Blame it on privileges!

[Esprit]

It's funny (but not so much ?!) how can people can come up for all kinds of reason external to themselves and take no responsibilities at all !
They are so creative it almost became a hobby to watch it all go. I'd gladly have some non-gmo sugarless pop-corn while watching those clips but I can't find any. Probably because of oppressive patriarchy or something...


Who knew? Racism is the reason you're OBESE!

Skinny girl reacts to THIN PRIVILEGE (how is this a thing?)

 

[SOTTREADER]

Interesting videos. To summarise

Video 1:- Some black women are explaining obesity away by invoking racism. We can say, this is like some religious people invoking the devil on anything that isn't to their liking.

Video 2:- (Race is not invoked) The video revolves around some concept of obesity which is shown around white women. In this case, race isn't invoked, the argument is being fat is normal (I guess) which the presenter obviously doesn't agree with.

My take: In both, what we have are (some) obese women essentially trying to come to terms with their obesity in a fashion that puts the blame on something external thus (perhaps) creating the conditions for them to get some psychological reprieve from personal shame (?). In the end, you can say, they have to live with themselves and they have to find the peace in doing so.

It's also worth noting that the notion of obesity on both videos just touches upon women... what is the view of obese men? Are black obese men invoking racism? Are white obese men stating they are being victimised by a 'thin' centric world? To me it looks like the subject as far as appearance and acceptance goes is mostly being felt by women - perhaps driven by notions of beauty? Perhaps beauty affects men differently (?).

In a sense, I think obesity is a tough problem for anyone to deal with (especially if female) as the causes are multifaceted and sometimes an individual can't do much to change their situation i.e. they might simply be obese due to their genetics as opposed to lifestyle choices. But again, obesity in the main is being driven by lifestyle choices and in the end obese people tend to have more health problems on average compared to non-obese people - especially if talking about morbid obesity. Shame surrounds the subject, especially for those afflicted.

Ultimately, in both videos above, the obese women in question are putting a case forward for acceptance. What would the 'healthy' advice to them be? To wholeheartedly accept their condition? To reject it? What's the middle ground?

In my view, the series of videos here are not about privilege, they are about shame and acceptance (or need of).

 

[Esprit]

Ultimately, in both videos above, the obese women in question are putting a case forward for acceptance. What would the 'healthy' advice to them be? To wholeheartedly accept their condition? To reject it? What's the middle ground?

In my view, the series of videos here are not about privilege, they are about shame and acceptance (or need of).

Like we learn here, knowledge protects. I lost over 100 pounds in 6 months after reading vegetarian myth and life without bread. Something as simple, but not easy, as cutting sugar drastically would probably solve the problem for something like 90% of them .

When you don't have the right info, I can empathize with the idea that after attempting many different approaches to diet, very few give the desired results and you kind of give up along the way.

You really have to dig hard to to uncover the myths but sugar knowledge is gaining in popularity I seem to see. It's hard for most people to brake the habit sugar is such a drug. And to make it work you really have to cut drastically and stick to it. Since humanity is mostly lazy, doing the research and sticking to a diet discipline is a mountain for most.

I suspect the idea for blaming exterior factors could stem from these difficulties, when it's not really working, and you kinda tried, it must be something else.
Add to that the idea of taking no responsibilities=no effort required.
Although I honestly don't think they all tried that hard, it would at least worked a little bit with a low calorie+exercises diet.

Anything worth doing takes efforts.

 

[Ina]

Anything worth doing takes efforts.

Thank you! Good Morning!

 

[Courageous Inmate Sort]

Video 1:- Some black women are explaining obesity away by invoking racism. We can say, this is like some religious people invoking the devil on anything that isn't to their liking.

It's much worse than that. They are blaming other people, not the devil, for their (usually but not easily) solvable problem. This tends to lead to retribution and reparations and so forth.

Video 2:- (Race is not invoked) The video revolves around some concept of obesity which is shown around white women. In this case, race isn't invoked, the argument is being fat is normal (I guess) which the presenter obviously doesn't agree with.

I don't think so, the argument is being thin is a privilege. To me that is a result of full-on self-centered victim mentality.

Ultimately, in both videos above, the obese women in question are putting a case forward for acceptance. What would the 'healthy' advice to them be? To wholeheartedly accept their condition? To reject it? What's the middle ground?

That's not my impression. These women seek recognition as victims, with all that that entails, including making their alleged oppressors responsible. In the first video because they are victims of racism, thus fat. In the second because they are fat and thus victimized by thin people.

IMO healthy advice would begin with putting aside victim mentality and taking responsibility for what they can indeed do, research and experimentation with diet and exercise, seeking professional help etc, IF they indeed need or want to lose weight, which may not be the case. Also, they may not want any advice at all.

I'm too fond of middle grounds but I can't see how "thin privilege" and "fat because racism" are in any way justifiable, which is not to say that I don't sympathize with dealing with weight issues. Myself and loved ones struggle with it, some overweight, others underweight. This just make these "arguments" seem that more farsical and a SJW pity ploy.