Advice needed fast re serious relapse of heart attacks (and worse) for my friend

[happyliza]

:(

I had reason to visit Lefkosa today and decided to call in to see how my solicitor friend was as 10 days ago I did same to be told he was in hospital with angina.

This time nobody was around and I found him in his offfice diligently at work. Amazed at my 'timing' he had just received an important medical report. He had actually had two serious heart attacks and had been admitted to the Near East University hospital, had another heart attack and was then transferred to the best specialist hospital in Turkey where he had another heart attack.

He is in a very difficult place as they wish to do open heart surgery. However, he knows he already only has 50% chance of survival if this goes ahead. Thus I said I would seek a second opinion here which he is very grateful for – I could actually see his relief! ( I know Gaby is an expert and also appreciate whoever can chime in here as his odds are not good). He can only be in his late 50's and has donated so much to the country in time and training and hospital wards etc. His youngest twin daughters are at top universities in london – one is currently working with the helicopter paramedics in London. All a ve clever family and Devout Sufi's.

His situation is very dire:

Has already had one open heart surgery about 10 years ago, plus 3 angio plasties
Is being given injections for blood thining
KoAH
Irrevocable bronchitis (does not smoke for 10 years)

Reasons he calculates 50% survival chance:
Firstly He is diabetic – 10%
Koah/Bronchitis – 30%
Previous surgeries – 10%

(I may have confused which % for what as I was more concerned with listening)
Plus I will add that he is very overweight!

Now if that was not enough here is the worst bit. They have found a vegetation behind one of the valves 3.12 millimetres in size and 3.12 millimetres in thickness. The artery is on top of it, they are not sure if it is something that is movable or static. He mentioned the Mitral valve?
So he also needs another operation to change the valves and to extract the formation/growth.

I appreciate if a Turkish forumite may be able to translate the following from the Health Ministry/Near East University Hospital finding:
Saglik kurulu'nun 13.12.2016. Tedavi edilmk usere hastanenize gonderilmistir. Hasta icin konulan teshis ve kara soyledir:
Teshis:
MITRAL ARKA KAPAK BAZALINE SABIT 2CM CAPINDA EDOJEN IMAJ, EKOJEN IMAZ USERINDE VENTRIKUL YUZDE SALINAN EKOJEN IMAJ VEGETYON ?MIXOMA?
Karar: Hastanin Pet-CT icin

He doesn't have much time to decide though he has confided in me that he is ready to pass on, sadly, and has put all his affairs in order. Very stoical, though I know how much his family means to him, how many people he has represented for free, and how much he has done and been 'asked' to do for the sufis etc.

He has related many incredible spiritual experiences to me in the past, ie picking up 'hitch-hikers' who gave him advice or 'jobs to do for humanity – who then when he dropped them where they asked 'dematerialized' once he checked for them in his rear mirror! Then coming across one of them much later as he walked down a street in Cyprus.

I have many stories, some I even recorded on tape, when my mum and I used to see him on business. As I reminded him today, he can see into people's bodies and immediate tell them what ails them, including long distance, with my brother. He even healed my mother who was just days from dying with a combination of lung infection, angina, bronchitis and I think it was pneumonia. Anyway he sent for some herbs and 'medicine' and told her she will never get the 'lung' problem again – and she hasn't ! He was the right hand person of Sheikh Nazim here, and now his son. Anyway I reminded him he helps all these people but cannot see into himself sadly.

It meant a lot to me when he sincerely called me an angel appearing – in his time of need. But my confidence came to be able to assure him I will do my best to help because the REAL angels are everyone on the forum here. I know that I would not have been given this task nor would he have been able to confide in what help he needed, if I hadn't remembered to ask HOW I can help. Only then was he able to open up and elaborate on the information I needed to share. Very awe inspiring.

So I am glad I decided to 'pop in' to check out how he was and am so sad to find him with such an awful choice to make. Like us he is averse to more intrusive surgery but is at a loss as to what decision to make. Time is not on his side.
Thanks for any help or advice that I can forward for him.

PS He has also asked me to find a flat in the West End for his daughters, which I am already on the case, to ease another unnecessary worry for him.

We are having severe gales and storms here so my electricity is lost and the internet is intermittant plus my laptop battery nearly gone. I will go first thing to wherever I can get online to pick up any helpful advice I can pass on tomorrow. The storms are here until Monday and driving back from Lefkosa today I experienced one of the most blackest and horrendous storms and aquaplaning I have ever driven through. But I had my crystal with me and awareness thankfully. Many Many thanks the world needs to keep people like him here as long as possible.

