2020 US Election - Let The Games Begin!

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If this rigging is allowed to pass, I think it will spell the end of American democracy in the minds of MOST of the American people, and with it the elite's ability to rule and control a majority of the people, at least in way they have been doing so until now.
In a roundabout way, the above seems like a positive. Living in a very “liberal” state many people here refuse to see that there was any rigging at all. Their whole focus was to get Trump out of office, regardless of who replaced him.

...I don't think they are willing to let that facade drop, and as they become increasingly aware of the extent of the suspicion around this election result, enough of a consensus will form to make it possible to use constitutional means to overturn the result on or after Jan. 6th, and of course, not without a lot of furor.
It amazes me that whenever I think the façade is dropping, the rush of people that are devoted to hanging that curtain back up! Should be an interesting few weeks.

I know I could end up with egg on my face with this 'prediction', but I figured I'd risk it anyway.

Hey, as long as they’re sunny side up I’m right there with you!
 
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Is Trump about to cross the Rubicon? Is he getting the troops ready? Not sure he will take immediately action, but after 6 Jan all bets may be off.

Well, there's this: Pentagon Abruptly Halts Biden Transition Briefings, Leaving Officials "Stunned" | ZeroHedge . Just offhand, I'd imagine that the US military noted that Biden sold out to the Chinese a while ago, but was scheduled to be briefed on deepest US defense secrets, and suddenly got very uncomfortable with the situation.
 
I agree with Joe's prediction, that Trump will pull it out somehow, but it will require some pretty impressive wrangling. The prevailing interpretation of the Electoral Count Act is that the governor's certificate will override any objections to electoral college votes in the event of a split congressional challenge. Now if Trump was able to present evidence that would sway a handful of moderate Democrats in the House, Biden wouldn't have a leg to stand on, but that's not very likely. The twist is that the Electoral Count Act was cobbled together to prevent a repeat of the hung election of 1876 and has never been been invoked in a "live" situation, therefore the law has no precedent and the prevailing interpretation is not a slam-dunk. It sounds like we again end up at the Supreme Court to offer a ruling to define what the law actually means. If Roberts decides to throw his hands up again and hide under intangible technicalities, we end up with a situation where the House and the Senate are locked into an endless game of ring-around-the-rosie chasing each other around. Faced with the prospect of quasi-anarchy at the Federal level, the states may just decide that it's time to move on from this issue in avoidance of a constitutional crisis and in the interests of national security, and hold a contingent election which would at least have some constitutional and legal validity to settle the dispute. The end result of that is the media has a collective freakout and Trump is left standing after the dust settles, grinning ear to ear.

Trump is then legally the President, even if under some duress, and that gives him a certain degree of respect in the eyes of people who believe in the rule of law. I think the PTB need to maintain some semblance of rule of law or everything degenerates into the law of the jungle, possibly even between the PTB themselves. If Trump holds onto the presidency via martial law alone, it is much more difficult, although not impossible, for him to maintain the appearance that he is the legitimate President and not just some opportunistic tyrant. At that point, Trump would be appealing to moral or divine laws which many philosophers have opined about, on which Western legal thought is supposedly based, and which transcend human laws. Such esoteric laws which may unconsciously come into play is the Law of Three; i.e. martial law is generally an evil institution, but the specific circumstances in which it is declared determine whether it is evil or good. His loyalist "true believers" will not care either way, but I think providing a hard legal basis for what he will have to do later is more likely to sway most Americans who are more reserved, or on the fence but maybe leaning Trump, rather than philosophical considerations. Election fraud, while highly likely, has never been presented in a court where it can be definitively proven, although maybe the verdict has already been issued in the court of public opinion.

