Can't Shake the Feeling the US Election is About to Trigger Big Changes

[TylerDurden]

I live in the US and everywhere I turn my attention, or no matter what conversation I overhear even among strangers, the election is all that's on anyone's mind, and everyone is completely on edge. In trying to predict the outcome of all this, I see two possibilities:

(Scenario A) Hillary wins. Half of the US population (probably more) who loathe her and who realize the entire system is a complete and utter rigged sham go bonkers as the nomination of - in the words of SOTT's Harrison Koehli - a "corrupt, foul-mouthed, lying, war-loving, mass-murdering deviant" becomes the straw that broke the camel's back. Localized riots, pandemonium slowly take hold across the country, and spread out of control. Martial law gets enacted and the Army steps in. It's the beginnings of a US Civil War: the US people, against one another, and against their own government. Stocks plummet, and sends economic shockwaves across the world as the system begins to collapse. What happens after this is anyone's guess.

(Scenario B) Trump wins. The PTB have absolutely none of it. Knowing the potential domino effect of the investigation currently ongoing against Hillary and her foundation, and Trump's relentless desire to jail her and "Drain the Swamp," as he likes to say (cleanse Washington of corruption - a.k.a. everyone), they take drastic measures to ensure that he does not actually get inaugurated come January. A major false flag event (or even something more reckless like an hostile aggression against Russia) sends the world on the brink or threat of war, and, with a reason for Obama to stay in office (whether it be martial law or some other mechanism), Trump doesn't get elected. Again, what happens next (given that this would be huge), is anyone's guess.

Point being: I don't see an outcome of this election that is just "business as usual" where everyone is fine with the result and everyone goes on with their day-to-day lives as if nothing ever happened. The stakes have just never seemed higher, and the tipping point is within view for me.

Does anyone else feel the same, or does anyone have a point of view that we aren't mere months away from "shit absolutely hitting the fan" irrecoverably?

 

[Phill4]

Hi ~TD~. I can only share the feeling of uncertanty with you, it is amazing how many people are sided with Trump ideologies which scares me of people as a country, but on the other hand there are also alot of people against them both.

People are so divided that it is hard to teñl which event will trigger sovial unrest, but at least there are no "mayority" of people siding with either.

I am assuming Trump wins and there will be a period where he will have to settle and digest all he has to do, while the PTB runs the show in the background with false falg attacks here and there and the scalation police brutality. And from there all other events will take off.

 

[Carl]

Personally the more I look at it, the more I think that it won't be an absolute and sudden collapse. The election result will just be one more event in the long series of events that brought down the US empire. It will add more division and hostility into the nation, push along the deterioration of general living standards, morals and decency, worsen (but not destroy) the economy. Most of all it will show the rest of the world that the emperor wears no clothes. Other countries will continue to move away from the US and into the arms of the multi-polar system headed by Russia and China. The empire will get even more desperate and commit even greater atrocities.

All of this is already happening, we are living through the collapse right now. The division caused by the run up to this election is already there.

That's all IMO anyway.

 

[Alejo]

Hi ~TD~,

Yes i definitely share the feeling of being overwhelmed by the entire election season in the US. But from my point of view it's more akin to the Super Bowl. Everyone has a team picked and they all have their predictions and they each want to win and the other to loose and constantly find themselves justifying their choice by any means of mental gymnastics available.

Regarding possible outcomes, it's difficult to predict. There's obviously people (not in the general population and with tremendous power and influence) who want Hillary to win, there's also people with the same clout who want her to loose. Trump was always a wild card that perhaps the clinton campaign never expected to have such following. They underestimated his resonance with a great percentage of the american population. And now, to me, they seem worried.

Interestingly enough, i believe the rhetoric in election campaigns has escalated to a level of "anyone but..." Trump supporters claim anyone but Hillary and viceversa. So here i do believe we've reached a tremendous level of social decay in the US.

As far as scenarios, i personally tend to (and this might be wishful thinking) think that an overt sudden take over and imposition of martial law is against their interest. I do think that they want to continue to reduce freedoms, and control the population, and make them poorer. But i don't think they'd be as foolish to shock the population too much because they risk loosing said control by what you're expressing (riots and protests and so on).

What i do think could happen of sudden proportions enough to tumble the house of cards is a disaster of cataclysmic proportions in the US. Meteor impacts, earthquakes, blizzards what have you.

But regardless, i'm with you in the being done with election season.

 

[pete02]

I'm with you guys about feeling overwhelmed with what may happen but part of me is saying enough is enough already. Millions are suffering because of this country so if something is gonna happen to bring us closer to the end then so be it. Don't get me wrong though, the other half of me is scared outta my mind cause I know that means that life will become very difficult for most.