 

[Gaby]

Is he opened minded to alternative treatments? It would help if he could strengthen his body with vitamin C and other nutrients. Even better if he receives vitamin C IV at high doses if such a thing could be facilitated in the hospital.

If the indication of surgery is warranted due to refractory angina or repeated heart attacks which don't respond to treatment, then the worst has to be expected. I cannot deny the associated risk and prognosis of the surgery considering his background of diabetes, bronquitis and redo heart surgery. If his heart has an acceptable ejection fraction, he could fare better.

Unfortunately, if the vegetation in the mitral valve is due to an endocarditis (infection of the heart), then I'm afraid the prognosis is even worse. From my old days in heart surgery, I never saw anyone surviving a heart surgery with all these conditions. But it is true that in the cases that I saw, there were more vegetations in the heart and not just one.

You can download the following papers on Vitamin C IV:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/c6mxrbu9wt0xocd/AABGZO0g8cQkfrDHayTgq08ia?dl=0

It teaches how to use it. Most hospitals carry IV vitamin C on their pharmacies. Perhaps he and his physicians will be opened minded considering the prognosis.

I'm sorry it has to be this way.

 

[WIN 52]

The only other thing that might help is a distance healing through the crystal network. You could use the home crystal with him present or a picture of him next to the crystal, not sure which would be better.

Unfortunately, I am not attuned to practice but I have experienced the healing power of Reiki, using the correct lineage. I was first worked on in 1980 after an accident which crushed the arch in my left foot. The Doctors didn't think I would be able to walk again but here I am, 36 years later, walking without a cane and without pain (for the most part). I recently had an MRI of my left foot. After seeing the images, the technician was surprised that I walked in for the exam and walked out after the imaging was done.

It would be a good trial with kind of instant results. I am just not sure if people would be willing to do it?

 

[Laura]

The only other thing that might help is a distance healing through the crystal network. You could use the home crystal with him present or a picture of him next to the crystal, not sure which would be better.

Unfortunately, I am not attuned to practice but I have experienced the healing power of Reiki, using the correct lineage. I was first worked on in 1980 after an accident which crushed the arch in my left foot. The Doctors didn't think I would be able to walk again but here I am, 36 years later, walking without a cane and without pain (for the most part). I recently had an MRI of my left foot. After seeing the images, the technician was surprised that I walked in for the exam and walked out after the imaging was done.

It would be a good trial with kind of instant results. I am just not sure if people would be willing to do it?

This is not exactly a case that is set up for any intervention on our side. When you consider the many factors such as "When the Body Says 'No'" and diet, and karma and such things, it would be hubris at best, dangerous at worst, to employ our resources in that direction.

 

[happyliza]

Thank you so much for your advice Gaby I will share your suggestions with him so he can better decide for himself.

I totally agree with Laura there are many other things to take into consideration. The first being - which I feel is the main cause is his weight. We know here that 'spirituality' takes everything into account starting with the body, heart (emotions) and mind (knowledge) - all centres.

Both my friend and his son are very overweight and it seems have not taken their body into consideration thus causing the later problems and all the sugar type foods eaten here. Even Turkish delight which he always offers me in his office. So sickly sweet junk.

He is definitely open minded about the alternatives. But he will need to follow through with total change of diet and lifestyle. He does walk and meditate with his dog and also in the summer swims for miles but it is only putting the band aid on the underlying toxic diet.

Would it be of any use to persuade him to go fully keto at this stage or is the damage far too advanced by now?

 

[Gaby]

Would it be of any use to persuade him to go fully keto at this stage or is the damage far too advanced by now?

It might be too much of a shock for his body at this stage. If he can eat as cleanly as possible, avoiding toxic sugars and vegetable oils, that will already be very good for him.

Above all, he should avoid doing anything that will add stress to his body.

 

[bozadi]

I appreciate if a Turkish forumite may be able to translate the following from the Health Ministry/Near East University Hospital finding:
Saglik kurulu'nun 13.12.2016. Tedavi edilmk usere hastanenize gonderilmistir. Hasta icin konulan teshis ve kara soyledir:
Teshis:
MITRAL ARKA KAPAK BAZALINE SABIT 2CM CAPINDA EDOJEN IMAJ, EKOJEN IMAZ USERINDE VENTRIKUL YUZDE SALINAN EKOJEN IMAJ VEGETYON ?MIXOMA?
Karar: Hastanin Pet-CT icin

Hi, happyliza, I'm sorry for the health situation and I'm also sorry that I noticed this thread just a few minutes ago incidentally. I don't know if it will do any good now but I want to offer my translation for the medical Turkish text.

