Anti-Anxiety Medication

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My daughter has been suffering from depression for several years. There seem to be a number of reasons for this: one of the major ones is that she has a condition known as hyper-hydrosis which is excessive sweating. I have tried a number of remedies for her: acupuncture, diet, and a device that provides mild electric shocks to the nerves of the hands which seems to work to a certain degree. I have watched several videos with her in which people with this issue express how profoundly they feel shame and embarrassment in social situations. Acupuncture seemed to work, but it takes many treatments to have an effect as do the electrical shocks delivered by the device I bought for her.

Her reaction to stress is avoidance. This took the form of first cutting school, and then dropping out entirely. Despite her profound self-consciousness, she has many friends who want to see her and whom she avoids, and she has refused to date anyone because she is anxious that some remark will be made about her hands.. She is uncomfortable around people her own age and spends most of her time at home. She has a job taking an eight year old bringing him to school and chaperoning him to soccer practice, supervising his homework and babysitting when the parents go out. Before that she worked in a bakery, and after that an ice skating rink.

I was really happy that she was ice skating as she loved it. But some of the people at the rink sent unkind texts about her to each other, and she became depressed and after the job ended she never skated since.

She is too depressed to exercise, and has not been able to follow any dietary protocol always reverting back to sugar, and wheat based products. She has seen several therapists, but has never followed their recommendations.

A few weeks ago, her friend's mother gave her the name and contact information for a psychiatrist. My daughter has always wanted to take medication and I've always said no. The mother who gave my daughter the contact info for the psychiatrist put her daughter on meds at a very early age. I remember that when this friend was about 8, she kept threatening to kill herself at my daughter's birthday celebration. She kept insisting that I give her the knife to cut the cake, and I kept saying no. It was awful. She was under the table, then she was wrestling me for the knife. At the end of that awful occasion, she told me that it was a good thing that I hadn't given her the knife because if I had, she would have killed herself.

I don't understand why, with all the friends my daughter has, she has chosen this one to have the most influence on her. I guess many parents are bewildered by there children's choice of friends.

My daughter is now twenty, but I do think this parent should have consulted me before offering my daughter the psychiatrist's number.

I have a friend whose entire family has needed to take medication, and she spoke to me at length about what might happen with certain classes of drugs.

She was very concerned as she herself has had tyroid damage and feels that the chemicals have so altered her brain chemistry that she will never be able to stop taking them.

As my daughter is working and has her own money, there is really nothing I can do. She really sees anti-anxiety medication as the answer to all her problems.

My daughter's reaction to anything I say has always been very oppositional from a very early age. For me, the best tactic will be to keep my mouth shut and let go. At least that would allow our relationship to survive. It's very hard though. I started the breathing exercises, and am working on my diet to help me through this.

The one thing that I was able to convince my daughter to do was to look up some of the side effects of the family group of, I think they're called SSRIs. They have a number of side effects one of which, ironically enough, is hyper-hydrosis.
 
Hey Webglider,

I'm sorry to hear you are having such a difficult time with your daughter. This must be very difficult for her especially. Maybe anxiety really is a bigger part of this picture. If your daughter were experiencing anxiety, I don't think that that would be too far fetched. Especially when reading about her behaviors in avoiding people, places, or certain activities. Anyway, I am not a doctor though ;) When I first started here on the forum, I made a thread http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,23010.msg250908.html#msg250908 called GAD (General Anxiety Disease (it should say Disorder not Disease, lol. I hadn't realized I had made that typo 'till now)). Well, I take Clonozopam, but it is somewhat harder to get a prescription than SSRI's. I have explained my reasoning in that thread. I swear by it as awesomely treating my anxiety and panic attacks. Anyway, on this thread you can read about all the symptoms and side effects of most of the stuff out there. Hope it helps!

BTW I did try Gaba like 3D student suggested, but have not given it a fair chance for a good review as to some side effects It had on me. I have yet to read up on those side effects here on the forum, it may be a simple solution. But maybe that could also be an option. Good luck and I hope you can work through things with yours and your daughter's relationship, as well as find a handle on a physical and psycological basis.
 