As far as the election is concerned I see option A as being a possibility but with either candidate. Option B doesn't work for me cause I'm pretty sure the PTB is going to put whomever they want in office. The way they control everything I find it hard to believe that someone they don't want will get in.

 

[Navigator]

Does anyone else feel the same, or does anyone have a point of view that we aren't mere months away from "shit absolutely hitting the fan" irrecoverably?

That's always a possibility, but have you considered that the PTB instead of having to go full frontal against Trump they may allow sending to jail some people to appease and foment the perception of Trump being a game-changer only to co-opt him in other ways, effectively blocking him from doing anything substantial?

 

[Joe]

Point being: I don't see an outcome of this election that is just "business as usual" where everyone is fine with the result and everyone goes on with their day-to-day lives as if nothing ever happened. The stakes have just never seemed higher, and the tipping point is within view for me.

Does anyone else feel the same, or does anyone have a point of view that we aren't mere months away from "shit absolutely hitting the fan" irrecoverably?

I do feel that there is something rather unusual about this election. Apart from it being so divisive and ugly, like a schoolyard fight, it seems like there is a serious amount of pressure building, not just in the USA but around the world, and all of it is contributing to a feeling of something "big" about to happen. But that something "big" might not be any serious upset over a Clinton or Trump win, but something else lurking somewhere else. We could posit various scenarios, but probably the best thing to do is hunker down and wait and see which way the wind starts to blow.

 

[Richs]

Does anyone else feel the same, or does anyone have a point of view that we aren't mere months away from "shit absolutely hitting the fan" irrecoverably?

The C's tell us that things are slated to get worse before they get better. Anyone watching what is going on these days doesn't need any help in figuring out for themselves that we are all on the brink of really serious goings-on! The thing is that none of us knows exactly how all this is going to play out.

What I do is keep an open mind as much as possible and watch events as they happen in order to perhaps have some clue as to what may occur next. Even this is just a 'guessing game' because we have no way of anticipating all the twists and turns which will invariably turn up and throw all our preconceived ideas right out of the window.

We may just as well relax and enjoy the show. Meanwhile, we all have to do our best to learn and grow both individually and as a group. This is really where we need to be concentrating our thoughts and efforts.

 

[Glenn]

The PTB might trigger an economic collapse if Trump wins. Would be a good thing to pin on him, diverting his attention and energy. But really the situation is such a powder keg, hard to envision what will transpire. But I am with you, I have a feeling that something big is going to happen.

 

[Mr.Cyan]

I do feel that there is something rather unusual about this election. Apart from it being so divisive and ugly, like a schoolyard fight, it seems like there is a serious amount of pressure building, not just in the USA but around the world, and all of it is contributing to a feeling of something "big" about to happen. But that something "big" might not be any serious upset over a Clinton or Trump win, but something else lurking somewhere else. We could posit various scenarios, but probably the best thing to do is hunker down and wait and see which way the wind starts to blow.

That's the way I feel too - its been like a slow and steady pressure build-up that I can almost feel every morning when I wake up. I think so too that the something "big" might be occuring somewhere else (like in 4D) - and might manifest as something completely unexpected in 3D.

 

[Shared Joy]

Hi,

I just had the hunch to ask the IChing about the meaning of the situation developing in US, and here's the answer:

4. Mêng / Youthful Folly
In this hexagram we are reminded of youth and folly in two different ways.
The image of the upper trigram, Kên, is the mountain, that of the lower,
K'an, is water; the spring rising at the foot of the mountain is the image of
inexperienced youth. Keeping still is the attribute of the upper trigram; that of
the lower is the abyss, danger. Stopping in perplexity on the brink of a
dangerous abyss is a symbol of the folly of youth. However, the two trigrams
also show the way of overcoming the follies of youth. Water is something
that of necessity flows on. When the spring gushes forth, it does not know at
first where it will go. But its steady flow fills up the deep place blocking its
progress, and success is attained.


THE JUDGMENT


YOUTHFUL FOLLY has success.
It is not I who seek the young fool;
The young fool seeks me.
At the first oracle I inform him.
If he asks two or three times, it is importunity.
If he importunes, I give him no information.
Perseverance furthers.

In the time of youth, folly is not an evil. One may succeed in spite of it,
provided one finds an experienced teacher and has the right attitude toward
him. This means, first of all, that the youth himself must be conscious of his
lack of experience and must seek out the teacher. Without this modesty and
this interest there is no guarantee that he has the necessary receptivity, which
should express itself in respectful acceptance of the teacher. This is the reason
why the teacher must wait to be sought out instead of offering himself. Only
thus can the instruction take place at the right time and in the right way.

