Banking excess may save us from the police state

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Banking excess may save us from the police state
Andrew Gilligan
16.10.08


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THIS week, we witnessed the hopefully permanent collapse of not one but two discredited philosophies based on excess, unaccountability and greed. On the very same day that a once-rampant financial establishment found itself on state welfare, the rampant British security establishment suffered its own, equally deserved humiliation.

As the Government surveys the wreckage of its long struggle to imprison people for 42 days without charge, the defeat should bring a re-think on security every bit as profound and as necessary as the one about finance a few ministries to the east.

The bankers took risks with our economy out of corporate and personal greed for profits, bonuses and sports cars. But the securocrats risked something even more important, our very freedom as a society, out of political and bureaucratic greed for power, results and the imprimatur of toughness.

The bankers blindsided us with incomprehensible financial instruments. The securocrats traded in off-the-record mumblings about unspecified dastardly threats. Whenever the alleged threats were scrutinised in court, or by a judicial inquiry such as Lord Butler's, they always turned out somewhat less dastardly than claimed.

It all started with the security industry's own, only too horribly literal Big Bang September 11, 2001. Exactly as al Qaeda planned, 9/11 led the Government down a slippery slope, gradually dismantling ever more of the liberal, democratic state the terrorists so loathed.

So they gave us control orders where first foreign, and then British, nationals could be locked up indefinitely without even knowing the evidence against them. They gave us extraordinary rendition; the CIA snatch planes, taking suspects to be tortured, used British soil, despite repeated ministerial denials.

They gave us no-proof-required asset confiscation orders, which ended up being used against Icelandic banks; no-evidence-needed extradition treaties which ended up being used against people in the City; and detention powers which ended up being used against peaceful demonstrators, such as a pensioner who shouted "Shame" during the Labour conference.

Above all, they kept trying to give us extended detention-without-charge, the everlasting Duracell bunny of anti-terror legislation, the one based not on the European Convention on Human Rights but on the Wile E Coyote Law of Cartoon Physics (every time it was flattened in a head-on collision with Parliament, it would simply pop straight back to life).

The power was first demanded, as 90 days, in August 2005. It was excessive; no other democracy asked for anything like it. The struggle has consumed more than three years of ministerial and official time. And at no point over that period has any minister or official ever been able convincingly to explain why.

It has damaged two prime ministers, three home secretaries and a Metropolitan Police commissioner, Sir Ian Blair, whose decision to send his officers into the Commons to lobby for 90 days marked the beginning of the end for him.

Just as the financial crisis is raising Gordon Brown's stock, at least for now, so the 7/7 bombings briefly restored Tony Blair's authority. But within weeks the then PM had squandered the mood of national unity, and his own revival, by playing politics over 90 days.

It has caused more important damage to the entire system, alienating the law enforcement authorities from the people whose co-operation they need, and undermining their credibility. Because the police spent too much of their time campaigning for harsher powers, it made necessary and justified arrests look like part of the campaign, even if they weren't.

At least the banks made a few people rich. By the Government's own admission, its anti-terror measures have made no difference at all to the terrorist threat level, which remains "severe", meaning that an attack is "highly likely". There has also, according to MI5, been a "significant growth in the number of people involved in Islamist extremism".

Nor is extended detention the only part of the state's security philosophy to collapse. All the other measures I mentioned are gradually being unravelled, too, by the courts, by media exposés and by their sheer impracticality. Control orders have been downgraded to house arrest. It has become harder to lay out the welcome mat for torture flights.

Detention without charge, a policy designed almost entirely to make politicians look tough, has ended up instead making them look stupid. It is the third rail of British politics; anyone who touches it ends up hurt. It exemplifies how anti-terror policy has come to rest on the totally mistaken focus of demanding ever more powers and passing ever more laws: not just wrong in principle but at best a distraction, at worst an impediment, to the real struggle.

The battle against terrorism must be fought in hearts and minds, schools, mosques and prisons, and the best weapon against its manifestations is the ordinary criminal law. Terrorism thrives on a sense of persecution; we must deny it that dignity. The new philosophy must focus not on grand, divisive attempts to seize blanket powers, treating everyone as a suspect, but on boring, proportionate street-level policing and intelligence-gathering.

But does the security establishment realise that its old approach is bankrupt, and it's time to stop? I'm not sure it does. Even as the Home Secretary conceded defeat over 42 days, she said another attack could bring it back out for yet another run around the course. And even as they licked their wounds, the securocrats unveiled their grandest Big Brother project yet, a £12 billion database of everyone's calls and emails.

Quite apart from the privacy invasion, it is surely mad to search for a few dozen terrorists by swamping yourself with billions of messages sent by the innocent. The Government is about to add an enormous haystack to its collection of needles.

It may, in the end, be the excesses of the bankers that save us from the excesses of the police state. Buying RBS and HBOS won't leave much over for email databases, ID cards and the other horrors on the Home Office wish-list. And now Gordon has a real economic crisis to be Churchillian about, he won't need a security blanket to make him look tough.
 
I'm not sure I go along with the general premise of this article. It seems to suggest that it was 'one big accident' which theatens to undermine the PTB.