Hi webglider!

I'm sorry to hear about your struggles. I'm curious--has your daughter asked you for help regarding any of her struggles? She's certainly of the age to be able to make her own decisions, so if she wants to see a psychiatrist and take psychoactive poisons, she does have the freedom to do such.

It sounds like you're aware of EE and the nutritional solution to disharmonies, so I imagine you've conveyed this information to her as well. Depression, of course, is often caused by systemic inflammation and excessive stress. It's likely both would be effective with her, but if she doesn't want to do them, that's her choice.

Beyond that, it seems, would be the challenge of accepting her for choosing to take poisons as the easy way out of struggles. Or, conversely, a poison can be an ally for a period of time to aid a person in some way through a struggle--perhaps such things will help her until she no longer needs them (a crutch) or fail, producing a lesson. Or perhaps the psychiatrist won't prescribe medication and simply work with her through talk therapy for her anxiety.

From her perspective, what I would imagine her seeing is you having tried a number of things throughout her life that didn't work and the challenge being great enough within her that she wants to try another solution and see if it works, which is one that it sounds like she's been seeking for some time. For whatever reason, she thinks it may help and until she sees otherwise for herself, I think acceptance and support where requested are the best you can do.

Good luck!
 
My daughter has been suffering from depression for several years. There seem to be a number of reasons for this: one of the major ones is that she has a condition known as hyper-hydrosis which is excessive sweating. I have tried a number of remedies for her: acupuncture, diet, and a device that provides mild electric shocks to the nerves of the hands which seems to work to a certain degree. I have watched several videos with her in which people with this issue express how profoundly they feel shame and embarrassment in social situations. Acupuncture seemed to work, but it takes many treatments to have an effect as do the electrical shocks delivered by the device I bought for her.

I saw something on television a while back about a girl who suffered from excessive sweating. What ended up giving her relilef was getting shots, I think something of a botox nature, in strategic places which paralyzed the sweat glands.

Sounds rather unorthodox, but at least she wouldn't be taking mind-altering drugs...
 
Your daughter reminds me a lot of myself, especially when i was young. I implore you not to make the mistake of letting any Doctor prescribe her any type of mind altering drug whatsoever. It has led me to a lifetime of addiction. It is also something that a person can kind of "grow" into as they get older, but if you were to somehow convince her of the merits of a diet change, and doing the EE meditation, it would surely make a world of difference for her. Here is a related link that may give you some better ideas.
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,24981.0.html
 
quote by Crystla24

Anyway, I am not a doctor though When I first started here on the forum, I made a thread http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,23010.msg250908.html#msg250908 called GAD (General Anxiety Disease (it should say Disorder not Disease, lol. I hadn't realized I had made that typo 'till now)).

Thank you for providing the link. I read it, and I need to read the information a few more times as most of the terms are technical and I'm not familiar with them. It seems from what you wrote that the medication that you're taking is helpful, and that you know how to handle it.

That's reassuring.

Quote by Fox
From her perspective, what I would imagine her seeing is you having tried a number of things throughout her life that didn't work and the challenge being great enough within her that she wants to try another solution and see if it works, which is one that it sounds like she's been seeking for some time. For whatever reason, she thinks it may help and until she sees otherwise for herself, I think acceptance and support where requested are the best you can do.

I agree with you. She does want my acceptance and support, but she does not want my advice.

quote from Mrs. Peel

I saw something on television a while back about a girl who suffered from excessive sweating. What ended up giving her relilef was getting shots, I think something of a botox nature, in strategic places which paralyzed the sweat glands.

I found the information about botox shots, but they don't work on the palms of the hands. They also have the side effect of increasing sweating on other areas of the body.

http://excessivesweating-treatment.com/botox-for-excessive-sweating-part-one

It's really hard to see my daughter suffer, and it's been going on for a long time. I have my opinions, but I've never gone through what she's experiencing.

