didn't address the election fraud issue, or Powell's Friday morning response to his bashing her the previous night.
 
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Heather

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On the Powell - Tucker dispute, I think that Dinesh D'Souza has very good points below. He's basically saying, that if there were real investigative journalism in the US, as there should be (but there isn't), they'd have plenty of things to look into and provide clarity about, and for that they wouldn't need anything from Powell and her legal team:

1) Isn't it true that these Democratic run cities have a long history of election fraud? Apparently very true, but no journalists are producing anything on this

2) Is it true that the election results are being processed and counted in foreign countries? This could be investigated by journalists.

3) Can the voting machines in fact be manipulated? Can they in fact flip votes? Leaving aside if they did it in this election, is it possible for them to do it? Journalists could try to answer that question.

4) What is the cumulative value and weight of the hundreds of affidavits that have been gathered so far? Journalists could try to answer that question.

5) Who are the whistleblowers that have come forward, what do they have to say? Journalists could try to find out.

Yes, this is what I've been pointing to myself. Why isn't Carlson doing his job as a real news reporter? It makes his whole argument against Powell rather moot.
 

Ursus Minor

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Well we really don’t know what happened to Carlson. Who knows what he has been threatened with. Knowing the power of the PTB , anything could have happened including mind control.

Indeed. Carlson has a wife and four children...

Tucker Carlson: After Violent Leftists Harassed My Family Out Of Our Home, The NYT Is Going To Reveal Our New Location

Tucker recalled previous harassment he received after his home address made it into the public eye, detailing how his wife and two children were threatened by "screaming Antifa lunatics," which prompted him and his family to move.

"But The New York Times followed us," Carlson said during the show. "Their story about where we live is slated to run in the paper this week. Editors there know exactly what will happen to my family when it does run."

During Monday's show, Carlson listed the individuals involved with the alleged story by name.
 

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Wow! Two minutes of audio from Lin Wood.
"This country’s going to be shocked when it learns about who’s been occupying the oval office for some periods of years. They’re going to be shocked at the level of pedophilia. They're going to be shocked at what I believe is going to be a revelation in terms of people who are actually engaged in satanic worship."
 
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Wow! Two minutes of audio from Lin Wood.

Looks like they've activated full Q mode. :lol: Would be wonderful if true, but I'm skeptical any of this will come to pass. Just as with a lot of the stuff Powell is saying, it just sounds too good to be true - justice is never served so justly. But I'm open to being pleasantly surprised while enjoying the show.
 
My wishful thinking side really likes the street justice idea of the elite getting what they deserve, and NOW. I also know that reality hasn’t worked that way in the past. The difference now is that the deep state is exposing themselves more by the day and they might actually get what they deserve. The C’s have even said that they will expose themselves and they are desperate. I don’t believe they have said that we won’t get justice. But as it stands this hope still resides in the “wishful thinking” category.
 

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DoD did carry out a raid on Scytl servers in Frankfurt, Germany, gaining possession of irrefutable proof of treasonous vote rigging by the CIA.
The following information from WikiLeaks may be worth remembering. Part of the Vault 7 release in 2017, concerning CIA capabilities.

U.S. Consulate in Frankfurt is a covert CIA hacker base

In addition to its operations in Langley, Virginia the CIA also uses the U.S. consulate in Frankfurt as a covert base for its hackers covering Europe, the Middle East and Africa.

CIA hackers operating out of the Frankfurt consulate ( "Center for Cyber Intelligence Europe" or CCIE) are given diplomatic ("black") passports and State Department cover. [...] Once in Frankfurt CIA hackers can travel without further border checks to the 25 European countries that are part of the Schengen open border area — including France, Italy and Switzerland.

A number of the CIA's electronic attack methods are designed for physical proximity. These attack methods are able to penetrate high security networks that are disconnected from the internet, such as police record database.
 

JEEP

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Wow! Two minutes of audio from Lin Wood.
Keeping in mind that it is important for us to pay attention right and left, I'm more and more in the "where's the beef" and "show me the money" camp -- IOW, actions speak louder than words. How many times have we been told that the ax is going to fall any minute, any minute now . . . and nothing! I'll save my excitement and hurrahs for when something actually does happen and not just teasers like the "Kraken has been released"! Who wants to eat stale popcorn anyway.
 

aragorn

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Looks like they've activated full Q mode. :lol: Would be wonderful if true, but I'm skeptical any of this will come to pass. Just as with a lot of the stuff Powell is saying, it just sounds too good to be true - justice is never served so justly. But I'm open to being pleasantly surprised while enjoying the show.
Yeah, and I hate to say it but I just can't fathom how any serious and professional lawyer would say something like that publicly. Even knowing that the pedophile and satanic thing is probably true, at least to some degree and concerning some of the players, wouldn't you set yourself up to not being taken seriously if you just throw out in the open things like this?

One possibility, of course, is that these individuals are shenanigans and infiltrators, your classic agent provocateurs who's mission is to tarnish the whole movement and ultimately make it implode.
 

Nucifera

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Keeping in mind that it is important for us to pay attention right and left, I'm more and more in the "where's the beef" and "show me the money" camp -- IOW, actions speak louder than words. How many times have we been told that the ax is going to fall any minute, any minute now . . . and nothing! I'll save my excitement and hurrahs for when something actually does happen and not just teasers like the "Kraken has been released"! Who wants to eat stale popcorn anyway.
That's why I've taken a step back from the topic, though I'm keeping an eye on things. The whole election saga, followed by staying up to the minute on a process that will unfold in days and weeks, with no control of the outcome, and getting too invested in outcomes I want, threatened to take over. [Oh yeah, riots, lock-downs, and vaccines too.] Stuff is going to happen, so maybe I need to focus a little more on my under-developed equanimity.
 

aragorn

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If you want to hear a more balanced and level headed take on the situation, here's a recent interview Devin Nunes. One of the things he stresses is that right now the most important thing is to fix the communication – to provide channels of information that are not censored. He mentions e.g. Rumble and Parler as good 'replacements'. Another thing that caught my attention in this interview was how he describes the Democrats' recent behavior. He says that "they are not acting as confident as someone who has just won the election" and "they are putting on a facade" [paraphrasing].

 
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