Chang's issues with female police officers

[Laura]

Chang, if you are suffering PTSD, you need to get therapy, not hang out in a forum that is devoted to working on the self from a generally healthy state. As Gurdjieff said, you can't begin The Work from a level lower than an obyvatel, which means an individual who has mastered his ordinary life more or less. It sounds to me like you need to concentrate all your energies on getting your daily life organized so that you aren't suffering daily from such horrible incidents. If moving will do that for you, go for it.

 

[Laura]

Also, Chang, don't take this the wrong way, but are you circumcised? See:
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/235725-Study-Links-Circumcision-to-Personality-Trait-Disorder

 

[luke wilson]

But the one thing that kept me going, was from the one lofty soul amongst us:

"Chang, you need to be reading "Caricature of Love"."

No judgements rendered, no name-calling. Just something being offered that would help me move forward. Could anyone ask for anything more?

Chang

And now you are generalizing the members of this forum. So, did you order the book Laura said you "need" to be reading?

Chang, if you follow the link given by truth seeker, you will find an online version of the book. Here,

_http://www.mediafire.com/?tilkz1s2zfnlsaa

And btw, fwiw, I wish you the best of luck in your current situation. No one should be made to feel insecure in there own home!

 

[knowledge_of_self]

Fwiw another good book to read that deals with PTSD is Myth of Sanity by Martha Stout.

Also, perhaps it would help you see your callous/unsympathetic remarks about the female P.O. better if you thought about it as a hypothetical situation.

Think that she was not a P.O who did you wrong. That she was just a woman and that you read about her getting raped. Or even that she was a man getting raped. Would your comment about her/him being deserving of this attack not seem to come from someone with no empathy?

Her attacker was a sociopath, but she failed to recognize it. She suffered the consequences.

Someone with no empathy could say the same thing about you being abused by your neighbors. That you were attacked because you "failed to recognize it" and that you "suffered the consequences". Would that not seem callous? That someone would deserve abuse just because they failed to see another as a psychopath/sociopath?

 

[anart]

Chang, if you are suffering PTSD, you need to get therapy, not hang out in a forum that is devoted to working on the self from a generally healthy state. As Gurdjieff said, you can't begin The Work from a level lower than an obyvatel, which means an individual who has mastered his ordinary life more or less. It sounds to me like you need to concentrate all your energies on getting your daily life organized so that you aren't suffering daily from such horrible incidents. If moving will do that for you, go for it.

This really is the main point. This forum is not equipped to deal with certain problems. I think your leaving the forum, reading the suggested reading and getting into professional therapy is the most promising route.

 

[cubbex]

Laura,

"If I was so inclined, young and in good health, I think I'd make one heckuva police person! Especially if, in this theoretical situation, I'm allowed to keep all I know about psychopathy in my head!"


I completely agree, as a matter of fact, at this very moment I believe you would blow the doors off of at LEAST 90% of the officers I've met here in Maine.

And in response to the article you found about Trooper Gardner's attack, that was pretty close, as it had some of the same wording of the original newspaper clip. As a matter of fact, the description of her attack was probably taken from the clip I first read, but there was a bit more about that episode, and non of the legal wranglings.

But while reading it, I remembered why I first brought it up. Her attacker was a sociopath, but she failed to recognize it. She suffered the consequences. The same thing happened to her when she spoke to my neighbor the sociopath, he schmoozed her, but it's ME that is STILL suffering from her mistake. That was the main point I wanted to make. Obviously I failed...

Thanks So Much For Your Time!!!

Chang

And what's the mistake? by god's sake, where's the mistake, that she was assaulted by a sociopath? do you think everyone in this planet knows what a sociopath/psychopath/antisocial or a pathological being is?

hope you would answer to others, not just to Gonzo, or post that you find as an opportunity to excuse yourself.

 

[Hildegarda]

Her attacker was a sociopath, but she failed to recognize it. She suffered the consequences.

Someone with no empathy could say the same thing about you being abused by your neighbors. That you were attacked because you "failed to recognize it" and that you "suffered the consequences". Would that not seem callous? That someone would deserve abuse just because they failed to see another as a psychopath/sociopath?

I agree. It is about blaming the victim. It is a mechanical, ritualistic thought pattern for many people: by identifying the alleged flaw in the victim, they try to convince themselves that they sure would have done it differently, and therefore are protected from any such events affecting them.

In your case, you happen to going through a hardship of your own. Could it be that by ranting against this poor woman, you are projecting outwards the criticism to yourself from your own negative introject? If so, this attitude isn't going to solve any problems. But doing the suggested reading or therapy would definitely help.

 

[Gimpy]

Chang, if you are suffering PTSD, you need to get therapy, not hang out in a forum that is devoted to working on the self from a generally healthy state. As Gurdjieff said, you can't begin The Work from a level lower than an obyvatel, which means an individual who has mastered his ordinary life more or less. It sounds to me like you need to concentrate all your energies on getting your daily life organized so that you aren't suffering daily from such horrible incidents. If moving will do that for you, go for it.

Another book that could help is called "In an Unspoken Voice" By Peter A Levine. His first book "Waking the Tiger" would also be good for you to read, with a therapist.

I've found his work invaluable in dealing with long standing trauma, most of it from daily being forced to deal with pathological family members.

Its a lot harder to heal when you're still in the territory of a predator, Chang.

Move if you need to, your health will thank you later.