Anyone read Matrix V Quest of the Spirit and the rest of the trilogy?

David Topi

David Topi

Jedi Master
Hi all,

A few years ago I was led to read all the matrix books by Val Valerian including the latest Matrix V Gold Trilogy. They were my first real mind opener (and since then I have had a few ones, no less with the C's material as well). Plenty of stuff on the M5 books resonated deep within, some other parts did not at all, but in any case, I have not been able to find anyone yet to discuss that material. There were very limited copies of those books I believe, I once asked Val Valerian and he told me he has published less than 2000 copies, and since Jan 2011 they are no longer available for purchase.

So, back to the question, anyone read them and wants to share your feelings about it?
thanks
David
 
David Topi said:
Hi all,

A few years ago I was led to read all the matrix books by Val Valerian including the latest Matrix V Gold Trilogy. They were my first real mind opener (and since then I have had a few ones, no less with the C's material as well). Plenty of stuff on the M5 books resonated deep within, some other parts did not at all, but in any case, I have not been able to find anyone yet to discuss that material. There were very limited copies of those books I believe, I once asked Val Valerian and he told me he has published less than 2000 copies, and since Jan 2011 they are no longer available for purchase.

So, back to the question, anyone read them and wants to share your feelings about it?
thanks
David
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Hi, David,


If you will read the whole Wave series, you will find information about Laura's encounter with Val Valerian.


Here are a couple of links that you may find helpful to start you off with:


http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/valerian.htm

http://quantumfuture.net/quantum_future/thoughts_2.htm


http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,25734.msg306211.html#msg306211
 
Hi Emerald,
thanks for the links, yes, I think I have already read that. Val is not the author of the books I wanted to ask for opinion, but just the publisher, so that is why Matrix V is so different from his other books. Have you had a chance to read them?

hugs!
David
 
No, I haven't, but after seeing what happened before, and seeing that there was dis info before, I see no reason to pursue it. He did not write the prior books either, if you will notice, not all of it anyways. Notice he also wanted to get Laura's material .All disinfo is mixed with truth- it is the only way it can stand. No need to think that anything has changed.... by their fruits ye shall know them.


Perhaps, if there is anything in the Matrix V trilogy that really stands out as complimentary to Laura's work that the forum may be
interested in, you could post some of the excerpts or the ideas in general and we could all discuss.
 
ok! I will need to scan them, not easy! But may try to do so, they are about 3000 pages in total, so they are worth a look. There is indeed plenty of stuff that is complementary to Laura's work, if not "exactly" (same concept, different words to express it). For instance, talks a lot about the simultaneous incarnations we are all having, astral projection, the STS control system we live in, etc. As said, for me it was one of the most interesting trilogy of books ever read so far :-)

hugs
David
 
I have read them, and found some of it to be of interest. A big drawback for me was that "the author" seemed very set in his view of himself as a final incarnation who had everything sorted out, and came across as condescending and judgemental in many of his responses to questions in the appendixes of the books.
 
David Topi said:
ok! I will need to scan them, not easy! But may try to do so, they are about 3000 pages in total, so they are worth a look. There is indeed plenty of stuff that is complementary to Laura's work, if not "exactly" (same concept, different words to express it). For instance, talks a lot about the simultaneous incarnations we are all having, astral projection, the STS control system we live in, etc. As said, for me it was one of the most interesting trilogy of books ever read so far :-)

hugs
David
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The scary part is not what is exactly the same in different words, it is where the material bends in different directions or where blatent disinfo is inserted ( see Ark's article) . No need to scan 3,000 pages. Perhaps find something that is complimentary to the work here that elaborates further or a topic that is not covered here, etc. There are forum members here that may have read the whole trilogy and can elaborate much more. I did a search and found a couple f threads where some of the concepts are laid out and they do indeed seem similar. But, as I said, it is the twists that are a concern. As Laura and Anart say, the devil is in the details.
 
