3D STO's and STS's

RevNowWhileWeCan

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Hi everyone! :cool:

Again, I'm kind of new. I've been directed to read "The Wave" series and have been doing so diligently. It's been nothing short of amazing since I've started reading it two days ago. I've been working but besides that, I'm glued to my screen and I'm on chapter 14 so far.
I have one question that I know someone here can answer. I think I know the answer but just in case I missed it, I'll ask it here. Is it possible to come into this 3D world as a STS being and at some point remove that course and become a STO being? Can you really switch directions in the 3D or must I wait, reincarnate and come back as a STO being?

It's my personal view, being in the "truth movement" that with the millions of people on the streets daily that there IS a worldwide transformation of consciousness going on and it seems to me (the optimist) that with the internet and instant connectivity with individuals from across the world that there is a mass transformation taking place.
Anyone else see and believe this?

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RevNowWhileWeCan said:
I have one question that I know someone here can answer. I think I know the answer but just in case I missed it, I'll ask it here. Is it possible to come into this 3D world as a STS being and at some point remove that course and become a STO being? Can you really switch directions in the 3D or must I wait, reincarnate and come back as a STO being?

I would say that maybe, theoretically, such a thing would be possible, but it would almost never happen under normal circumstances. One thing that most of us realise, after being involved with these ideas for some time, is just how fundamentally STS we are, which is a requirement just to live on this planet. Becoming an STO being seems to be far out of the scope of what we can achieve, but we can take steps towards that ideal. The more steps you take and knowledge you gain, the more nasty stuff you have to confront in yourself, and the more you realise just how far we are from this STO state, and the sheer amount of work required to get there.

It's my personal view, being in the "truth movement" that with the millions of people on the streets daily that there IS a worldwide transformation of consciousness going on and it seems to me (the optimist) that with the internet and instant connectivity with individuals from across the world that there is a mass transformation taking place.
Anyone else see and believe this?

It seems more likely to me that this "transformation of consciousness" is just another historical cycle, and is largely motivated by the psychopaths in charge pushing for more and more power in the last few decades, and it reaches a point where some people are simply forced to 'wake up'. Things do seem to be heating up for sure, but without knowledge of psychopathology it will just go the same way that all so-called revolutions have gone in the past. I'm sure you're also aware of the massive amount of disinformation in any truth movement that effectively cripples and genuine change movement through disagreement and in-fighting.

Still, we don't give up hope :).
 
Carlisle,
While I DO believe you and fully understand of what you're saying about, "revolutions of the past", it is my humble opinion that this is different. I know all the other revolutions thought the same thing about their respective revolution but here's why I think this one is different. The history of revolutions have been fought and won or lost with bloodshed. I truly believe the world is understanding that we CANNOT have an armed revolution and that's why I think we win the one. The ptb only know how to deal with violence. This movement, for the most part, is an intellectual one with little or no violence. The oligarchs haven't a clue what to do with this. They send in provocateurs with almost no success and their false flags, well, most are starting to recognize them and expose them immediately! I think we have them on the ropes and in the end, I believe a real change for the good of mankind is on the horizon! ;)
 
RevNowWhileWeCan said:
The history of revolutions have been fought and won or lost with bloodshed. I truly believe the world is understanding that we CANNOT have an armed revolution and that's why I think we win the one. The ptb only know how to deal with violence. This movement, for the most part, is an intellectual one with little or no violence. The oligarchs haven't a clue what to do with this. They send in provocateurs with almost no success and their false flags, well, most are starting to recognize them and expose them immediately! I think we have them on the ropes and in the end, I believe a real change for the good of mankind is on the horizon!

Unless this movement was created or co-opted by the PTB early on as to assure that it will go exactly where the PTB wants it to be.

Violence is not the only arsenal in the PTB's bag of dirty tricks.
It can be a very efficient machine when it comes to manipulate people drive to freedom through their thinking and unconscious bias without any of them being aware that they are just pawns.
This may sound fatalistic but when you realise that what you think can be vectored without your conscious awareness it starts to become a glimmer of hope that you can actually change yourself from within even if it means to let go of cherished ideas & ideals.

And knowldge of psychopathy is indeed vital for any movement to be successful.
 
If you are able to keep yourself alive without eating food...I feel that we can work on ourselves to a point where emotionally intellectually and spiritually we are closer to STO then STS but at the end of the day if we are in the human body there will always be a certain amount of STS in us.
 
I agree with what others have said here. Until people realize how easily their groups can be co-opted by psychopaths and their lackeys, how some groups are even created by psychopaths to be controlled opposition and how no matter what these groups may accomplish, that unless they educate themselves fully about psychopathy, it will be meet the new boss, same as the old boss. The ptb simply substitute one psychopath with another. And if, by some weird chance, someone with conscience does make it into a place where real changes can be made, if they ignore those who are actually in control, then they will end up the same way that John Kennedy and Robert Kennedy ended up - dead.

Those people who many think are in control are actually not in control. They just follow orders from those who actually are in control.

Also, we are all here on this planet as STS beings. All we can do, for those who do not want to be STS beings, is to continually strive to be STO candidates. The only way we can do that is to learn about ourselves, clean our machines and try to act in an STO manner as much as possible.
 
Nienna said:
I agree with what others have said here. Until people realize how easily their groups can be co-opted by psychopaths and their lackeys, how some groups are even created by psychopaths to be controlled opposition and how no matter what these groups may accomplish, that unless they educate themselves fully about psychopathy, it will be meet the new boss, same as the old boss. The ptb simply substitute one psychopath with another. And if, by some weird chance, someone with conscience does make it into a place where real changes can be made, if they ignore those who are actually in control, then they will end up the same way that John Kennedy and Robert Kennedy ended up - dead.

Those people who many think are in control are actually not in control. They just follow orders from those who actually are in control.

Also, we are all here on this planet as STS beings. All we can do, for those who do not want to be STS beings, is to continually strive to be STO candidates. The only way we can do that is to learn about ourselves, clean our machines and try to act in an STO manner as much as possible.

So well explained Nienna, thanks.

RevNowWhileWeCan don't worry because the questions you are asking are answered by Laura in the Wave series.
In regards of "people waking up" she explains the COINTELPRO issue/disinformation from PTB agents in her book "Secret History of the World and How to get out alive". She gives A TON of data, so you will have a lot of information to think about.

IMHO (and here I'm not referring to you, just making an observation) If you have -at least some- empathy, knowing the present state of the world can be soul-smashing, with all this pain/suffering/misery going on, so being optimistic would be useful If you have a positive/balanced response to daily struggles and recognize the value of each lesson. But you can only do that If at the same time you put effort in learning about psychology and how your mind works so that you have tools to face the truth and to distinguish between the truth and what It seems to be the truth. Unfortunately I see a lot of people using the word "optimism" as "I'm optimistic, things are changing so everything will be fine". And here comes the delusion.

Finally, I would like to say that nowadays I see an abusive use of the words "truth" and "change" and it makes me wonder If this whole movement has been orchestrated not only to "divide and conquer" but to make those words lose original meaning, as It happened to the word "love" (Apart from what Laura says in the Wave, there's a very interesting article in sott about this http://www.sott.net/article/229797-All-you-need-is-Love )
 
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