Blackfish

Mal7

Dagobah Resident
Blackfish is a documentary made in 2013 about Orca or Killer Whales (although they are actually dolphins) in the marine park Seaworld, and presents I think a compelling case about how unsuited they are to a life in captivity.

Seaworld comes across as a business where Public Relations is everything, and the real truth is to be avoided, even when the safety of their trainers is at stake. In that respect, I think it could be taken as an example of what goes on in many other corporations and governments also, not just marine parks.

The documentary interviews many ex-trainers who used to work for Seaworld, and covers the deaths of some trainers at Seaworld and whether they were really "trainer error" or "accidents" or on the other hand deliberate acts by killer whales that had become psychotic through their life in captivity. (There are no known reports of wild orca attacking humans, although they do eat seals.)

Other interesting interviews are with a man who worked on an OSHA (Occupational Safety and Health Authority) legal case against Seaworld, and with a man who caught a young Orca from a pod of adults back in the 1980s, and now considers it the worst thing he ever did.

It also presents evidence about the strong family bonds orcas have, their intelligence, and suggests they may even have a strong emotional life.

The documentary maker didn't come from any animal rights background or any particular organization like PETA or SAFE, but began the film to try and answer the question of what really happened in the death of Seaworld trainer Dawn Brancheau in 2010.

_http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2545118/?ref_=nv_sr_1
 
It is a really harrowing film, and I cannot see how anyone with conscience can justify keeping orca, other dolphins or any of their relatives in captivity. The descriptions of the early days, the first capture of orcas and the primitive conditions of the park which existed before Seaworld are just heartbreaking, but it didn't get much better between then and the present day.
 
watched last night. completely disgusted. My whole family lives in Florida and we've been going to the Orlando theme parks since the 80's. I made them watch this, and needless to say SeaWorld will not be getting a penny more from any of us. Were absolutely ashamed to realize how naïve we've been. How... why were we so blind?? Disgusted and outraged!! :cry:
 
I haven't watched it yet, though it's definitely on my list. I've been following its developments since the trailer came out, and it has been gaining some popularity, which I think is great as more people are aware now of what goes on behind the scenes at SeaWorld. Hopefully more people will also be more vigilant when it comes to other theme parks. It is truly sickening what they do to these beautiful animals, I would not be surprised if theme parks like these are run by psychopaths.

Delizco said:
How... why were we so blind?? Disgusted and outraged!! :cry:

I can relate :( As usual they try to show how healthy and happy the animals are with their commercials and whatnot's, and try to deceive and lie to people this way.
 
Watched it on numerous occasions. 1st in horror & then to my horror, cheering the whale's revenge. :evil: I admit not a good feeling. However just imagining what these magnificent animals must be going through since their capture/creation makes me sick as a "sentient" being. Being raised in an environment where wild dolphins & whales pass through, encounters with them in their natural home changes something in you. Saw my 1st whale @ 8 and have never been the same. Our fishing vessel was surrounded by a pod of 20+ individuals that swam alongside us for about 15 minutes. All I could think about was the story of Moby Dick. Frightened by the size of the humpbacks, I looked over the side of our fishing boat. A baby whale turned on its side and its huge eye looked into my eyes and blinked. My little mind knew, this was another intelligent being watching back at me and without effort could have destroyed our 25' boat without effort.

In my home Coral World, VI Inc. is trying their level best to put a dolphinaruim in our already waste infected & polluted waters. They have paid off the policymakers of the Virgin Islands as well as heads of the Tourism Industry to include tax drives, etc. FYI http://virginislandsdailynews.com/op-ed/senators-dolphinarium-hearing-disrespects-the-people-1.1577816. There has been a massive people campaign against this, however as a colony, the people only have the oversight of the US Government to turn to besides engaging in civil disobedience.

If you are interested, there is another view of my hometown that you may enjoy, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54aPmBnAj00.
 
I was able to find the time to finally watch this documentary. It certainly is an eye-opener. Heartbreaking too. Those who are interested can read this article on the topic of whale/dolphin captivity:

https://www.sott.net/article/320111-SOTT-Exclusive-The-cruelty-of-capturing-dolphins-and-orcas-and-using-them-for-entertainment

Mal7 said:
The documentary interviews many ex-trainers who used to work for Seaworld, and covers the deaths of some trainers at Seaworld and whether they were really "trainer error" or "accidents" or on the other hand deliberate acts by killer whales that had become psychotic through their life in captivity. (There are no known reports of wild orca attacking humans, although they do eat seals.)

