Bible Code II

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Am sure people on this forum will have heard of Dr. Rips and his discovery that the Torah is some kind of mathematical blueprint etc, etc... anyone here give it credence?!

I first read the two Bible Codes a few years back (before I 'woke up' let's say!) Having just re-read it (Bible Code II) last night, it seems there's something to it after all!

Am off to bed just now, but thoughts on this would be most welcome,

G'night spiritpeople :)

Neil
 
Hi Neil,

With a long enough text, and the Bible is certainly that, you can find all sorts of "hidden codes".

What have you found that seems like "something"?
 
If you read revelations backwards I hear it contains an excellent receipe for Cassoulet, and the lyrics to half the songs by NIN...But you have to run it thought a pig latin translator first, which is nice.
 
I have to agree with Henry. Within any long book, codes can be found. In fact, I read somewhere that some people had analyzed Moby Dick and a few other longer books - and they did indeed find many codes. :)
 
We have the program that does it which Ark got from one of the researchers at the uni in Tel Aviv. We've played with it a bit and used it on different texts, and it is basically an arbitrary system that you can keep changing the parameters until you get what you want. And, because of the way you can set the parameters, you can almost always get something!
 
starsailor said:
Am sure people on this forum will have heard of Dr. Rips and his discovery that the Torah is some kind of mathematical blueprint etc, etc... anyone here give it credence?!
I do not know if this is what you are looking for, but regarding interpretations of the Torah the works of Carlo Suares are illuminating. You may look to www.psyche.com for this other viewpoint on how to interpret scripture. It's worth examining, in my view.
 
Carlo Suares said:
We have repeatedly stated that the letters of the Hebrew alphabet have always been, throughout the centuries, the foundation of the true tradition and the only key to the knowledge of the Hebrew Revelation. Carlo Suares, Cipher of Genesis, p.32
That's pretty much what Stan Tenen has been onto for quite some time. I recently had an exchange with him about his work and he said:

Stan Tenen said:
Another benchmark. This is no longer "Stan's theory." We've recovered
the audit trail. We know when these ideas were last known, and how they got
buried. So now, we have the scholarship and the historical record behind us
also, and I no longer have to defend this as something I've made up or read
into the data.
I wrote back for details just the other day so know no more at present.

After researching the history of the Hebrew Alphabet, I would not be at all surprised to learn that it was hyperdimensionally influenced. But then, of course, the real question is: who or what were the real, "original," Hebrews? And what sort of source were they interacting with when they came up with some of this stuff?

I've speculated a lot about the origins of the Jews in Secret History and dug up as much data as I could (with help from QFG researchers, there's so much, no one could do it alone!). I have put additional research that was dug up AFTER Secret History was written in the Nostradamus, Edgar Cayce series and then, there is some really astonishing things I have found within the Bible itself that I will be publishing in an upcoming book, "The Horns of Moses," that I'm just not gonna talk about yet.

Anyway, I'll have a look at the above site, though my experience of Kabbalists and Qabbalists has been pretty much what Umberto Eco describes, a lot of obsessive playing and self-referencing with no real meat. I got a much bigger kick out of discovering that the word Hendaye, when pronounced by a native French speaker, sounded exactly like Onde (wave) and the sudden realization as to why Fulcanelli added his Hendaye chapter, and realizing what Cabala is, and its true usefulness in terms of transmitting secret information by way of puns, than I have ever gotten from the laborious exertions of any Kabbalist.
 
It is similar to the works of Stan Tenen, although I have found it much easier to apply. I’ve been studying it for about six years now, at first just to see where it would take me, and it just kept getting deeper and deeper so I kept going. I agree with Eco and yourself regarding most Kabbalists/Qabbalists.

The value in Suares’ interpretation, in my view, is that it provides a concise key to approaching the Torah and other biblical scriptures in a new way. The premise is that the Torah was written as a continuous string of pictograms. Word separation and punctuation were added after the fact. These are some of my own thoughts on the matter:

Personally, I believe the Torah to be a far older revelation grafted onto a local culture, and eventually defining that culture. I believe the revelation was literally branded onto the culture because there were already prevalent psychopathic elements trying to stamp it out. In other words, the culture was purposefully defined by the code as opposed to the truth underlying it.

Thus, it was assured that the psychopathic elements of the culture themselves would protect the camouflaged revelation until humanity was in a position to decode it once again. I believe the Hebrews as the “chosen” people were a socially engineered people, chosen in fact to be guardians of a far older tradition masked within a lie.

Those who transmitted the revelation to this culture coded it in such a way as to be pathocratically conductive in the hope that pathocrats themselves would preserve it. The code pattern is a bit like a form of cryptography where words are bunched together and the letters separated to form meanings completely different from the original array.