I was about to post the above when I read davey72's post:

Your daughter reminds me a lot of myself, especially when i was young. I implore you not to make the mistake of letting any Doctor prescribe her any type of mind altering drug whatsoever. It has led me to a lifetime of addiction. It is also something that a person can kind of "grow" into as they get older, but if you were to somehow convince her of the merits of a diet change, and doing the EE meditation, it would surely make a world of difference for her. Here is a related link that may give you some better ideas.
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,24981.0.html

She showed me the worksheet that the psychiatrist gave her. It had a questionaire, a self monitoring section on becoming aware of tension in the body, and another section on breathing exercises. If he's prescribed medication for her, she hasn't shared that information with me. I feel so bad that you went through addiction because of medication, Davey, and for posting to warn me of the possibility. I just need to keep centering myself so that I'll be someone she feels she can trust if she needs me. I haven't taken the information too well so far, and that needs to change.

Thanks everyone for the feedback. It's very helpful, and I don't feel so desperate and alone.










http://excessivesweating-treatment.com/botox-for-excessive-sweating-part-one
 
webglider said:
My daughter has been suffering from depression for several years. There seem to be a number of reasons for this: one of the major ones is that she has a condition known as hyper-hydrosis which is excessive sweating. I have tried a number of remedies for her: acupuncture, diet, and a device that provides mild electric shocks to the nerves of the hands which seems to work to a certain degree. I have watched several videos with her in which people with this issue express how profoundly they feel shame and embarrassment in social situations. Acupuncture seemed to work, but it takes many treatments to have an effect as do the electrical shocks delivered by the device I bought for her.
As usual, Food is very important.-gluten/casein free evil additives free etc.
Your account of daughter reminds me of the cognitive therapy books. Personally I read this Feeling Good book with others. she can sit alone , read it , do the excercises and challenge the her cognitive distoritions 15 min. a day. They have profound effect on correcting the thought processes. One form of countering the predator mind's self defeating automatic processes.

search on automatic negative thoughts (ANT's) in forum , it will help. Also look on 5-HTP, GABA, Vitmain C threads, they have lot of effect on the mood, when one is particularly stressed.

For stess, EE is unbeatable.
 
Seek10 wrote:

Personally I read this Feeling Good book with others. she can sit alone , read it , do the excercises and challenge the her cognitive distoritions 15 min. a day.

I clicked on the link and looked inside the book and found that there is a whole section on Perfectionism which is a major issue. Thank you.
I'm going to order it.
 
Hi webglider,

When I was nineteen and experiencing depression and anxiety I begged my doctor to give me medication to make me feel better. I thought the pills would live up to their name, but over the years none of them have. I have taken numerous anti-depressants and also an anti-anxiety med called Xanax. Xanax is highly addictive and I would not recommend it.

Now I use EE for my anxious moments and also am very strict on my diet. I think diet plays a HUGE role in our emotional well-being. Going dairy, gluten, refined sugar and alcohol free really helped me greatly, but having good digestion is also a key. On days that I am constipated I notice I am more sensitive, depressed and it's harder to focus.

I think Approaching Infinity posted an article on here somewhere that really hit home for me. I can't find the link on the Cass site, but here is the article:

"Think Twice: How the Gut's "Second Brain" Influences Mood and Well-Being"

_http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=gut-second-brain

It makes sense to think that if we have toxic bodies that our minds would also become toxic. So, in addition, I think that exercise is also a key to having a balanced mood. Even just a short brisk walk can improve my mood.

Hope this helps!

Edit: I have also been taking St John's Wort to treat depression and anxiety: http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,24420.msg278668.html#msg278668
 
webglider said:
Your daughter reminds me a lot of myself, especially when i was young. I implore you not to make the mistake of letting any Doctor prescribe her any type of mind altering drug whatsoever. It has led me to a lifetime of addiction. It is also something that a person can kind of "grow" into as they get older, but if you were to somehow convince her of the merits of a diet change, and doing the EE meditation, it would surely make a world of difference for her. Here is a related link that may give you some better ideas.
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,24981.0.html

She showed me the worksheet that the psychiatrist gave her. It had a questionaire, a self monitoring section on becoming aware of tension in the body, and another section on breathing exercises. If he's prescribed medication for her, she hasn't shared that information with me. I feel so bad that you went through addiction because of medication, Davey, and for posting to warn me of the possibility. I just need to keep centering myself so that I'll be someone she feels she can trust if she needs me. I haven't taken the information too well so far, and that needs to change.