Exactly. In the case of dolphins, there even have been reports of them rescuing people. Also, what the neuroscientist said was interesting, I found an interview with her here:

Q: What are some characteristics that set killer whale brains apart from human brains? In ‘Blackfish’, you and the other scientists mention that a particular area of the orca brain is enlarged.

A: If you look at the limbic system — the emotion-processing area in all mammal brains — you find something really interesting. There’s some parts of the limbic system of dolphins and whales that have changed and actually gotten smaller, but there are other parts of it that are adjacent areas that are much larger and more elaborate than in the human brain. That area is called the paralimbic region.

So they have like an extra lobe of tissue that sort of sits adjacent to their limbic system and their neocortex. And, you know, you can infer from that. That lobe has something to do with processing emotions, but also something to do with thinking. It’s very highly elaborated in most cetaceans and not at all or not nearly as much in humans or other mammals, so it suggests that there’s something that evolved or adapted in that brain over time that did not occur in other mammals, including humans. [...]

So if that part of the orca brain is doing what it should be doing, as it does in all mammals — that is, processing emotions — it suggests [that] these animals are doing something very sophisticated or complex while they’re processing emotions. And I think also when you look at behavior of dolphins and whales, especially in the wild, you see a level of social cohesion that is really unmatched in other mammals including the humans. [...]

When one animal is sick and heads to the shore, why does the whole group do that? Or in the case of [some male orcas], if the mom dies they may die as well. They stop eating and go into some sort of a clinical depression and die. Not all of them but some have. We’ve observed this. What is that? What is that sort of social cohesion they have? [...]

[In previous studies] they showed capacities in understanding symbolic language, in memory, in problem-solving, in visual perspective. Diana Reise and I showed that bottlenose dolphins recognize themselves in mirrors. They show all of these capacities that are pretty rare in the animal kingdom.

And again, when you look at the field work, you see it’s supported by their cultures, their [tool use], the sophistication of their social networks. All of the lines of evidence converge on the idea that these are very intelligent animals.

Here's a tidbit from a C's session that I found fascinating:

September 20, 1997

Q: I want to start off tonight with a question that has been bugging me all week: I want to know why whales sing?
A: Communication.
Q: They sing to communicate. I kind of figured that. Is this an elaborate and complicated form of communication?
A: Yes.
Q: Is it as complicated as a spoken language such as what we know?
A: More so.
Q: Is there any key you could give us as to how to interpret this language?
A: You would need to think in an entirely different way.
Q: What way would this be? Is it an image based language, or is it tone based? Do the tones evoke images or concepts and ideas?
A: It is psionic/practical wave modulation through flange scopotic transmission.
Q: Could you define your use of psionic for me?
A: Seeing, hearing, feeling, absorption and response in simultaneous thought wave profile.
Q: Okay. What do whales talk about?
A: Not correct concept.
Q: What is the correct concept?
A: Total thought transference.
Q: What subjects interest whales enough that they exert energy to transfer those thoughts?
A: No need for "subjects" when one has total simultaneous comprehension.
Q: What do whales feel about human beings?
A: Wrong idea again!! You are not grasping this!!!
Q: I know that! I'm trying to... how do they feel about human beings?!
A: Each whale is able to absorb all truths that exist past, present and future at all "times."
Q: Well then, they are pretty awesome creatures and humans ought not to be hunting them down and killing them!
A: Lesson profiles interject experience.
Q: Who gets the experience interjected us or them? We must be the ones getting the lesson here...
A: All there is, is lessons.
Q: If there is anything else you want to tell us about whales, because obviously I am not understanding here. Are dolphins similar in make-up and ability?
A: Not "yet."
Q: They are down on the scale from whales. I think that whales are absolutely awesome. Are whale souls sort of like a composite soul - sort of like a bunch of dolphin souls make up a whale soul?
A: No.
Q: Is a whale soul always a whale soul from the beginning?
A: Whale is unified soul.
Q: Unified from what to what?
A: All whales share the same soul!
Q: Are human beings like that or moving in that direction, becoming unified soul?
A: Fragmented.
Q: Human beings are a fragmented soul. Were we once a unified soul?
A: Once and future.
Q: When one is a unified soul, then obviously all the experiences of the former fragments become everyone's experience, so to speak. Is that correct?
A: Close.

They truly are awesome.
 
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