Airplane Abducted By UFO in Midair

[Vulcan59]

Regarding the article Airplane Abducted By UFO in Midair carried in SOTT's main. Assuming it's not a fake, there must be a whole lot of people from Davis Monthan Air Force Base that would know about it.

Air traffic controllers especially tower controller, approach radar controllers, etc. From the video it's hard to tell whether the airplane is a military airplane or not. Since it was making an approach into an Air Force airbase, I am assuming it's a light trainer type aircraft that most airforces use for ab initio pilot training rather than a civilian aircraft. A civilian aircraft straying into military airspace would be tracked anyway. In either case, lots of people would know about it.

It would be interesting if anyone living around that area could make discreet enquiries and try to verify it this video is authentic. Official enquires probably won't get anyone very far. Really very interesting video assuming it's not faked.

Edited - Link.

 

[combsbt]

If you look in the comments of that article it explains:

This video is an admitted hoax by the poster. He confessed in a forum at aliens-ufos.com:

Jmart714, Aug 15 2009, 01:28 AM, wrote
"And now for the best part. The video is fake. Obviously comes at no surprise. You guys don't even need to bother responding. This thread has a mere 530 views, and I'm sure half of those are repeat views from us. Just a tiny little community you have here at AU, hilarious. I'll leave you all alone now, it was fun."

 

[The rabbit]

If you look in the comments of that article it explains:

This video is an admitted hoax by the poster. He confessed in a forum at aliens-ufos.com:

Jmart714, Aug 15 2009, 01:28 AM, wrote
"And now for the best part. The video is fake. Obviously comes at no surprise. You guys don't even need to bother responding. This thread has a mere 530 views, and I'm sure half of those are repeat views from us. Just a tiny little community you have here at AU, hilarious. I'll leave you all alone now, it was fun."

Well it would be cool if the writer of the retraction let us knew how he did it. Such a statement could come from being threatened , and so on.And thats not to say that it is not a fake.

 

[Vulcan59]

Thanks combst.

Didn't notice that comment. Ah well somehow I knew it was too good to be true.

 

[Meg]

If you look in the comments of that article it explains:

This video is an admitted hoax by the poster. He confessed in a forum at aliens-ufos.com:

Jmart714, Aug 15 2009, 01:28 AM, wrote
"And now for the best part. The video is fake. Obviously comes at no surprise. You guys don't even need to bother responding. This thread has a mere 530 views, and I'm sure half of those are repeat views from us. Just a tiny little community you have here at AU, hilarious. I'll leave you all alone now, it was fun."

Well it would be cool if the writer of the retraction let us knew how he did it. Such a statement could come from being threatened , and so on.And thats not to say that it is not a fake.

I agree. Admitting it's a hoax would be an effective way to draw attention away from the video... :/

 

[combsbt]

FWIW, I also thought that the motion of the object in the video looked digitally produced, especially with the blurry fade out at the end when it disappears.

 

[Woodsman]

FWIW, I also thought that the motion of the object in the video looked digitally produced, especially with the blurry fade out at the end when it disappears.

I agree. There's something about faked UFO material which I've noticed over the years. --I think very often that those who make fake videos/pictures tend to think that the UFO phenomenon is baloney and are inclined to be firmly entrenched in 3D thinking. As such, when they create their impressions of what they think a UFO should look and behave like, they typically do so using their knowledge of 3D rules of physical behavior.

Through this, their examples are more likely to fail to include the weird and. . , abstract? nature of a 4D phenomenon. The 'UFO' in this video behaved like a predator insect which was working within the same space and 'time' as the airplane. If it were, however, an emanation from 4D, then it would already know where the airplane was going to be before it got there, and would already be there itself, and would have no need to fly in a predator pattern which is only useful in 3D.

Also, I tend to notice that such people can't help but give into mechanical game-theory impulses. This particular video showed a bird flapping away at one point in the same line of sight as the airplane and the 'UFO'. Including that kind of thing is typical stage-magician misdirection designed to tweak emotional responses, etc, and while such events certainly do happen in nature, they do so in a chaotic manner; when they are deliberately included, the result feels forced.

It's hard to pin down why videos of this nature feel wrong, but the more examples I see and the more follow up I see done exposing the cranks, the more it becomes possible to hone one's instincts wrt fake v.s. real.

I find the fakes almost as interesting as the real McCoy simply because of how the expose the human mind.

 

[Vulcan59]

The article in question has been removed from SOTT's main page since it's a confirmed fake. :)

 

[Niall]

And yet, if you read the whole thread, it seems that the "hoaxer" said this in exasperation:

"And now for the best part. The video is fake. Obviously comes at no surprise. You guys don't even need to bother responding. This thread has a mere 530 views, and I'm sure half of those are repeat views from us. Just a tiny little community you have here at AU, hilarious. I'll leave you all alone now, it was fun."

jmart was attacked throughout (by one forumite inparticular, around whom the others corralled). It's as if he said the above just to close the matter and spite the AU forumites.

_http://www.alien-ufos.com/UFO-collides-small-plane-t25892.html&st=40

Edit: After searching some more, I've discovered that Justin Martinez is a short film maker specialising in CGI, 'special effects':

_http://www.myspace.com/jmart714

[Check out "Nano War" for a sample of his ability to create effects]

_http://www.funnyordie.com/jmart714

He also goes by the name of 'Brothers Martinez' on a different YouTube channel:

_http://www.youtube.com/user/BrothersMartinez

He seems to think of himself as an 'illusionist':

_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Izp7_JVZR4A&feature=channel_page

All of which suggests he's capable of creating a compelling hoax.

Other UFO forums have called his bluff:

_http://ufocasebook.conforums.com/index.cgi?action=usersrecentposts&user=jmart714

 

[combsbt]

Seems that the SOTT editors have re-posted this video with a new comment:

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/191600-Airplane-abducted-by-UFO-caught-on-tape-Hoax-or-what-

I think that is a good call. Even if it is fake the comment makes a good point about being open to possibilities. The comment also brings back a couple interesting stories about seemingly similar plane abduction events.

 

[Vulcan59]

Thanks combsbt,

I have re-enabled the link at the start of this thread.

 

[Vulcan59]

Looks like this has happened before. I was reading Dolan's "UFO's and the National Security State, Vol 1" and on page 213 there is a strange case of an F-89 pilot and his crew member who were scrambled to intercept the unknown object in 1953. Here is how it is described:-

The radar station had the F-89 and the UFO on scope as the two blips merged into one. For a moment the single blip remained on the scope, then disappeared. No trace of wreckage or the missing men was ever found. The story carried briefly on AP, but Keyhoe and Edwards faced continual stonewalling by military brass.

Gives new meaning to this video.