I still think we get martial law even if Trump pulls out a win, the Cassiopaeans predicted it, and the radical leftist color revolutionaries have been waiting in the wings for a while now; they aren't just going away. As to whether it was part of some plan; it is obvious that the establishment really wants Biden, but the upper echelons had concerns as to whether he was really viable and wargamed out some additional scenarios. The elite really want to get rid of the Constitution and make the law whatever they say it is. Biden would have been the perfect sock puppet, but would have to institute the state of martial law through more or less constitutional means and political persuasion. Trump can suspend the Constitution with the stroke of a pen and accomplish the elite's dreams more easily, however Trump is not one of them and will have to be manipulated and harassed and dragged kicking and screaming. This whole situation that Trump is walking into may be part of "a plan," but will it go the way they think it will? If the elite is smart, they will use one of their super secret spy satellites to assassinate Trump shortly after he has declared martial law and established the precedent that the Constitution no longer matters, then they can install Pence as some kind of High Priest over an end times pseudo-theocracy. Factions C and A would have to tolerate the ascendancy of Faction B for awhile, but the agenda to enslave humanity would continue to move forward.
Well, there's this: Pentagon Abruptly Halts Biden Transition Briefings, Leaving Officials "Stunned" | ZeroHedge . Just offhand, I'd imagine that the US military noted that Biden sold out to the Chinese a while ago, but was scheduled to be briefed on deepest US defense secrets, and suddenly got very uncomfortable with the situation.
Wasn't Trump due to get some kind of military report today regarding foreign interference in the election, which presumably allowed Biden to steal it? I wonder if some of the loyalists he installed in the Pentagon nailed him on that, even though some of the charges are likely a stretch. Tune into tomorrow for the next episode of America: Endgame...
 
Just a thought... what if some people more seated in the 'reality-based' community would try to establish some dialog with liberal and even deep state 'blue check' influencers on social media? Provide logical soft rebuttals to canned propaganda and COINTELPRO 'thought viruses' with some valid facts, (use non-partisan sources or even sources like CNN, when possible). This would have to be done with great care, foresight, and an eye toward external consideration.

There are a lot of left and right echo chambers right now. Sure, reasoning with a bot, either software or bio-based may be pointless. But what about the followers and commenters who may honestly be seeking answers?

Tao Te Ching - Lao Tzu - chapter 27

A good walker leaves no tracks;
A good speaker makes no slips;
A good reckoner needs no tally.
A good door need no lock,
Yet no one can open it.
Good binding requires no knots, Yet no one can loosen it.

Therefore the sage takes care of all men
And abandons no one.
He takes care of all things
And abandons nothing.

This is called "following the light."

What is a good man?
A teacher of a bad man.
What is a bad man?
A good man's charge.
If the teacher is not respected,
And the pupil not cared for,
Confusion will arise, however clever one is.
This is the crux of mystery.
 
I’m enjoying Tim Pools commentary on the election. He is an independent journalist and is across many sources, so a great way to keep up to date and be entertained. He has high energy and is fun to listen too.
His latest broadcast he is saying look at these crazy times, pandemic, election in dispute, meteor showers, planetary alignments. Concluding that something is going g to happen but who knows what, this is the most significant time in US history.
Pod casts available and on YouTube.
Timcast
 
Not sure if I mentioned this here, but I definitely talked about it with Niall. Seems plausible that the reason the SCOTUS rejected the case was because none of them wanted to be the judges who overturned the election for Trump.

Any idea who that guy is?

Apologize. This is the fella.

Matt Patrick of Dallas, a Texas member of Electoral College, speaking at Monday, Dec. 14 session in Texas House chamber.
 
Apologize. This is the fella.

Matt Patrick of Dallas, a Texas member of Electoral College, speaking at Monday, Dec. 14 session in Texas House chamber.
I found something on it in this write-up of 'Electoral College Voting Day':

Texas’s 38 electors meet on the state Capitol in Austin, and rapidly assign their votes to Trump and Vice President Pence. Then they stick round. Most, however not all of them, imagine that they will cross alongside resolutions to Congress with their electoral votes. Mark Ramsey, representing the 10th Congressional District, palms out copies of a decision shaming the Supreme Courtroom for not taking on Texas’s lawsuit in opposition to Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin. It is tailored, he says, from language handed by the state Republican government committee.