On the contrary, it seems to be completely pre-planned and manufactured, and completely furthers the already known agenda of complete control. It will be used as a justification for more centralised power, seizing of the money system, and ultimately a nearly infinitely powerful fascist state, as layed out in some detail in the Protocols (written 100 years ago, mind you), and as mentioned in the latest Signs 'Connect the dots' article.
 
The author has managed to only get so far, he seems to know something is wrong, but seems to think that we are under attack from the 'terrorists'
I e-mailed a comment to the publication in the comments section pointing out that we are in a 'War OF Terror' which is manufactured by the British government and directed at the people to instill fear into them, thereby creating in them a sense of panic where they will happily welcome the police state
 
Poor Mr Gilligan doesn't seem to realise that he's already living in a Police State. He's a bit :zzz: in my opinion.

Maybe he's dreaming of his own island? ;D
 
Exactly as al Qaeda planned, 9/11 led the Government down a slippery slope, gradually dismantling ever more of the liberal, democratic state the terrorists so loathed.

He's certainly got the main point over though, that Al-Qaeda planned 9/11, whatever the rest of the article says.

And wasn't Andrew Gilligan the journalist involved with the late Dr David Kelly story?
 
This article is of the disinformation variety. The police state is the excess of the bankers. The Central Banks, coordinated by The Bank for International Settlements(BIS) in Switzerland on behalf a few predatory bloodlines is advancing the police state, as outlined in Naomi Klein's book, Shock Doctrine. The collapse of the financial system prepares stunned humanity to accept absolute control of body, mind, and soul. I will follow with some quotes and a link that offers some clues on the nature of the relationship between the banking system and the advancing slave state on this suffering planet.

http://www.augustreview.com/issues/global_banking/global_banking%3a_the_bank_for_international_settlements_200510147/

August Review said:
It is not necessary to jump to conclusions as to the intent of these elite bankers, so we will instead defer to the insight of renowned Georgetown historian, Carroll Quigley:

"The Power of financial capitalism had another far reaching plan, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalistic fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the system was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basle, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks, which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank, in the hands of men like Montagu Norman of the Bank of England, Benjamin Strong of the New York Federal Reserve Bank, Charles Rist of the Bank of France, and Hjalmar Schacht of the Reichsbank, sought to dominate its government by its ability to control treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence co-operative politicians by subsequent rewards in the business world."4

Here is a list of the Board of Directors of BIS. I notice Alan Greenspan is on the list, acting on behalf
of forces unseen and unknown to the general public. August Review exposes many of the mechanisms
of economic control that are not discussed in the media or academia, if you are interested, there is an
archive of material, detailing and informing all interested in knowledge of this subject.

August Review said:
The board of directors consist of the heads of certain member central banks. Currently, these are:

Nout H E M Wellink, Amsterdam (Chairman of the Board of Directors)
Hans Tietmeyer, Frankfurt am Main (Vice-Chairman)
Axel Weber, Frankfurt am Main
Vincenzo Desario, Rome
Antonio Fazio, Rome
David Dodge, Ottawa
Toshihiko Fukui, Tokyo
Timothy F Geithner, New York
Alan Greenspan, Washington
Lord George, London
Hervé Hannoun, Paris
Christian Noyer, Paris
Lars Heikensten, Stockholm
Mervyn King, London
Guy Quaden, Brussels
Jean-Pierre Roth, Zürich
Alfons Vicomte Verplaetse, Brussels16

I recall the Cassiopeans mentioning that economics is the control mechanism.

August Review said:
Our credo is "Follow the money, follow the power." This report has endeavored to follow the money. We find that:

The BIS is central bank to all major central banks in the world
It is privately owned by central banks themselves, most of whom are also private
It was founded under questionable circumstances by questionable people
It is accountable to no one, especially government bodies
It operates in complete secrecy and is inviolable
Movement of money is obscured and hidden when routed through the BIS
The BIS is targeting regional currency blocks and ultimately, a global currency
It has been hugely successful at building the New International Economic Order, along with its attendant initiatives on global governance.
As to "follow the power," another paper will more fully explore the influence of power that the BIS exerts over other banks, nations and governments. For your own consideration in the meantime, Proverbs 22:7 provides a useful compass: "The rich rule over the poor, and the borrower is servant to the lender".
 
bedower said:
And wasn't Andrew Gilligan the journalist involved with the late Dr David Kelly story?

Interesting bloke this Gilligan. I wonder if he was being used as a "staw man"?

Here's his BBC Profile:

_http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3082323.stm
 
go2 said:
Here is a list of the Board of Directors of BIS. I notice Alan Greenspan is on the list, acting on behalf
of forces unseen and unknown to the general public. August Review exposes many of the mechanisms
of economic control that are not discussed in the media or academia, if you are interested, there is an
archive of material, detailing and informing all interested in knowledge of this subject.

Well this brings everything that has been happening in the US financial catastrophe into perspective.

I knew that Greenspan has been manipulating the current crisis, but with all of this on BIS, it finally all falls into place. Greenspan has been manipulating the economy for this purpose, just as has been done by others in other countries. That is why the domino effect in financial collapse around the globe.

Geesh! (smacks forehead with palm) It's all right there in plain sight. And even though I have read about it and knew this was an orchestrated event, it never really "clicked" until now.

Thanks for the info, go2.
 

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