Autoimmune Thyroid -Hashimoto's Disease

Breo

Breo

The Living Force
I was diagnosed Hashimoto thyroiditis a year ago. The doctor offered me homeopathy, which had no effect. It took me a while to notice my symptoms that are connected: headaches/migraines, sleeping problems, fatigue, low mood especially in dark rainy weather, pressure and tension in the neck and throat, sometimes my bones hurt, oversensitivity.

I started detoxification, then gluten/soy/casein/soy/sugar free diet. And to practice ÉE since about 4 months which both help me a lot! Then I read about 5-HTP and since 2 weeks I take it, which lifts my mood significantly.

Just now I read: http://www.virginiahopkinstestkits.com/womenarticles.html

which has a lot of helpful tests and articles.

Does anybody have experience in how to approach this issue?
 
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Breo said:
Does anybody have experience in how to approach this issue?
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Hiya Breo,

I don't have any personal experience with 'Hashimoto thyroiditis" ...but I did find a thread where it's connected to Candida
http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=9796.msg71542#msg71542

Hope this helps a bit :-)
 
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Hi Breo,

I was diagnosed with Hashimoto thyroiditis a couple of weeks ago, too. I had searched up the forum and found this interesting post:
http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=12458.msg182026#msg182026

Make sure to check also the post above and beneath and also the referred links Psyche got these from, there are much more interesting infos to read.

Also, you might want to take supplements of Selenium/Selene, which I am doing right now. The dietary changes should be also a step
in the right direction. I haven't done any detoxification yet though, this one is on my To-Do list.

I am not sure about taking thyroid hormones or substitutes thereof really help the situation, I personally am very sceptical, though I am
giving it a try right now, to see if there is some improvement nevertheless.

I hope I could give some help/hints here (though I could use some myself as well) :)
 
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http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=9796.msg71542#msg71542

Hope this helps a bit :-)
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Thanks, Gardian! I´m going through the material right now.



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wow....what timing! I was just going to post this amazingly informative thyroid site (best out there IMHO) and wasn't sure where, under books or diet and health.
I HIGHLY recommend reading everything on the site AND buying the book. I too am dealing with thyroid issues and these resources have been invaluable.
knowledge protects!
http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/

another very informative site
http://www.drrind.com/
 
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http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=12458.msg182026#msg182026
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Thank you for the link! From there I will read myself now through all the other connected threads. Great information.

Odysseus said:
Also, you might want to take supplements of Selenium/Selene, which I am doing right now.
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Yes, Selen is on my list. Do you know about quantities?

Odysseus said:
The dietary changes should be also a step in the right direction. I haven't done any detoxification yet though, this one is on my To-Do list.
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Quoted from the other thread:
"What the vast majority of hypothyroidism patients need to understand is that they don't have a problem with their thyroid, they have a problem with their immune system attacking the thyroid. This is crucial to understand..."

Hashimoto’s often manifests as a “polyendocrine autoimmune pattern”. This means that in addition to having antibodies to thyroid tissue, it’s not uncommon for Hashimoto’s patients to have antibodies to other tissues or enzymes as well. The most common are transglutaminase (Celiac disease), the cerebellum (neurological disorders), intrinsic factor (pernicious anemia), glutamic acid decarboxylase (anxiety/panic attacks and late onset type 1 diabetes)."
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Diet seems absolutely essential in curing. For me it makes a huge difference. Now I stopped coffee too for good, (hopefully the last of my evil foods...) and I feel so much better!! I had 2-3 tough days, headakes and extrem weakness, but as it was over, now I am more consistent and clear.

With 5-HTP I started 2 weeks ago, it makes a big uplift in my mood too. With it I take Magnesium chelate, Vitamin B and Vitamin C.

Read here:
http://www.health-matrix.net/2010/09/03/boosting-your-happy-brain-chemistry-with-5-htp/

Have you read about Pomegranate Oil capsules. I found the link here on the forum and repost it for you: http://www.pomegranatehealth.com/product/Hormone%20Heresy.aspx
I take them since 2 months, I can not specify their effect. I feels right to take them. As cosmetics I started with pomegranate oil in combination with grapefruit oil for the face and throat, which wakes and strengthens me in the morning. Its a product from our local health food store.