“Whereas, the members of the presidential electoral faculty from Texas condemn the ethical cowardice of the US Supreme Courtroom, in failing to just accept the unique jurisdiction of a go well with by one state in opposition to one other,” Ramsey says, “Be it resolved that the members of the presidential electoral faculty from Texas name on the state legislatures of Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Georgia, and Michigan, to convene and appoint their electors in accordance with the true constitutional vote of the folks, or if undeterminable, by appointing their electors instantly.”

A debate begins, however not over whether or not to cross the decision. Some electors fear that the time period “ethical cowardice” is simply too harsh, whereas some argue that it may’t be watered down. Mark Patrick, representing the 32nd Congressional District, shares a narrative about an unnamed Supreme Courtroom clerk overhearing Chief Justice John Roberts shout down Justices Samuel A. Alito and Clarence Thomas, telling the 2 conservatives that the specter of “riots” is a motive to kill the Texas case. The story is not sensible — the justices haven’t met in particular person since March — however Patrick says he noticed it recounted on-line, and “ethical cowardice” was a great way to explain it.

“I want I may offer you a selected quotation for this, however I did not make an observation of it, as a result of it was one thing that I learn this morning,” he explains.

[Errors in original article.]
 
Possible signs that Trump might go full Ceasar. If so, the real fight hasn't even begun!




Trump can, and he propably will. OSIT.


Two noteworthy twitter comment:

He's wrestling with a decision the results of which will reshape this country. I think he's holding out as long as he can, in hopes states will do the right thing. Because once he acts, there is no going back. Heavy hangs the head...

Yes. They will scream dictator.., but that’s nothing new. History will thank him for saving the republic. Churchill is applauding! Abe Lincoln is standing and cheering for #RealDonaldTrump.
 
This begs the question of which Martial Law scenario is worse, then? Trump's officially declaring Martial Law? Or the Martial Law we are presently seeing, which is only going to become more onerous once/if the Democrats take the White House?

If Trump were to declare Martial Law, it would confirm for many liberals what they've always claimed about Trump, his being a power hungry tyrant, etc. There will no doubt be an increase of the kind of rioting we've been seeing with BLM and Antifa, although, presumably, there will be serious consequences for such groups.

As for Deep State elements, what would their reaction be IF Trump's declaring Martial Law is truly an attack on their own power? Does Trump and the military have the necessary "might" to take on the Deep State?
I am of the opinion that what the "common man" wants is never a reality(anywhere in the world as far as I can see). Sure, some leaders rebelled and won temporarily to do some good things. It is always hidden 4D STS through their visible 3D ruling puppets. Where ever ruling puppets is not that powerful, still bad things happened to roll back any good.

With the thought of prospective US disintegration with Biden being president and election expose, one option seems to be putting Trump back in. If 4D STS using USA as a center of control on the planet (of course that notorious little Israel) for so long, they won't allow the US to disintegrate. They may want to keep Trump however short period it is. If we see long-standing military rules(across the world), one guy pops up under a crisis, he disappears soon, then somebody else usurps the power and real-bad things starts and continues for many decades.

Optics seems to be a big thing for these rulers. If that is not the case, we wouldn't have Obama ( "Bush" was keeping things under control at that time, however stupid he looked) then or Kamala Harris now.

This hacking "scare" is such a circus it works like magic ( i.e black one). 8 months back, a hacking scare started at my work, top to bottom everybody was lined up, spent 24 * 7 for 2 weeks over phone, to change the password of every known application( thousands). I asked how does they know some body hacked? It looked, some unauthorised login in one of company machine (there may be 2,000+ applications and thousands moremachines with diverse set of purposes and owners) in one vendor location in India ( there are half a dozen offshore vendors and probably dozen locations). There are layer by layer firewalls, password changes, and so on already exist. Nobody bothered to check what other unauthorised action happened. Just change every thing is the magical solution.

