dannybananny
Jedi Council Member
I had a baccalaureus work about Alexander the Great and I remendided myself about UFO's encounter he had, so this is what I found about this topic:
The first recorded incident regarding Alexander the Great and UFO's was recorded in 329BC. Alexander decided to invade India and was attempting to cross the river Indus(it's not sure if this was the right river but they assume it is) to engage the Indian army when "gleaming silver shields" swooped down and made several passes over the battle.
These "gleaming silver shields" had the effect of startling his cavalry horses, causing them to stampede. They also had a similar effect on the enemies' horses and elephants so it was difficult to ascertain whose side these "gleaming silver shields" were on. Nevertheless, after exiting the battle victoriously Alexander decided to not proceed any further into India.
"Frank Edwards, a prolific UFO reporter, in 'Stranger than Science' quotes an undisclosed source when he makes the following claim ...
"Alexander the Great was not the first to see them nor was he the first to find them troublesome. He tells of two strange craft that dived repeatedly at his army until the war elephants, the men, and the horses all panicked and refused to cross the river where the incident occurred. What did the things look like? His historian describes them as great shining silvery shields, spitting fire around the rims... things that came from the skies and returned to the skies."
The reliability and integrity of Frank Edwards has been called into question by several scholars on a number of topics. In particular Author Irving Wallace and his research team who have compiled and published The Peoples Almanac, among other works . They were unable to substantiate many of Frank Edwards fantastic claims on various topics.
Frank Edwards cites that Alexander's Historian "describes them as great shining silvery shields, spitting fire around the rims... things that came from the skies and returned to the skies." Alexander the Greats Court Historian was Callisthenes, a Nephew of Aristotle who was later executed on Alexander's orders. Some of his works have survived fragmentarily and in condensed forms See Penguin Classics "The Greek Alexander Romance (Penguin Classics)" and :The history of Alexander the Great..." there is no clue in either of these works as to where Edwards may have obtained his information.
"332 BC Phoenicia, Tyre, a city-state. During a siege by the Greeks a fleet of flying shields is described as plunging from the sky and breaching the city walls. "
In his attempt to conquer the Persian Empire he realized that the city of Tyre needed to be captured in order to prevent the Persians from using that port to land an army behind him.
The original coastal city of Tyre(todays Ṣūr in Lebanon) had been destroyed before and had been rebuilt some distance offshore from its original site. Having no navy, Alexander decided to use the remains of the old city to build a causeway to the new one.
It took Alexander six full months to do this and when the task was completed and his troops staged their assault they were easily rebuffed because the walls were too high to quickly scale and too thick to batter down. Not only that but the causeway was too narrow to allow sufficient troops to launch a massive enough attack to overwhelm the enemy in order to scale the walls.
Not only was this a problem for Alexander but apparently a problem for "God" as well. Both the prophets Ezekiel and Isaiah had spoken of "God's" curse and eventual destruction of Tyre. (Ezekiel Chapters 27 & 28 and Isaiah Chapter 23). How was Alexander going to achieve his goal? How was "God" going to ensure that His prophecy would be fulfilled?
The historical account, recorded by Alexander’s chief historian, states that, during an attack of the island city, one of two 'gleaming silver shields' attacked a section of the wall with a 'beam of light' which subsequently caused that section of the wall to fall! Alexander’s' men poured through the opening and captured the city.
The following translation is from "Gods and Spacemen In Greece and Rome" by W. Raymond Drake. Drake cites Alberto Fenoglio, who claims that he drew his information from a work by Johann Gustavo Droysen , 1808–1884. Droysen, was a respected German Historian, his book on Alexander the Great [Geschichte Alexanders des Großen. ] is considered by many to be the best modern era work on the subject of Alexander.
"The fortress would not yield, its walls were fifty feet high and constructed so solidly that no siege-engine was able to damage it. The Tyrians disposed of the greatest technicians and builders of war-machines of the time and they intercepted in the air the incendiary arrows and projectiles hurled by the catapults on the city. ..One day suddenly there appeared over the Macedonian camp these "flying shields", as they had been called, which flew in triangular formation led by an exceedingly large one, the others were smaller by almost a half. In all there were five. The unknown chronicler narrates that they circled slowly over Tyre while thousands of warriors on both sides stood and watched them in astonishment. Suddenly from the largest "shield" came a lightning-flash that struck the walls, these crumbled, other flashes followed and walls and towers dissolved, as if they had been built of mud, leaving the way open for the besiegers who poured like an avalanche through the breeches. The "flying shields" hovered over the city until it was completely stormed then they very swiftly disappeared aloft, soon melting into the blue sky."
This is a fascinating tale. There is no English language translation of the scholarly work by Droysen to verify the cited content. Albert Fenoglio, from who Drake drew his data is a allegedly charlatan who has been known to have fabricated a number of UFO tales or they made him look like one.