I am not sure about taking thyroid hormones or substitutes thereof really help the situation, I personally am very sceptical, though I am
giving it a try right now, to see if there is some improvement nevertheless.
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Next I will start with progesterone cream. Now that is new to me. Alltogether the thread about adrenal fatigue speaks to me a lot! Its a puzzle, on piece after the other makes the picture clearer. Take care : )
 
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yes adrenal fatigue often goes hand in hand with thyroid issues and this relationship is unfortunately unrecognized but low cortisol must be addressed for thyroid treatment to be optimal. The adrenals often become fatigued from longterm untreated hypothyroid (or from injury, autoimmune problems, pituatary/hypothalamus problems) but adrenal fatigue isn't recognized except as extreme "dysfunction" states like cushings or addisons within the medical community bc that's all they're taught to recognize in med school.
With low cortisol levels, cells cannot uptake T3 (the active thyroid hormone, the same with low ferritin levels) so hypothyroid symptoms persist on medication (and btw, TSH tests often do not reflect the reality of hypothyroid symptoms) as well as adrenal fatigue symptoms that appear hyper. A free T3 count will show high in blood tests with low cortisol and doctors will decrease thyroid meds bc they see the high T3 count and hyper symptoms of adrenal fatigue. There are some home tests you can do youself to give you a good clue if you suffer from adrenal fatigue.

http://www.stopthethyroidmadness.com/adrenal-info/
 
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Wow, thanks for those links chachazoom, there is quite some new/complementary information and very good hints what to look out for and how to narrow down your own individual thyroiditis issue per se and what steps to take to solve it.

I also found out in the process of checking the links and researching, a doctor in my vicinity who seems to be on top regarding autoimmune thyroiditis disease(s). Prescriptions are made by him also on an individual basis for natural thyroid hormone extracts in individually appropriate T3:T4 analogies (wherever applicable) and in cooperation with particular pharmacies, who prepare those natural hormone mixtures. I will definitely arrange for an appointment and see how things evolve. :thup:

About Selene quantities, Breo:
I am taking 1 tablet (50mcg if my mind serves right) per day before going to sleep. Intakes in the range 50-150mcg seem to be ok, but excessive intakes (around 400mcg) become toxic. I stick to the one tablet for now, as I should have also adequate intakes from regular food/nutrition in nuts, especially pecan nuts, sesame and from coconuts. There are further Selene sources from food as well, but these are my favorites, as I have them on a regular basis.
 
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Glad you found a good doctor that is knowedgeable about natural thyroid treatment. The book explains how this was the successful way to treat thyroid conditions in the past and why/how it changed.
I too found a thyroid specialist N.P and M.D. but I can't get in to see him until Aug next year! Oh well there's plenty I can do for myself in the meantime starting with insisting on specific blood tests, diet changes and fine tuning supplements. I increased my B's and selenium and always ingest lots of vitamin c anyways. There's so many variables, it's pinpointing and balancing.

check out this site too for those in need
http://www.thyroid-info.com/topdrs/
 
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I am a bit behind in reading and went through "stopthethyroidmadness" now: Indeed VERY helpful and empowering, thank you!!

I begin to realize the complexity of the issue, so I am quite dumb still in interpreting the correlation of all the different factors. When I have been diagnosed a year ago, the doctor said: "Lets see and watch." which seems to be a common reaction to hide that "We don't have a clue." So I neglected it, (has been an extra demanding year on all levels, directly related to "the work/wave"). Slowly symptoms worsened in the background.

Only now I start to focus on the thyroid and feel a bit overwhelmend. How to organize the whole thing, seems to be the first thing to address to? Do you think that dealing with the disease without a decent doctor is possible, for a start or the long run...? I did not find one in my area (not US). Should I start with the tests on my own? Will I be able to interpret the results accordingly? Or is it better to focus first on finding a med and start to work on it together? What are your experiences?

From reading the material I understand, that the intake of a natural thyroid hormone (some of them have now microcellulose added...gluten reaction?) is the basis of all treatments. Is that correct?

Thanks for the Selen amounts, Odysseus. This I'll start now.
 
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you could try this if all else fails or if you feel inclined to try.
_http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/urine_untoldstory.htm
 
I believe there are different bases for natural thyroid. I recommend ordering the book. If you cannot find a top thyroid doctor in your area, you will be VERY informed so keep looking until you find a doctor with an open mind who is willing to work with you. The book outlines and explains EVERYTHING. It's a patient to patient book and I cannot sing its praises enough. Will avoid years of potential misery. Start by reading. (Since I can't get in to see the thyroid doctor form top docs site until Aug. 2011, I am going into my family MD and insisting on specific blood tests which I learned from the book, that are necessary for an more accurate picture and which are almost always overlooked)
 
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I believe there are different bases for natural thyroid. I recommend ordering the book. If you cannot find a top thyroid doctor in your area, you will be VERY informed so keep looking until you find a doctor with an open mind who is willing to work with you. The book outlines and explains EVERYTHING. It's a patient to patient book and I cannot sing it's praises enough. Will avoid years of potential misery. Start by reading. (Since I can't get in to see the thyroid doctor form top docs site until Aug. 2011, I am going into my family MD and insisting on specific blood tests which I learned from the book, that are necessary for an more accurate picture and which are almost always overlooked)
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Thanks for the input. I ordered the book :)
 
You've probably also heard of Dr David Brownstein ... seems to be one of the gurus determined to get down to earth info into the hands of the public -
 
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