adding an example of my artwork
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NewOrleans
Jedi Master
it's just a drawing I wanted to share. I just had the thought about the difference between showing art vs wanting compliments...Honest, it's not important as much as contributing something.... Sheeesh...caught the little beast red-handed trying to sneak in just after I posted.....LOL
I don't think there is anything to worry about posting some art, there are many threads on this board where people post pics of their works. And I like the drawing, by the way.
I just got some compressed charcoal and some india ink Saturday. I'm trying to get back into art, and I think I want to go to digital art, which is much faster and easier.
I just got some compressed charcoal and some india ink Saturday. I'm trying to get back into art, and I think I want to go to digital art, which is much faster and easier.
NewOrleans
Jedi Master
Thanks. As well as classically oriented art, I've been experimenting with optical patterns. Something almost spiritual and otherworldly about spherical patterns - stained glass windows come to mind. Good luck on your drawings 3D Student, jump right in.
Ottershrew
Jedi Master
This mandala is really pretty and absorbing.
I like the way your eye is drawn into the central rose, and then back out to the edges again.
I like the way your eye is drawn into the central rose, and then back out to the edges again.
NewOrleans
Jedi Master
With all due respect I don't think I have, Cubbex. I thought about this a very long time before I posted anything visual - which is why I added the P.S. How is an artist supposed to live if not by showing art? By that reasoning any comment or picture is feeding self-importance. I'm very conscious of not having that as the core of my life as an artist. I am not all that verbal and there'll be no long dissertations on Gurdjieff from me.I enjoy reading those who do. This IS it for me. I firmly believe, that (some but not all) Art is STO not STS. What I was refering to is the need for compliments. It's just not necessary. I wished to express myself through Art. But thank you for pointing it out.
NewOrleans said:
By not Showing art , do you mean , in an exhibiting manner , a situation for many to see? The answer simply is the artist "would live " unless artist chose to end ones life , Or if artist fell into depression and ill health because they were not able to show expressions/ art to many. The artist would get on with it like everyone else has to and express their way of being , in a different manner , via the art of thinking , talking , actions and so on. Being.
To receive a kind word from someone regarding what one has put out into the world should not be batted away i think , ones objective should not be "to be alone"
I think Plato said something like Art flows through the vessel that call itself the artist , therefore there is nothing wrong in someone being moved by the expression of the universe which has flowed through the artist , and the artist accepting the kind /complimentary remark on behalf of the cosmic mind. Dont take it to personal ;)
cubbex
The Living Force
You have missed the point and end up talking about another thing I was not referring. I was not talking about showing your artwork or your dissertations, I don't even know you had. I was talking about that little fear or anxiety in your post telling to the forum that you are just showing your artwork, assuming in some way that we were going to criticize you, and obviously not because this is the subforum for creative acts.NewOrleans said:
NewOrleans
Jedi Master
Cubbix, I'm not here to argue, seriously, but since you ask.... I don't have fear or anxiety or self-importance posting artwork. I had inexperience posting on this site and hesitancy. There are worse things than the opinions of friends and strangers. :) I'm experienced and I have had a long career doing art, so fear is not my bedfellow. Someone once told me that opposite of appreciation isn't hate but indifference. Every artist I know battles between inertia and creative impulse. We have our own internal struggle about creative expression. Van Gogh never sold a painting in his life but his drive to paint proceeded nevertheless.
I guess we all have an inner Godzilla speaking sometimes? But this is how lessons are learned, so here we are.
I get my fair share of criticism, praise and disinterest like every other artist. It's not a problem since I don't do art for other's approval unless it's commercial art. And then, sure, some corporate guy says he wants the lettuce greener in the picture and I'm fine with that. Designers understand criticism as a necessary factor in business. But these pictures I posted aren't frozen dinners, they're fine art. It's a different thing altogether. And I'm STILL happy to show them. I figured this was the one section of the site where that joy - the joy of creativity - can be shown. I like seeing and reading what other members are doing - it adds a fuller dimension of individuality. This isn't a cult of conformity here, it seems to me, but a garden of variety. And I don't HAVE TO leave a comment...it would seem, sometimes, comments can also be those little Godzillas of one-up-manship too. But not always. I DO see the caring opinions as helpful reminders of what the Work is about: STO.
One has to accept criticism gratefully, painfully, to grow. That's fine by me. And if that was the spirit in which you spoke, I can appreciate that. You say I didn't answer your question about "feeding the predator", but I think I did. And believe me, this was all done in a sense of fun not psychoanalysing motives. But, since it is the Work of this site, I gratefully take your comments - honestly and thoughtfully and I'll think about that... thanks. We all have this predator mind, yes? And learning to "catch it in the act" is a mirror not only for me but for you. Best wishes, Cubbix.
Hey, anybody watching HBO's "Treme"? It's very much a New Orleans story....
I guess we all have an inner Godzilla speaking sometimes? But this is how lessons are learned, so here we are.
I get my fair share of criticism, praise and disinterest like every other artist. It's not a problem since I don't do art for other's approval unless it's commercial art. And then, sure, some corporate guy says he wants the lettuce greener in the picture and I'm fine with that. Designers understand criticism as a necessary factor in business. But these pictures I posted aren't frozen dinners, they're fine art. It's a different thing altogether. And I'm STILL happy to show them. I figured this was the one section of the site where that joy - the joy of creativity - can be shown. I like seeing and reading what other members are doing - it adds a fuller dimension of individuality. This isn't a cult of conformity here, it seems to me, but a garden of variety. And I don't HAVE TO leave a comment...it would seem, sometimes, comments can also be those little Godzillas of one-up-manship too. But not always. I DO see the caring opinions as helpful reminders of what the Work is about: STO.
One has to accept criticism gratefully, painfully, to grow. That's fine by me. And if that was the spirit in which you spoke, I can appreciate that. You say I didn't answer your question about "feeding the predator", but I think I did. And believe me, this was all done in a sense of fun not psychoanalysing motives. But, since it is the Work of this site, I gratefully take your comments - honestly and thoughtfully and I'll think about that... thanks. We all have this predator mind, yes? And learning to "catch it in the act" is a mirror not only for me but for you. Best wishes, Cubbix.
Hey, anybody watching HBO's "Treme"? It's very much a New Orleans story....
NewOrleans said:
I think survival and self-importance are different, so it doesn't necessarily follow that it will have self-importance. But just being aware that there may be self-importance with showing art is helpful. But I don't think having a little pride in one's work is a bad thing, on the other hand we often beat ourselves up too. The extremes of the two would be an unhealthy imbalance. OSIT.
NewOrleans
Jedi Master
I think you're right, 3D Student. The two ARE different. Survival is economically driven and self-importance is ego driven. I've been aware of that too. Working on our craftsmanship and skill is great and there's no harm in that - it's ongoing. And as Salvador Dali once said, "Don't worry about perfection, you'll never reach it anyway." Research has shown that all children are born artists and it's usually by age 11 that they ever get a sense of comparison to others or disappointment. And then they usually stop more often my internal criticism than outside criticism. Yes, it is a delicate balance. Showing art is the impulse to share insights.
