America: From Freedom to Fascism

[fabric]

Has anyone seen this?

http://video(dot)google(dot)com/videoplay?docid=-4312730277175242198&q=America%3A+From+Freedom+to+Fascism&hl=en

I will watch later this evening. Sounds interesting.

From the website (link beside video):

"Determined to find the law that requires Americans to pay income tax, Aaron Russo (THE ROSE, TRADING PLACES) sets out on a journey. Neither left- nor right-wing, this startling examination exposes the systematic erosion of civil liberties in America. Through interviews with US Congressmen, a former IRS Commissioner, former IRS and FBI agents, tax attorneys and authors, Russo connects the dots between money creation, federal income tax, voter fraud, the national identity card (becoming law in May 2008) and the implementation of radio frequency identification (RFID) technology to track citizens. A striking case about the evolving police state in America. "

 

[Beau]

There's a thread in the movies section that discusses this:

http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=600

 

[Rabelais]

Arron Russo has done a very good job of putting together the facts. The majority of Americans seem to have little awareness of how the shackles of slavery were attached to them in 1913, with the creation of the Federal Reserve.

For those wishing to learn more about this, or seeking measured presentations to share with sleeping friends and relatives, G Edward Griffin's book, about the highly secret creation of the Fed, The Creature From Jekyll Island, has been brought to life in this very well done video. It makes a great companion piece for Freedom to Fascism. Both of these videos should be required viewing in our school systems, but we know that is not going to happen.

Where Freedom to Fascism deals more with the illegality of the income tax, Fiat Money works to expose the ponorology of the Federal Reserve and its societal controls, via money creation and inflation:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5232639329002339531&hl=en

 

[OnChaos]

The Federal Reserve stands as a model for all central banks, the cooperation between the political establishment and the banking establishment keeps them both in business. You let us make money out of thin air and well give you all the money you want. Wealth becomes centralized and the common man becomes enslaved. Mortgages to the bank and taxes to the politicians to pay for their free stuff.

 

[Oxajil]

Hey guys.

I posted the video on another forum to spread the word.

Someone replied:

There are more things wrong with the claims of Aaron Russo than I could explain in a single post. The paranoid claims listed here are old and easily disproved.

Here's a summary:

1. Congress enacted a federal tax code -- by statute -- that legalized the income tax. The US Supreme Court said in 1911 that the income tax amendment being considered wasn't communism and was perfectly legal. This contradicts the idea that it's unconstitutional and hasn't been written into the law.

2. The US Federal Reserve System does NOT create our money. In the Treasury Department there's an agency for creating paper money and another for minting coins. But the Fed does regulate the value of cash. I'm not sure where the Wilson quote came from, but our country is far wealthier and more powerful now than it was before World War One, so this alleged ruination hasn't happened today -- nearly 100 years later!

3. The "Unitary Executive" theory states that the president is empowered by the Constitution to enforce all the laws enacted by Congress. The USA Patriot Act is an act of Congress, and while there have been thousands of abuses, it is tame compared to earlier similar acts, such as the McCarran Internal Securities Act in the Cold War, or the Smith Act in WWII, or the Sedition Act in WWI. Also, the Patriot Act has a deadline and will expire someday, and it's never been used as forcefully as opponents have feared. I'm not trying to minimize the damage, but come on!

4. The Real ID Act is an anti-forgery act intended to stop people from making fake ID's, such as fake driver's licenses. After 9/11, this is a serious issue. It has always been the law that you need valid papers to prove who you are, even in frontier times. This new law doesn't change that, but it says the federal government will demand higher standards when "you" try to prove who you are, instead of accepting it on face value. The only information being asked for are things that the government already has the legal right to know anyway, like birth date, name, address, and things like that.

 

[Laura]

What a load of horse-hockey! Talk about selection and substitution of premises and dissociation!

 

[Franco]

"I'm not sure where the Wilson quote came from, but our country is far wealthier and more powerful now than it was before World War One, so this alleged ruination hasn't happened today -- nearly 100 years later!"

Yes, America is just fine economically right now :D