A teacher's answer to the question of a pupil ought to be clear and definite
like that expected from an oracle; thereupon it ought to be accepted as a key
for resolution of doubts and a basis for decision. If mistrustful or
unintelligent questioning is kept up, it serves only to annoy the teacher. He
does well to ignore it in silence, just as the oracle gives one answer only and
refuses to be tempted by questions implying doubt.

Given addition a perseverance that never slackens until the points are
mastered one by one, real success is sure to follow. Thus the hexagram
counsels the teacher as well as the pupil.


THE IMAGE


A spring wells up at the foot of the mountain:
The image of YOUTH.
Thus the superior man fosters his character
By thoroughness in all that he does.

A spring succeeds in flowing on and escapes stagnation by filling up all the
hollow places in its path. In the same way character is developed by
thoroughness that skips nothing but, like water, gradually and steadily fills up
all gaps and so flows onward.


6 ------- 7
5 -- x -- 6
4 -- x -- 6
3 -- -- 8
2 ------- 7
1 -- -- 8


4. Mêng / Youthful Folly, which turns into
6. Sung / Conflict

THE LINES (No 4 and 5 meaning)
Six in the fourth place means:
Entangled folly bring humiliation.


For youthful folly it is the most hopeless thing to entangle itself in empty
imaginings. The more obstinately it clings to such unreal fantasies, the more
certainly will humiliation overtake it.
Often the teacher, when confronted with such entangled folly, has no other
course but to leave the fool to himself for a time, not sparing him the
humiliation that results. This is frequently the only means of rescue.


Six in the fifth place means:
Childlike folly brings good fortune.

An inexperienced person who seeks instruction in a childlike and
unassuming way is on the right path, for the man devoid of arrogance who
subordinated himself to his teacher will certainly be helped.

For an external observer is much like some immature persons quarrel and circus with humiliation of the fool but help is on the way for those who ask adequately. Never, not even in the deepest darkness, the righteous person will have the same fate as the foolish, arrogant person. Is just a school for everyone to learn.

Conflict will inevitably come, but there is always a way out. one is never left without the possibility of making a wise choice.

I do wish we all have the inspiration and the determination to follow the right path.

 

[Mike]

I have also felt the tension or buildup with the election along with the other things like the geopolitical situation. For a couple of months I’ve thought to myself that the US, the world and humanity is starting to hit the leading edge of the crossroads that Gurdjieff talked about and that Laura has highlighted before either on the forum and I think in her books.

"The evolving part of organic life is humanity. Humanity also has its evolving part but we will speak of this later; in the meantime we will take humanity as a whole. If humanity does not evolve it means that the evolution of organic life will stop and this in its turn will cause the growth of the ray of creation to stop. At the same time if humanity ceases to evolve it becomes useless from the point of view of the aims for which it was created and as such it may be destroyed. In this way the cessation of evolution may mean the destruction of humanity.
"We have no clues from which we are able to tell in what period of planetary evolution we exist and whether the moon and the earth have time to await the corresponding evolution of organic life or not. But people who know may, of course, have exact information about it, that is, they may know at what stage in their possible evolution are the earth, the moon, and humanity. We cannot know this but we should bear in mind that the number of possibilities is never infinite.

"At the same time in examining the life of humanity as we know it historically we are bound to acknowledge that humanity is moving in a circle. In one century it destroys everything it creates in another and the progress in mechanical things of the past hundred years has proceeded at the cost of losing many other things which perhaps were much more important for it. Speaking in general there is every reason to think and to assert that humanity is at a standstill and from a standstill there is a straight path to downfall and degeneration. A standstill means that a process has become balanced. The appearance of any one quality immediately evokes the appearance of another quality opposed to it. The growth of knowledge in one domain evokes the growth of ignorance in another; refinement on the one hand evokes vulgarity on the other; freedom in one connection evokes slavery in another; the disappearance of some superstitions evokes the appearance and the growth of others; and so on.

"Now if we recall the law of octaves we shall see that a balanced process proceeding in a certain way cannot be changed at any moment it is desired. It can be changed and set on a new path only at certain 'cross-roads.' In between the 'crossroads' nothing can be done. At the same time if a process passes by a 'crossroad' and nothing happens, nothing is done, then nothing can be done afterwards and the process will continue and develop according to mechanical laws; and even if people taking part in this process foresee the inevitable destruction of everything, they will be unable to do anything. I repeat that something can be done only at certain moments which I have just called 'crossroads' and which in octaves we have called the 'intervals' mi-fa and sido.