Thanks everyone for the feedback. It's very helpful, and I don't feel so desperate and alone.










http://excessivesweating-treatment.com/botox-for-excessive-sweating-part-one

You can only do what you can do. Caring as much as you do, and wanting to do what you are able to do, in my opinion, is 90% of the battle. I am sure she will be fine in the end. I only wish i had a parent like you when growing up.
 
webglider said:
Seek10 wrote:

Personally I read this Feeling Good book with others. she can sit alone , read it , do the excercises and challenge the her cognitive distoritions 15 min. a day.

I clicked on the link and looked inside the book and found that there is a whole section on Perfectionism which is a major issue. Thank you.
I'm going to order it.
there is a section on medications. I haven't read it, so I don't what he said. Medication is BIG NO :scared:
 
Quote from Scarlet:

I think Approaching Infinity posted an article on here somewhere that really hit home for me. I can't find the link on the Cass site, but here is the article:

"Think Twice: How the Gut's "Second Brain" Influences Mood and Well-Being"
,
_http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=gut-second-brain

The article really hit home for me too. Every time I ignore that "gut feeling" I pay for it twice. First, I'm anxious because I know emotionally that something is wrong, and that I'm not facing it. Secondly, whatever I'm blocking and not addressing manifests itself and then, when I have no choice but to deal with the situation, it's much worse than it would have been if I had dealt with it earlier. I'm also much more sensitive to other people when they have that sense of unease. Sometimes people don't express that feeling clearly in words, but body language gives it away.

You can only do what you can do. Caring as much as you do, and wanting to do what you are able to do, in my opinion, is 90% of the battle. I am sure she will be fine in the end. I only wish i had a parent like you when growing up.

That's kind Davey, but I wish I had been more knowledgeable when she was growing up. Caring really isn't enough. It's caring in the right way at the right time.
 
I have 3 children 1 whom is on meds at 23 and my life partner takes them occasionally when anxious. From my observations of my own stress and theirs, what gives us stress day to day are those negative feelings each of us has learned from a very early age. Now that my kids are older and I see their stress points we can discuss these (feelings) in terms of what programming was installed. Of course as parents we played a key role in that programming and usually the discussion comes back around to us as it would be part of our programming that we passed on. So a big part of being helpful to our children is waking up to our own programming.

When we started waking up to the matrix the discussions would be very heated and many times would end in finger pointing and anger. Over time however as we have become more self aware we see that we have all just been victims in a long line of very negative programming from our parents, friends, school, religion, etc. We continue to try and take these things apart but it is not easy.

As for my son who is on meds, he will not take part in these discussions because the program in him that we recognize and know the source of is very strong, but until he decides to take control, all we can do as a parent is provide support, guidance and maybe a little unsolicited advise here and then delivered in a way that is not trying to control but be helpful. One thing I have found as a parent is when I was pushy it was not for their benefit, so much as it was for mine to make me feel better as a parent. This motivation usually ends up bad. If my motivation is based on being helpful and being there when they ask for help it usually works out much better.

All that said, certainly as was suggestted by others, is that diet, exercise and the breathing program will go a long way to battling stress and also makes you more capable to waking up to your control programs.
 

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I saw something on television a while back about a girl who suffered from excessive sweating. What ended up giving her relilef was getting shots, I think something of a botox nature, in strategic places which paralyzed the sweat glands.

Sounds rather unorthodox, but at least she wouldn't be taking mind-altering drugs...

If it’s underarm sweating I know a very good friend that had Botox shots in that location and it quelled the sweating for many years. I’ve never had Botox but I hear it’s not too costly
 

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