The Life and Deeds of Alexander the Great p. 70 records the conquest of Tyre, and states only that "they opened the gates of the city by night, entered and killed the guards ...sacked the whole city and leveled it to its foundations... "
Roman historian Quintus Curtius Rufus, drawing on earlier Greek sources, describes a slightly differing version of the fall of Tyre in The History of Alexander (Penguin Classics)
"...The king himself climbed the highest siege-tower [which was full of catapults and other siege-engines]. His courage was great, but the danger greater for, conspicuous in his royal insignia and flashing armor, he was the prime target of enemy missiles. And his actions in the engagement were certainly spectacular. He transfixed with his spear many of the defenders on the walls, and some he threw headlong after striking them in hand-to-hand combat with his sword or shield, for the tower from which he fought practically abutted the enemy walls.
By now the repeated battering of the rams had loosened the joints in the stones and the defensive walls had fallen; the fleet had entered the port; and some Macedonians had made their way on to the towers the enemy had abandoned . The Tyrians were crushed by so many simultaneous reverses. Some sought refuge in the temples as suppliants while others locked their doors and anticipated the enemy by a death of their own choosing. Others again charged into the enemy, determined that their deaths should count for something. But the majority took to the rooftops, showering stones and whatever happened to be to hand on the approaching Macedonians...." [Translation by John Yardley.]
Arrian of Nicomedia, a Greek historian, military commander and philosopher wrote the Anabasis of Alexander (History of Alexander and Indica), Books I-IV , nowhere does he mention - flying shields
The Greek historian Diodorus Siculus wrote a Library of world history in forty books; the conquests of Alexander is contained within his works - no flying shields.
The Greek historian Plutarch of Chaeronea wrote On the Fortune or the Virtue of Alexander the Great - no flying shields
The Roman historian Justin wrote also wrote a history of Alexander - no flying shields
Before he started his major offensive against Persia Alexander sought the advice of an oracle in a temple located in the desert(Egypt). He set off, with a small party of men, but miscalculated the logistics and found himself hopelessly out of water and dying of thirst.
Almost miraculously, a rare, but unusually strong rain cloud burst overhead and gave him and his men sufficient water to safely complete their journey. No one reported seeing any 'gleaming silver shields' but here again is a case of a wondrous "cloud" that we see so many occurrences of in the Bible.
In my opinion this could be one more big cover up by the history. It looks like "gods" wanted him to successed but only to a certain limit. Alexander was one of individuals who helped to form the world we know today. Before him, eastern cultures like Egypt, Babylon and Persia dominated, but after his conquest Rome and Greece took first place. greek languege became dominant in former Persian Empire and Greek civilization spread all over the East. The economic system that started to take shape in his time would be unchanged until the industrial revolution in 19 century. ;)
The first recorded incident regarding Alexander the Great and UFO's was recorded in 329BC. Alexander decided to invade India and was attempting to cross the river Indus(it's not sure if this was the right river but they assume it is) to engage the Indian army when "gleaming silver shields" swooped down and made several passes over the battle.
These "gleaming silver shields" had the effect of startling his cavalry horses, causing them to stampede. They also had a similar effect on the enemies' horses and elephants so it was difficult to ascertain whose side these "gleaming silver shields" were on. Nevertheless, after exiting the battle victoriously Alexander decided to not proceed any further into India.
"Frank Edwards, a prolific UFO reporter, in 'Stranger than Science' quotes an undisclosed source when he makes the following claim ...
"Alexander the Great was not the first to see them nor was he the first to find them troublesome. He tells of two strange craft that dived repeatedly at his army until the war elephants, the men, and the horses all panicked and refused to cross the river where the incident occurred. What did the things look like? His historian describes them as great shining silvery shields, spitting fire around the rims... things that came from the skies and returned to the skies."
The reliability and integrity of Frank Edwards has been called into question by several scholars on a number of topics. In particular Author Irving Wallace and his research team who have compiled and published The Peoples Almanac, among other works . They were unable to substantiate many of Frank Edwards fantastic claims on various topics.
Frank Edwards cites that Alexander's Historian "describes them as great shining silvery shields, spitting fire around the rims... things that came from the skies and returned to the skies." Alexander the Greats Court Historian was Callisthenes, a Nephew of Aristotle who was later executed on Alexander's orders. Some of his works have survived fragmentarily and in condensed forms See Penguin Classics "The Greek Alexander Romance (Penguin Classics)" and :The history of Alexander the Great..." there is no clue in either of these works as to where Edwards may have obtained his information.
"332 BC Phoenicia, Tyre, a city-state. During a siege by the Greeks a fleet of flying shields is described as plunging from the sky and breaching the city walls. "
In his attempt to conquer the Persian Empire he realized that the city of Tyre needed to be captured in order to prevent the Persians from using that port to land an army behind him.
The original coastal city of Tyre(todays Ṣūr in Lebanon) had been destroyed before and had been rebuilt some distance offshore from its original site. Having no navy, Alexander decided to use the remains of the old city to build a causeway to the new one.
It took Alexander six full months to do this and when the task was completed and his troops staged their assault they were easily rebuffed because the walls were too high to quickly scale and too thick to batter down. Not only that but the causeway was too narrow to allow sufficient troops to launch a massive enough attack to overwhelm the enemy in order to scale the walls.