If Clinton is elected, I see more of the same with a slower disintegration of the system, than if Trump was elected. A large number of people may be upset if she is elected, yet will it be enough to make them take some form of action that could upset the system in some way or cause a large reaction from the system?

If Trump is elected, I think there will be a significant negative reaction in financial markets, especially in the US. They are already so false in the US from manipulation to keep them afloat it wouldn’t take much to throw them into significant disorder and chaos. With Trump being the anti-establishment candidate and the MSM polls being so against him it could be a significant shock to markets. ISOT.

I think Joe is right in saying to hunker down and if it starts to get crazy not to get caught up in it in terms of mechanical and emotional reactions.

 

[3DStudent]

I've been coming to a more balanced, peaceful, and productive state. Purging items, cleaning, and less dissociation has helped with that. And at times I think that I don't want the world to end, I need more time. But I think what I really mean is that I don't want to stop learning. Worst case scenario: you still learn in 5D. So it's a bit of an absurd thing to think, because all there is is lessons, so the Universe is the place to learn.

In the recent past I was very fearful of these times. And now I sometimes find myself like Neo when they pull the tracking bug out of him, "You mean that thing was real!?" But I seem a bit calm, almost Stoic-like in that I can only do what I can do. And there is an urge to just to what is in front of me and take one step at a time.

 

[scotseeker]

Living in the US this election season has become a full on circus! I agree that it seems like there is something big brewing and do my best to keep out of politics. My friends and family keep insisting that everyone votes, especially me seeing as they know I "do not vote". Wanting this election to be over and Joe's advice to hunker down is my plan, at least for now. Keeping an eye out for the beginning of the big event. My only added advice is be aware, be prepared.

 

[mabar]

I do feel that there is something rather unusual about this election. Apart from it being so divisive and ugly, like a schoolyard fight, it seems like there is a serious amount of pressure building, not just in the USA but around the world, and all of it is contributing to a feeling of something "big" about to happen. But that something "big" might not be any serious upset over a Clinton or Trump win, but something else lurking somewhere else. We could posit various scenarios, but probably the best thing to do is hunker down and wait and see which way the wind starts to blow.

What I had been observing is that, here in Mexico, social and mass media had been pushing people to exacerbate the whole doom if Trump wins. A video just came out and had gone viral, a Uruguay-Mexican production, Arbol Cine, _http://arbolcine.com/ and _http://www.aparato.tv/about/ both with big clients, I wonder who was the client of M. A. M. O. N. (Monitor Against Mexicans Over Nationwide) video...

Found interesting observations here

We totally understand the desire to capitalize on the racism that is Donald Trump, but we are just curious as to why money was spent on the following short film called M.A.M.O.N. (Monitor Against Mexicans Over Nationwide). According to the YouTube channel behind the satirical sci-fi film, “M.A.M.O.N. is part of the Wecanfxit project, powered by Uruguayan production house Aparato. Our mission is to change the world using our geeky weapons: cinematography, visual effects and CGI. Our motto: Making the world a better place, one pixel at a time.”

So here is the film, produced by a Uruguayan production house about the U.S.-Mexico border. Count how many stale Mexican stereotypes are in the film. We stopped counting at like 10.
With friends like these…

Hey, we totally understand that Aparato is promoting its film talent, but you would think that other Latin Americans can be a bit more of an ally? Feel free to destroy Trump all you like but does it have to be at the expense of perpetuating the same old, same old Mexican stereotypes? (Although we like the one about the scared diplomat.)

One more thing: Monitor Against Mexicans Over Nationwide doesn’t even make sense in English.

Six in the fourth place means:
Entangled folly bring humiliation.

For youthful folly it is the most hopeless thing to entangle itself in empty
imaginings. The more obstinately it clings to such unreal fantasies, the more
certainly will humiliation overtake it.
Often the teacher, when confronted with such entangled folly, has no other
course but to leave the fool to himself for a time, not sparing him the
humiliation that results. This is frequently the only means of rescue.

https://www.sott.net/article/327303-Mexico-president-Nieto-blasts-Trumps-policies-as-huge-threat-after-meeting
Why would we-mexicans feel humilliated by Trump- border and/or racism, if it is what we do too ... I cannot exclude myself at all, I had built huge walls and had been racist by ignorance as well ... It just seems to me that this humiliating part is being exacerbated and I think that if Trump wins will be quite a big shock to every mexican, and this kind of mexican collective unconscious that makes me nervous ...

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