Hithere said:
I have read them, and found some of it to be of interest. A big drawback for me was that "the author" seemed very set in his view of himself as a final incarnation who had everything sorted out, and came across as condescending and judgemental in many of his responses to questions in the appendixes of the books.
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agree on this, what about the difference between sequential and simultaneous incarnations? I found that very interesting and it is something that is coming more clear, we are indeed having all our incarnations at once, and I had some experiences about it, via lucid dreaming, where I found myself visiting another simultaneous incarnation of mine in the UK, and a "voice" telling in the dream "see, this is true" :-).
I asked about it to some people that do astral projection or oobes, and they confirmed that when you look for your "higher self" (or any other name you want to use it), you indeed see yourself as having plenty of streams (silver cords) coming out your HS towards all your simultaneous incarnations, or just one stream if you are sequential. That was something pretty interesting to hear from different sources.

regards
David
 
I think there's something on the forum about it. Try searching for "final incarnation" in quotes.
 
I read the Matrix V just before finding the Cass material. I don't remember much about it except two things. The first is that it seemed to have an element of most of the New Age disinfo- i.e. it seemed like channeled material except via his "higher self" and had that kind of addictive channeling effect, the sort that leaves you wanting more but is of no real substance. The other thing I remember is that he seemed extremely mysoginistic and described women in very foul language regularly. I think the general gist was that he was gay and that that meant he was more "spiritually evolved" as he was "no longer divided" or something to that effect. Yes there were hints of the Cassiopaea material. Except that instead of Organic Portals draining the energy of Souled Beings, his take was that nearly all women were vampires and that touching them was to be drained. In spite of this psychopathic take on things I confess to being taken in for a few weeks by the other "ascension stuff". In fact, very recently after discovering the Quantum Future website I foundthis article about him. I was disappointed to learn he was spouting disinfo but I soon buried that sacred cow!
 
EmeraldHope said:
...As Laura and Anart say, the devil is in the details.
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You said it before I could, but it is worth repeating.

Mod's note: Edited to fix the quotation boxes.
 
Don Genaro said:
I read the Matrix V just before finding the Cass material. I don't remember much about it except two things. The first is that it seemed to have an element of most of the New Age disinfo- i.e. it seemed like channeled material except via his "higher self" and had that kind of addictive channeling effect, the sort that leaves you wanting more but is of no real substance. The other thing I remember is that he seemed extremely mysoginistic and described women in very foul language regularly. I think the general gist was that he was gay and that that meant he was more "spiritually evolved" as he was "no longer divided" or something to that effect. Yes there were hints of the Cassiopaea material. Except that instead of Organic Portals draining the energy of Souled Beings, his take was that nearly all women were vampires and that touching them was to be drained. In spite of this psychopathic take on things I confess to being taken in for a few weeks by the other "ascension stuff". In fact, very recently after discovering the Quantum Future website I foundthis article about him. I was disappointed to learn he was spouting disinfo but I soon buried that sacred cow!
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I could not agree more on that, as I thought the same, what I did what putting aside the way he thought and personal stuff of the author (not Val, he is just the publisher) and pretty much starting drawing diagrams and schemes about densities, HS evolutionary methods, incarnations, etc. This was the way I used and why I found those books so much interesting, because the same concepts presented there then started appearing in other books and later on the C's (again, just the concept, not the way it was presented).

But I could not discuss anything with anyone close to me as nobody had read the books. Then I took some courses in astral projection and my teachers started to "confirm" by their own experiences part of the material, so that was indeed a good "sign" that this "universal concepts" was pretty much "correct" in the way I felt it was. So, nice to see some of you here have read the trilogy at least! :-)

hugs
David
 
His take on simultaneous reincarnations vs sequential reincarnations is maybe somewhat reminiscent of "Seth speaks" by Jane Roberts, where Seth speaks of alternative realities that consists of the realities where the choices a person didn't make gets played out. These realities exists simultaneously with our own reincarnation and can bleed through in dreams etc.

Don Genaro: I agree that the author of Matrix V seemed hateful towards all females and glorifying of all male aspects, with homosexuality being a sign of advanced spirituality. I was intrigued the first couple of hundred pages, but got progressively more skeptic and bored as he kept on ranting about "cruel world versus himself". I think I read the whole thing though.
 
We asked about it in this session:
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,18638.0
 
Another thread that touches on the topic:
http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,5758.0.html
 
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