Ancient Grains are not the Grains of Today

[Cat]

Why are people becoming so intolerant to wheat? The industry is flooded with 'new' products with hooks, 'gluten free'. Why is that? What happened to wheat?

GMO's is what happened to wheat. Insecticides happened to wheat.... monsanto....happened to wheat.

The ancient grains are packed with nutrition without bloating and stomach upset. The grains today are corrupted.

Spelt, and I mean organic spelt grain will not give one the problems as regular white wheat will. I buy mine by the bucket and grind it myself. Lots of 'online' merchants who sell organic spelt by bulk. Yes, it is a lot of work but unfortunately our choices for healthy grains is very limited. "Someone" has seen to that !!!

 

[monotonic]

Luckily, I don't even have to bother finding sources of any kind of grain because I eat mostly meat and fat. And if I had to eat carbs in the future I would not need enough to require grains.

 

[Cat]

Well, they do say, you are what you eat. Eating a corpse of an animal that has lived a life of pure slavery, brought up in conditions of desperation, to only be led down the slaughter line to be murdered... you are eating death. Would you eat your dog? or your pet cat? What is the difference between a dog, a cat, a pig, a horse, a duck, a chicken, a cow, a sheep, a goat?

All have a head, 4 limbs, a heart that beats in their chest, they bleed red blood like us, have a soul, have feelings which means they know they are being abused, feel pain, suffer, they know they are being murdered. Ever watched animals line up for the slaughter? They shake, they cry, they fight, they know what is happening in front of the line. Have you ever researched the plight of 'livestock'? It is horror.

Watch a few films on youtube on animal slaughter. Do you think we have the right to murder animals, to enslave them?
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Then... what can you say about the lizzies? They do the same to us....yet we're trying to get out of that soup, aren't we? How can we do what we do to animals and believe it is wrong what the lizzies do to us? Hypocritical? I think so.

Universal law.... do no harm.

 

[Renaissance]

Well, they do say, you are what you eat. Eating a corpse of an animal that has lived a life of pure slavery, brought up in conditions of desperation, to only be led down the slaughter line to be murdered... you are eating death.

On the other hand one could become a vegetable! :P

The vegetarian diet has been thoroughly explored here. The thread addresses your points, so it would be helpful to read it through (and check out the book that the thread is about) to have an understanding of the forum's views on this issue.

 

[Cat]

I would rather be a vegetable, than a dead corpse. I've done basically years or research. There is zero way I would ever participate, perpetuate to the best of my ability to cause harm to an animal...ever. And... that means you too.

 

[Josi]

There is zero way I would ever participate, perpetuate to the best of my ability to cause harm to an animal...ever. And... that means you too.

That is unfortunate you won't investigate further! You will not learn the harm to far more animal life from agriculture practices.

 

[monotonic]

Yes, when humans try to eat mostly plants they end up killing far more animals out of ignorance and pure greed for those addictive grains.

 

[Cat]

"Yes, when humans try to eat mostly plants they end up killing far more animals out of ignorance and pure greed for those addictive grains."

Now that is a grand statement. I'd like to see evidence of that !!

Think.... of all the plant matter that is grown to sustain animals for slaughter.... all the water required to sustain the animal for food industry and all the waste that is the result of raising animals. Do a little research on that and I will believe your statement will be contrary to your original belief. We all have to eat so I wouldn't call it 'greed', it is a necessary action to survive. Organic ancient grains are NOT addictive. If they were, you'd be complaining about them.

Wheat today is corrupted but not all grains are. Spelt, organic spelt is the closest to what wheat is in respect to taste, ... it is an ancient grain.

Animals for slaughter eat what? .... PLANTS but that is corrupted now with some farming outfits feeding them dead animals. Mad cow disease anyone?

 

[Josi]

"Yes, when humans try to eat mostly plants they end up killing far more animals out of ignorance and pure greed for those addictive grains."

Now that is a grand statement. I'd like to see evidence of that !!

But, you won't look at the evidence. Read Vegetarian Myth. She lays it all out in its horrific detail.

Think.... of all the plant matter that is grown to sustain animals for slaughter.... all the water required to sustain the animal for food industry and all the waste that is the result of raising animals. Do a little research on that and I will believe your statement will be contrary to your original belief. We all have to eat so I wouldn't call it 'greed', it is a necessary action to survive. Organic ancient grains are NOT addictive. If they were, you'd be complaining about them.

Do a little research on that and I will believe your statement will be contrary to your original belief.

Wheat today is corrupted but not all grains are. Spelt, organic spelt is the closest to what wheat is in respect to taste, ... it is an ancient grain.

Animals for slaughter eat what? .... PLANTS but that is corrupted now with some farming outfits feeding them dead animals. Mad cow disease anyone?

If every one stopped eating animals tomorrow - what would become of them? Who is going to feed them? What suffering would occur?

 

[Cat]

Well, you know that isn't going to happen. Its a moot point. People are changing, whether you are a C's follower or not. When you are dealing with what is proposed to half the population being psychopaths, organic portals...they couldn't give a ratz azz about animals.

I'm sovereign. I make choices for myself that are directed to STO, not STS. I won't harm another for my sake. If the C's are advocating the eating of flesh, well. it just might be a test to see if any of you have learned a thing.

This is a predator planet. I won't participate in the predator attitude towards man or animal for my benefit. Period.

 

[Mr. Premise]

Well, you know that isn't going to happen. Its a moot point. People are changing, whether you are a C's follower or not. When you are dealing with what is proposed to half the population being psychopaths, organic portals...they couldn't give a ratz azz about animals.

I'm sovereign. I make choices for myself that are directed to STO, not STS. I won't harm another for my sake. If the C's are advocating the eating of flesh, well. it just might be a test to see if any of you have learned a thing.

This is a predator planet. I won't participate in the predator attitude towards man or animal for my benefit. Period.

Well, if you think you're sovereign and have free will to make decisions like that, then I don't know what to say. This forum, again, is based on the 4th way work and the starting point of that path is realizing we are machines with no consciousness and free will.

 

[T.C.]

Hi Cat

I won't harm another for my sake.

There is enourmous evidence that plants, grains, fibre and carbohydrate are very bad for our health. Your posts in this thread are advocating the use of foods scientifically proven to cause the majority of the health problems of people on the planet.

What if someone on here is persuaded by your stance against eating meat and turn vegetarian? In place of meat, they might eat fruit, vegies, carbs, grains etc, and they will get I'll. You will have harmed another for your sake.

What if you yourself have been lied to about what's good for you and what isn't. What if, by reading the book The Vegetarian Myth you learn that you're harming yourself, harming animals and harming the planet? What if?

Do you care enough to find out?