The text you provided seems slightly problematic (some lacking elements and letters, misspellings, etc.) but the general meaning seems understandable. Reminding that I'm no expert in this specific medical field, here is my translation for it:

(...) of Medical Board dated 13 December 2016. (He) has been referred/sent to your hospital for treatment. Below is the diagnosis and decision made for the patient:

Diagnosis:

ENDOGENIC IMAGE 2 CM IN DIAMETER FIXED TO THE BASE OF MITRAL POSTERIOR VALVE, ECHOGENIC IMAGE OSCILLATING ON THE VENTRICLE SURFACE [ON THE ECHOGENIC IMAGE(?)] VEGETATION? MYXOMA?

Decision: The patient (...) for Pet-CT

I don't know what the words "image" refer to. Maybe the image of a problematic tissue?

 

[WIN 52]

The only other thing that might help is a distance healing through the crystal network. You could use the home crystal with him present or a picture of him next to the crystal, not sure which would be better.

Unfortunately, I am not attuned to practice but I have experienced the healing power of Reiki, using the correct lineage. I was first worked on in 1980 after an accident which crushed the arch in my left foot. The Doctors didn't think I would be able to walk again but here I am, 36 years later, walking without a cane and without pain (for the most part). I recently had an MRI of my left foot. After seeing the images, the technician was surprised that I walked in for the exam and walked out after the imaging was done.

It would be a good trial with kind of instant results. I am just not sure if people would be willing to do it?

This is not exactly a case that is set up for any intervention on our side. When you consider the many factors such as "When the Body Says 'No'" and diet, and karma and such things, it would be hubris at best, dangerous at worst, to employ our resources in that direction.

Yes, I understand completely. People need to take the responsibility for their health upon themselves, which includes diet. This grabbing at straws when faced with the results of years of poor diet and wrong information is desperation at best. A person would need to do a whole lot of work on themselves before this may be effective, in cases like this.

Where would one draw the line? Sorry for the noise!

 

[Gaby]

ENDOGENIC IMAGE 2 CM IN DIAMETER FIXED TO THE BASE OF MITRAL POSTERIOR VALVE, ECHOGENIC IMAGE OSCILLATING ON THE VENTRICLE SURFACE [ON THE ECHOGENIC IMAGE(?)] VEGETATION? MYXOMA?

It is also very common to mislabel an endocarditis with vegetations as a myxoma. This last one is more improbably because it is very rare.

These images might actually be vegetations.

 

[happyliza]

Thank you for the translation Bozadi. That is approximately what I thought it meant too.
I have forwarded the advice re no vegetable oils - everything seems to be deep friend or cooked in it here! As well as no sugars - which a diabetic should be doing anyway!

Sorry I missed my donation day yesterday. I will send this today as I know so many projects are crying out for cash injections! Please use wherever.

Again many thanks everyone.

 

[WIN 52]

If he truly is a good person, you will have a chance to see him again. Remember, both 3D and 5D will graduate to 4D.

Who knows, maybe he chose to graduate from 5D.

 

[Heather]

Hi happyliza.

So sorry to hear about your friend.

If he decides to go the more holistic route and do a vit c drip, you might also have him look into EDTA Chelation therapy.

This seems like some good info here (it's an alternative therapy, and so a lot of conventional sources are more wary than is helpful):

http://www.life-enhancement.com/magazine/article/78-edta-chelation-the-real-miracle-therapy-for-vascular-disease

All our prayers for your friend.

Heather

FYI: I'm recalling now that Coenzyme Q10 is a good supplement for the heart.

 

[Laura]

Thank you so much for your advice Gaby I will share your suggestions with him so he can better decide for himself.

I totally agree with Laura there are many other things to take into consideration. The first being - which I feel is the main cause is his weight. We know here that 'spirituality' takes everything into account starting with the body, heart (emotions) and mind (knowledge) - all centres.

Both my friend and his son are very overweight and it seems have not taken their body into consideration thus causing the later problems and all the sugar type foods eaten here. Even Turkish delight which he always offers me in his office. So sickly sweet junk.

He is definitely open minded about the alternatives. But he will need to follow through with total change of diet and lifestyle. He does walk and meditate with his dog and also in the summer swims for miles but it is only putting the band aid on the underlying toxic diet.

Would it be of any use to persuade him to go fully keto at this stage or is the damage far too advanced by now?