I had a decade-old vendor application that doesn't contain any secure information, whose admin password we never change (as per vendor recommendation). I resisted, but my boss ( she calls herself "mother hen" and normally amiable) more or less gave the ultimatum to change in 2 weeks. We pulled all the relevant parties, nobody can guarentee that application will not crash, if I change password. I complained to my boss(director), she summarized her problem like this - " This is the last thing for which I want to go to security councel to justify". Heck, we even have an all powerful security council too. Even directors don't want to confront Security managers and they can come up with their stupid rules they want. The more technical naivity of the security manager is, the stupidier the rules become.

After 2 weeks of tense time, I managed to change the password. Then they said, one has to change password every 3 months. Vendor gave a delicate surgery type procedure. I asked "why do you want us to do delicate process?". I was told to hire somebody from the vendor(India), if needed and get it done - Every body is doing, you do it. This is how the circular thinking goes. I understand, everybody wants to be responsible to do something for the so-called hack, but the lengths people go is ridiculous.

We did chnage password once well, second time something went wrong. It had been 2 months to identify what the issue is and every effort is like going into a time loop ( unlock the account, it locks in 2 minutes, but no body knows what is contributing to it- our basic functionality works). Everybody says, that's not their problem, but the application can't be down even for a day. Well, we narrowed down the problem to Vendor, asked them to fix it. It will be another 2 months before they will fix it. Now, the Infrastructure guys says "Your account is getting locked too many times, we won't support it". Only thing I can say is -"Do whatever you want. There is nothing I can do".
 
If this rigging is allowed to pass, I think it will spell the end of American democracy in the minds of MOST of the American people, and with it the elite's ability to rule and control a majority of the people, at least in way they have been doing so until now. I don't think they are willing to let that facade drop, and as they become increasingly aware of the extent of the suspicion around this election result, enough of a consensus will form to make it possible to use constitutional means to overturn the result on or after Jan. 6th, and of course, not without a lot of furor.

Pretty much my thoughts as stated here:

It seems pretty obvious to me that way more than half the country voted for Trump. So, for them to muscle in Sleepy Joe all the way to inauguration seems like a really bad idea in terms of strategy to me. There will be no doubt in the minds of the majority of Americans that the whole system has become a complete sham if that happens. Maybe they just don't care at this point. IDK -But, I would think that making Trump look like the dictator who refused to concede and forced the election to be determined by the one vote per state thing, would serve their purposes better. I mean, people prefer to think that maybe, somehow, the system still works. As long as there's a modicum of plausible deniability.
 
What a turn around here from Trump is finished to a possible win! Goodness. :rolleyes:

Richard Grenell says the Pentagon didn't cut off the briefing with the Biden people (unfortunately) and its fake news.


Peter Navarro releases 36-page report alleging election fraud 'more than sufficient' to swing victory to Trump​

Director of the Office of Trade and Manufacturing Policy Peter Navarro published a lengthy report Thursday outlining several examples of voting irregularities that are “more than sufficient” to swing the outcome of the election in President Trump’s favor.

The 36-page report “assesses the fairness and integrity of the 2020 Presidential Election by examining six dimensions of alleged election irregularities across six key battleground states” and concludes that “patterns of election irregularities ... are so consistent across the six battleground states that they suggest a coordinated strategy to, if not steal the election, strategically game the election process in such a way as to ... unfairly tilt the playing field in favor of the Biden-Harris ticket.”

The six dimensions of voting irregularities in the report include: outright voter fraud, ballot mishandling, contestable process fouls, equal protection clause violations, voting machine irregularities, and significant statistical anomalies.

All six of those voting issues were present in at least two key states, according to the report, and a total of six battleground states experienced multiple examples of the other dimensions.


The mystery of those weird monoliths has been solved :shock:!

 
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