I've been pondering this question for some time now, are STS fools or sages. First of all, you need to ask yourself what is wisdom and what is stupidity. If the STS path is wrong it would mean they are fools because stupidity is wrong thinking and STOs are wise because right thinking is wisdom. But it can also be that wisdom is present on both sides at the same time. I don't know, that's why I'm asking you.
Are STS fools or wise men.
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Here is my 1 cent. It depends on the meaning of the words in your understanding - STS, fool, Sage, wisdom, stupidity , Wrong or right thinking etc.
Whether it is STS or STO, mostly they have souls ( leaving aside 3D OP's, Psychopaths). souls as sparks of the God are eternal have to make choice one way or other to learn or experience life. STS being contractile depends on others through manipulation. STO tries to share/expand knowledge, qualifies for external input (god/information field and so on etc.) What ever may be the path, the incarnate or soul will not have entire banana of creation ( until it reaches 7D), as it violates the purpose of experience itself.
Whether it is STS or STO, mostly they have souls ( leaving aside 3D OP's, Psychopaths). souls as sparks of the God are eternal have to make choice one way or other to learn or experience life. STS being contractile depends on others through manipulation. STO tries to share/expand knowledge, qualifies for external input (god/information field and so on etc.) What ever may be the path, the incarnate or soul will not have entire banana of creation ( until it reaches 7D), as it violates the purpose of experience itself.
Haiku
Jedi Master
Intelligent: Having good understanding or a high mental capacity; quick to comprehend, as persons or animals - Or - Displaying or characterized by quickness of understanding, sound thought, or good judgment:
Wisdom: The quality or state of being wise; knowledge of what is true or right coupled with just judgment as to action; sagacity, discernment, or insight. – or - scholarly knowledge or learning:
Fool: A silly or stupid person; a person who lacks judgment or sense. – or - to trick, deceive, a weak-minded person:
I believe what you will find is that STS are all of these but because of their alignment and contracting life, they screw up but it is a real focused screw up. Why, because they are so into helping themselves that they lose sight of what they are actually doing. It is like the rich man making a calculated guess on a stock market item and loosing bad on it because they kept the knowledge to themselves. If they had spread the knowledge out their damage would have been much less.
STS think the opposite to what we all think like, and like you are thinking right now. they aren’t wanting to help the one beneath them because they might use that knowledge to make themselves better than the source STS individual is. Does it make them dumb or foolish at times, yes but it is part of their lessons that they are working to and nothing else.
Is STO any better, I do not believe so, but they have the ability of sharing the knowledge and getting feedback from others on the best course of action that you can evaluate during the application. This can make a STO individual seem better but that is just a STO point of view. The STS would call this foolish and would only do it to ruin another STS soul.
The STS soul works in a world where they are trying to get to the top of the ladder, and many don’t understand that only the worse can qualify to move forward. Their mistakes make them fools or more fool-like typically because of the size of their mistakes, again that is a STO point of view, not theirs.
What I see is you trying to qualify them using a STO mindset, you can’t do that. They look at the failures as guidance, so they don’t do it again, nothing more. We see it as a foolish attempt to quantify their actions, see. Haiku …
Wisdom: The quality or state of being wise; knowledge of what is true or right coupled with just judgment as to action; sagacity, discernment, or insight. – or - scholarly knowledge or learning:
Fool: A silly or stupid person; a person who lacks judgment or sense. – or - to trick, deceive, a weak-minded person:
I believe what you will find is that STS are all of these but because of their alignment and contracting life, they screw up but it is a real focused screw up. Why, because they are so into helping themselves that they lose sight of what they are actually doing. It is like the rich man making a calculated guess on a stock market item and loosing bad on it because they kept the knowledge to themselves. If they had spread the knowledge out their damage would have been much less.
STS think the opposite to what we all think like, and like you are thinking right now. they aren’t wanting to help the one beneath them because they might use that knowledge to make themselves better than the source STS individual is. Does it make them dumb or foolish at times, yes but it is part of their lessons that they are working to and nothing else.
Is STO any better, I do not believe so, but they have the ability of sharing the knowledge and getting feedback from others on the best course of action that you can evaluate during the application. This can make a STO individual seem better but that is just a STO point of view. The STS would call this foolish and would only do it to ruin another STS soul.
The STS soul works in a world where they are trying to get to the top of the ladder, and many don’t understand that only the worse can qualify to move forward. Their mistakes make them fools or more fool-like typically because of the size of their mistakes, again that is a STO point of view, not theirs.