I don't think that weight, per se, is necessarily the issue; Gaby recently told me "Anecdotally, most people in need of ER service have normal weight too. Lean people have more osteoporosis too. It is crazy, but often, the more weight, the more longevity."

However, the sugar/simple carbs IS.

As you say, he would need to follow through with a total change of lifestyle/diet and that is not very likely to happen.

 

[Gaby]

I don't think that weight, per se, is necessarily the issue; Gaby recently told me "Anecdotally, most people in need of ER service have normal weight too. Lean people have more osteoporosis too. It is crazy, but often, the more weight, the more longevity."

Here is an article that supports this:

Obesity paradox: New study reveals cells with higher fat content outlive lean cells
https://www.sott.net/article/312985-Obesity-paradox-New-study-reveals-cells-with-higher-fat-content-outlive-lean-cells

This concept shows that overweight people have the lowest all-cause mortality rates while fit people, oddly enough, have mortality rates comparable to those categorized as slightly obese.

"The obesity paradox baffles scientists across numerous disciplines," said Min-Hao Kuo, MSU biochemist and molecular biologist who published the study in the current issue of PLoS Genetics. "But when it comes to yeast, which is an excellent model for the studies of human aging, increasing the cellular content of triacylglycerol, or fat, extends the lifespan."

Kuo's team was the first to show a positive correlation between Triacylglycerol, or TAG, content and lifespan. The connection provides support for the obesity paradox theory, he added.

TAG is a fat found in all eukaryotes that include animals, plants and fungi. The lipid's ability to store excessive energy, provide insulation and accumulate in response to many stressors is well known. What's perplexing, though, is how TAG influences lifespan.

"Our team used genetic approaches to manipulate the cellular capacity of triacylglycerol reproduction and degradation," Kuo said. "Via sophisticated analyses, we demonstrated that it preserves life through a mechanism that is largely independent of other lifespan regulation pathways common in yeast as well as humans."

The first thing Kuo's team did was delete TAG lipases, enzymes that break down the lipid into smaller molecules for different uses including energy extraction. Unable to utilize TAG, these yeast accumulated fat inside the cells. In addition, Kuo and his colleagues boosted the production of the fat by increasing the enzyme for TAG synthesis.

In both cases, blocking TAG breakdown and forcing its production, yeast cells are fatter and have longer lifespan. In contrast, yeast cells depleted of the ability to synthesize TAG are lean but die early. Overexpressing a TAG lipase in an otherwise normal strain forces TAG breakdown. These cells also suffer from a shorter lifespan.

Interestingly, those fat and long-living yeast cells do not seem to suffer from obvious growth defects. They mate and produce progeny well On the other hand, other common methods of extending lifespan, such as caloric restriction and deletion of genes key to nutrient sensing, frequently cause cells to grow slowly or be less tolerant of environmental stresses.

While the team suspects that the pro-longevity function exists in humans, they've yet to prove that triacylglycerol could drive the intriguing phenomenon in humans.

"Our paper likely will stimulate a new wave of research that has broad and deep impacts, including potential advances in human medicine," Kuo said.

Here is another one:

Why being 'overweight' means you live longer: The way scientists twist the facts
https://www.sott.net/article/294889-Why-being-overweight-means-you-live-longer-The-way-scientists-twist-the-facts

I have been studying medical research for many years, and the single most outstanding thing I have learned is that many medical "facts" are simply not true. Let's take as an example the health risks of drinking alcohol. If you are a man, it has virtually become gospel that drinking more than 21 units of alcohol a week is damaging to your health. But where did the evidence to support this well-known "fact" come from?

The answer may surprise you. According to Richard Smith, a former editor of the British Medical Journal, the level for safe drinking was "plucked out of the air". He was on a Royal College of Physicians team that helped produce the guidelines in 1987. He told The Times newspaper that the committee's epidemiologist had conceded that there was no data about safe limits available and that "it's impossible to say what's safe and what isn't". Smith said the drinking limits were "not based on any firm evidence at all", but were an "intelligent guess".

In time, the intelligent guess becomes an undisputed fact. On much the same lines, we have the inarguable "fact" that being overweight is bad for your health. I should say that, by definition, being "overweight" must be bad for your health - or we wouldn't call it overweight. But we do not define overweight as being the weight above which you are damaging your health; it has an exact definition.