Given the multidimensional and non-linear nature of the meanings of the letters, the original oral tradition could probably be modified enough to be reconverted to a somewhat coherent coded text. This would explain why the literal Hebrew bible is a piss-poor literary work, full of foolish folk tales, yet appealing to pathocrats.

I believe this cryptographic tradition continued as more elements were added to the written tradition, and these may have all been revised at the time of Ezra (during the Babylonian captivity), which was probably a first attempt to organize these coded works into a singular opus or set of books.

The tradition could easily have continued to the time of the destruction of Jerusalem by the Romans, and was more than likely known within at least some Essene esoteric circles. It is interesting that there were apocryphal books that allegedly held truths that common people could not understand and would certainly misunderstand, and the originals of these works have all been lost.

The only work from the apocryphal tradition that was not lost was the Sepher Yetzirah, whose oldest copy dates from the 3rd century ACE (if I am not mistaken), but which may have been derived from a far older and now lost original, which may itself have evolved over time from an oral tradition.

I have attempted to transliterate the Hebrew letter meanings in epigrammatic terms and substitute directly into biblical text, and was quite amazed at the results.

Apparently, the modern form of the letters (the Ezra script) was developed during the 5th or 6th century BCE in Babylon. The original script was more angular, combining the meanings of pictograms into a phonetically based array of symbols, very similar to Phoenician.

The Sepher Yetzirah (Book of Formation) seems to be a decoding key of the Hebrew letters, and geometrically orients them in three-dimensions, interconnecting them in a complex manner. It also hints at decoding the letters in pairs (which it calls the 231 gates of wisdom). The two-dimensional traditional tree of life, on the other hand, was a product of the Kabbalistic/Qabbalistic tradition of the middle ages, which was undeniably corrupt and wanting in terms of the roots of the tradition.

I believe the understanding of the multidimensional nature of the symbols challenges the mind to function in a new way, in a transcendent manner if you will. The information from the psyche.com site has helped me get into the groove, as it were, but I have since condensed the letter interpretations so as to substitute directly into Hebrew words.

I also find that the Cube of Space is better depicted as a sphere, the 3D matrix where the letters orient with respect to each other. Exploring the meanings of certain words is revealing, and the deep interdimensional roots of the symbols often is revealed by anecdotal and synchronistic associations, as you noted.

An very simple example of the extent of meaning of Hebrew words is the word Teth (written TTh), which means serpent. It is also the word for the ninth letter T. The pre-Ezra glyph is a cross within a circle. The Tau or Th, is represented by a cross or seal, and also means sanctuary and covenant. Thus, the combined glyph, representing “serpent” is a serpent on a cross, or a serpent coiled around a sanctuary or covenant.

In Greek mythology Tethys was a Titan, and also the ocean encircling the Earth. In three dimensions it is akin to the serpent surrounding the cosmic egg. Similarly, the primal symbol for the Earth is a cross within a circle. It is also similar to the serpent surrounding the world tree in Norse mythology. Given that the tree of life was depicted as a sphere (or at least a 3D axial orientation), it is not farfetched to say that the tree intertwined with the serpent is the Earth, or what the earth fundamentally represents.

If we continue the associations, a three dimensional volume can be described as a tree if it has a fractal (branching) nature. The form of a tree's branches may outline a sphere, and the branches themselves do have a fractal structure. The serpent/ocean can also be seen as a wave-generating medium, and in particular a biogenic one.

Indeed, when you add the corresponding numbers of T and Th, you come up with 13, the number for the letter Mem (40), which means “the waters”, and according to Suares, the medium of response. This also condenses to 4, the number of Daleth (D), which is the feminine delta/vulva and signifies reverberation or resistance/response according to Suares.

Thus, the serpent is a wave-generating medium entwined around a fractal structure, which includes it. One is tempted to come up with a wave/particle association here, and identify the serpent as a quantized wave.

In any case, I have found such explorations revealing to say the least. In addition, www.psyche.com has an extensive links section worth checking out.
 
Hi folks,

sorry about the late response... upon reflection, the Bible Code aint so 'wow' after all! Am glad to see Laura and Ark have checked out the program used by Rips. There are a couple of things tho...

"[Francis] Crick said that our DNA was intentionally sent here in a 'spaceship'..."

- p.145, BCII

The author then follows this line of thinking 'till he arrives at a "steel ark" or what-have-you buried in the shores of the Dead Sea... sensational to him, but ear-pricking to those who operate along hyper-dimensional lines!

Another subject altogether: Has anyone at QFS met/worked with Micheal Tsarion?!
 
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