What I see is you trying to qualify them using a STO mindset, you can’t do that. They look at the failures as guidance, so they don’t do it again, nothing more. We see it as a foolish attempt to quantify their actions, see. Haiku …
STS is contractile, STO is expansive
You can be extremely intelligent in both modes, but remember:
Once you go STO, you don't go back.
So that, in itself, is saying all one needs to know.
Menna
The Living Force
I think there is nuance and specifics here. If a being is STS and can not advance and was created or just is STS with no STO candidacy then yes that being is a fool as that being can’t help being anything but itself. As the C’s says STS are overly subjected to wishful thinking.
However, even fools serve a purpose in the “system” even a narcissist or sociopath can teach an STS - STO candidate something and the overly or strictly STS of the world are here to engage with others and unfortunately from my perspective teach lessons some painful or annoying lessons but the objective is for the STS/STO candidate to gain knowledge and bring it back to its soul group/soul environment for the purpose of…. That I don’t know.
You are and I am STS our bodies need to kill or eat killed things to survive there’s no way around it we have to consume to be…
However, if you have the instruments and gain knowledge and process your lessons you can progress and evolve but one has to live within the 3D STS Earth realm so I believe the objective is to be 51%+ STO in this STS life but we chose to be here so we will have to be STS at times
However, even fools serve a purpose in the “system” even a narcissist or sociopath can teach an STS - STO candidate something and the overly or strictly STS of the world are here to engage with others and unfortunately from my perspective teach lessons some painful or annoying lessons but the objective is for the STS/STO candidate to gain knowledge and bring it back to its soul group/soul environment for the purpose of…. That I don’t know.
You are and I am STS our bodies need to kill or eat killed things to survive there’s no way around it we have to consume to be…
However, if you have the instruments and gain knowledge and process your lessons you can progress and evolve but one has to live within the 3D STS Earth realm so I believe the objective is to be 51%+ STO in this STS life but we chose to be here so we will have to be STS at times
Bastian
The Living Force
Well, are you sure about this ?
To take a famous fictional example, in Star Wars 1/2/3, we can watch Anakin (thought to be the chosen one), going first to Light side, and then, to the Dark side... and becoming Darth Vador (the dark knight ?).
Who knows, maybe that's possible IRL !
It's a fairly simple concept; Easier to be an integral part of a community, than to live "alone".
Dreamweaver
The Force is Strong With This One
I look at Anakin as potential, gets caught up in drinking his own Kool aid and starts down that route. He became fixated on the physical and started swimming against the current, ends up fulfilling the negative prophecy he was fixated on.
Now once it goes downhill for him, there's still that little Annie in him, his potential, that was buried. He ran with the dark side through the movies till nearly his end, where he sees the light once again. From there he switches perspective/timelines whatever you wanna call it, once he dies he's shown as a force ghost, the potential making it too the highest pinnacle of spirit that we're shown within that universe via the movies.
I think both would consider the other foolish, as they are both opposite ends of the spectrum. Sts using their powers more for personal gain with manipulation of the physical and it's inhabitants, while sto is working more detached in the abstract, seeing the foolishness/harm of full commitment to the dark side.
Now I would see each individual as a collection of archetypes each one with its positive/negative sides and each at different points of their development/potential. A proper understanding of the extremes of both sides while striking the balance physically, boots on the ground in order to utilize ones physical skills in order to contribute aswell as mentally/spiritually in order to stay above the problem giving one the higher ground.
Don't run out the clock with your head stuck in the clouds, and don't tunnel vision yourself with all the shiny stuff down here in pursuit of it.
Something like that in a roundabout way.
Nice to see you all again
BlueKiwi
Jedi Master
I think it depends on the context you are pondering from
If you consider from an STS perspective, sharing knowledge is stupidity. Better to keep all knowledge gained to yourself, so as not to give others an advantage over you.
From an STO perspective sharing knowledge is wise, so you can help others, and yourself too.
STS would think STO is stupid and unwise, and vice-versa I think
If you consider from an STS perspective, sharing knowledge is stupidity. Better to keep all knowledge gained to yourself, so as not to give others an advantage over you.
From an STO perspective sharing knowledge is wise, so you can help others, and yourself too.
STS would think STO is stupid and unwise, and vice-versa I think
I think it depends on what you define as foolish or wise, and your point of view.
But I concur with the above, foolishness or wisdom aren't exclusive to either STS or STO. You can be a wise STS or a foolish STO and viceversa, so it depends on how you define Wisdom and Foolishness. I think that's where you might find the answer to this question.