Not only was this a problem for Alexander but apparently a problem for "God" as well. Both the prophets Ezekiel and Isaiah had spoken of "God's" curse and eventual destruction of Tyre. (Ezekiel Chapters 27 & 28 and Isaiah Chapter 23). How was Alexander going to achieve his goal? How was "God" going to ensure that His prophecy would be fulfilled?
The historical account, recorded by Alexander’s chief historian, states that, during an attack of the island city, one of two 'gleaming silver shields' attacked a section of the wall with a 'beam of light' which subsequently caused that section of the wall to fall! Alexander’s' men poured through the opening and captured the city.
The following translation is from "Gods and Spacemen In Greece and Rome" by W. Raymond Drake. Drake cites Alberto Fenoglio, who claims that he drew his information from a work by Johann Gustavo Droysen , 1808–1884. Droysen, was a respected German Historian, his book on Alexander the Great [Geschichte Alexanders des Großen. ] is considered by many to be the best modern era work on the subject of Alexander.
"The fortress would not yield, its walls were fifty feet high and constructed so solidly that no siege-engine was able to damage it. The Tyrians disposed of the greatest technicians and builders of war-machines of the time and they intercepted in the air the incendiary arrows and projectiles hurled by the catapults on the city. ..One day suddenly there appeared over the Macedonian camp these "flying shields", as they had been called, which flew in triangular formation led by an exceedingly large one, the others were smaller by almost a half. In all there were five. The unknown chronicler narrates that they circled slowly over Tyre while thousands of warriors on both sides stood and watched them in astonishment. Suddenly from the largest "shield" came a lightning-flash that struck the walls, these crumbled, other flashes followed and walls and towers dissolved, as if they had been built of mud, leaving the way open for the besiegers who poured like an avalanche through the breeches. The "flying shields" hovered over the city until it was completely stormed then they very swiftly disappeared aloft, soon melting into the blue sky."
This is a fascinating tale. There is no English language translation of the scholarly work by Droysen to verify the cited content. Albert Fenoglio, from who Drake drew his data is a allegedly charlatan who has been known to have fabricated a number of UFO tales or they made him look like one.
The Life and Deeds of Alexander the Great p. 70 records the conquest of Tyre, and states only that "they opened the gates of the city by night, entered and killed the guards ...sacked the whole city and leveled it to its foundations... "
Roman historian Quintus Curtius Rufus, drawing on earlier Greek sources, describes a slightly differing version of the fall of Tyre in The History of Alexander (Penguin Classics)
"...The king himself climbed the highest siege-tower [which was full of catapults and other siege-engines]. His courage was great, but the danger greater for, conspicuous in his royal insignia and flashing armor, he was the prime target of enemy missiles. And his actions in the engagement were certainly spectacular. He transfixed with his spear many of the defenders on the walls, and some he threw headlong after striking them in hand-to-hand combat with his sword or shield, for the tower from which he fought practically abutted the enemy walls.
By now the repeated battering of the rams had loosened the joints in the stones and the defensive walls had fallen; the fleet had entered the port; and some Macedonians had made their way on to the towers the enemy had abandoned . The Tyrians were crushed by so many simultaneous reverses. Some sought refuge in the temples as suppliants while others locked their doors and anticipated the enemy by a death of their own choosing. Others again charged into the enemy, determined that their deaths should count for something. But the majority took to the rooftops, showering stones and whatever happened to be to hand on the approaching Macedonians...." [Translation by John Yardley.]
Arrian of Nicomedia, a Greek historian, military commander and philosopher wrote the Anabasis of Alexander (History of Alexander and Indica), Books I-IV , nowhere does he mention - flying shields
The Greek historian Diodorus Siculus wrote a Library of world history in forty books; the conquests of Alexander is contained within his works - no flying shields.
The Greek historian Plutarch of Chaeronea wrote On the Fortune or the Virtue of Alexander the Great - no flying shields
The Roman historian Justin wrote also wrote a history of Alexander - no flying shields
Before he started his major offensive against Persia Alexander sought the advice of an oracle in a temple located in the desert(Egypt). He set off, with a small party of men, but miscalculated the logistics and found himself hopelessly out of water and dying of thirst.
Almost miraculously, a rare, but unusually strong rain cloud burst overhead and gave him and his men sufficient water to safely complete their journey. No one reported seeing any 'gleaming silver shields' but here again is a case of a wondrous "cloud" that we see so many occurrences of in the Bible.
In my opinion this could be one more big cover up by the history. It looks like "gods" wanted him to successed but only to a certain limit. Alexander was one of individuals who helped to form the world we know today. Before him, eastern cultures like Egypt, Babylon and Persia dominated, but after his conquest Rome and Greece took first place. greek languege became dominant in former Persian Empire and Greek civilization spread all over the East. The economic system that started to take shape in his time would be unchanged until the industrial revolution in 19 century. ;)