To be overweight means having a BMI of between 25 and 30. Not as bad for you as obesity, but still damaging. Why else would all hospitals and doctors surgeries have BMI charts plastered on the wall with little green squares, orange squares and red squares? Green is normal weight, orange is overweight and red is obese. Even Wikipedia confirms this: "The generally accepted view is that being overweight causes similar health problems to obesity, but to a lesser degree. Adams et al estimated that the risk of death increases by 20 to 40 per cent among overweight people, and the Framingham heart study found that being overweight at age 40 reduced life expectancy by three years."

You can also find papers in prestigious medical journals such as the Journal of the American Medical Association (Jama) with the following headline: "Excess deaths associated with underweight, overweight and obesity." That certainly suggests that overweight is bad for you. However, if you look more closely at the paper in Jama, we can find these words: "Overweight was not associated with excess mortality." (My italics). Perhaps more extraordinarily, what the researchers actually found was that those who were overweight lived the longest; they lived longer than those of "normal" weight.

You may be surprised to find that you can have a paper in one of the world's leading medical journals entitled "Excess deaths associated with underweight, overweight and obesity", which found that overweight people lived the longest. After studying medical research for as long as I have, I am far from surprised. I regularly find that the title of a paper, the abstract, and even the conclusions often bear very little relationship to what the study actually found.

Perhaps you think I am being selective and only choosing one misleading paper. Well, here are the conclusions of another study done in Canada in 2010: "Our results are similar to those from other recent studies, confirming that underweight and obesity class II+ (BMI > 35) are clear risk factors for mortality, and showing that when compared to the acceptable BMI category, overweight appears to be protective against mortality." I love the way they couldn't bring themselves to say "normal" BMI. They had to call it "the acceptable BMI category". This, I suppose, helps to fend off the inevitable question. If people of normal weight have shorter lifespans than those who are overweight, why do we call them normal? Surely we should call them "mildly underweight", at which point we would have to call people who are now considered overweight "normal".

You can see a further example of the weird strangulation of the language occurring a year earlier. In 2009, a German group did a painstaking meta-analysis of all studies on overweight and obesity that they could find. As with most other researchers, they found that being overweight was good for you. Of course, they didn't phrase it in this way. They said: "The prevailing notion that overweight increases morbidity and mortality, as compared to so-called normal weight, is in need of further specification."

In need of further specification? An interesting phrase, but one that hints at the terrible problems researchers have when their findings fail to match prevailing dogma; if the prevailing consensus is "if your BMI is between 25 and 29, it is damaging your health and you should lose weight", then you challenge this at your peril. The end result of this is that the titles of scientific papers can end up twisted through 180 degrees, while in others, the prose becomes ever more tortured.

Despite the fact that study after study has demonstrated quite clearly that "overweight" people live the longest, no one can bring themselves to say: "Sorry, we were wrong. A BMI between 25 and 29 is the healthiest weight of all. For those of you between 20 and 25, I say, eat more, become healthier." Who would dare say such a thing? Not anyone with tenure at a leading university, that's for sure.

In truth, this discussion should not quite stop here. For even when we get into those with a BMI greater than 30, those who truly are defined as "obese", the health dangers are greatly overestimated, mainly because of the widespread use of what I call the statistical "clumping game". Obesity researchers are world-leading experts at the clumping game. In most studies, the entire population is divided ("clumped") into four groups: underweight, normal weight, overweight and obese - obese being defined as a BMI of 30 and above. That means those with a BMI of 31 are clumped together as part of a group which includes those with a BMI of 50 - and above. What does this tell us about the health problems of having a BMI of 31? Well, absolutely nothing.

There is no doubt that becoming heavier and heavier must, at some point, damage your health and reduce your life expectancy. Where is this point? Well, it is certainly not anywhere between 25 and 30, and it could be even higher. Indeed, I have seen research on Italian women showing that a BMI of 33 was associated with the longest life expectancy. In other studies, where obesity was actually further sub-divided, those with a BMI between 30 and 35 lived longer than those of so-called "normal" weight.

So, while I cannot tell you when "obesity" becomes a major health problem, I can definitely tell you that being "overweight" is the healthiest and most "normal" weight of all.

 

[happyliza]

Thank you for your further comments and well-wishing. We humans miss people soooo much when they leave their physicality even though we know they are purely in a different density and far happier than here!

I will pass the new advice along too and make a point to drive to Lefkosa more to 'keep an eye on him' as well as regular phone contact. I don't know whether he has disclosed too much to his family so I will use the excuse that I am asking for client property referrrals in order to re-contact his son who is also a close friend and is on my FB.



I am amazed at this latest info re obesity - so I am learning too!! Who woudda thought?

Edit : Added last thought.