Christmas nightmare

[mkrnhr]

Merry Christmas all
Yesterday, I slept after reading as usual (yesterday it was "the Work" by sott).
I have been awakened by the screams of a bird at my window, it was something like 3 in the morning. The screams like those of a crow.
When I returned to sleep I had this disturbing dream :
I had to go somewhere with some friends. One of them demanded to visit his mother before. So we went to an apartment. But I was not allowed to see her (and say hello). I stood in the apartment where many young girls were very sick. The rooms were fool of sorrow, and a depressive atmosphere was around. These girls were suffering in their beds and their skins were blue, dark blue and like in decomposition. The odor was horrible also. I tried to talk to one of them but I do not remember what happened next.
Is there any possible interpretation or is it just a bad dream? :/

 

[Pierre]

Merry Christmas all
Yesterday, I slept after reading as usual (yesterday it was "the Work" by sott).
I have been awakened by the screams of a bird at my window, it was something like 3 in the morning. The screams like those of a crow.
When I returned to sleep I had this disturbing dream :
I had to go somewhere with some friends. One of them demanded to visit his mother before. So we went to an apartment. But I was not allowed to see her (and say hello). I stood in the apartment where many young girls were very sick. The rooms were fool of sorrow, and a depressive atmosphere was around. These girls were suffering in their beds and their skins were blue, dark blue and like in decomposition. The odor was horrible also. I tried to talk to one of them but I do not remember what happened next.
Is there any possible interpretation or is it just a bad dream? :/

Hi mkrnhr,

And merry Christmas.

I don't know if it was just a bad dream or not.

A possible interpretation is that this house represents you (your body). In you, there are all those young girls that might represent your feminine side (the emotional side).

These young girls are sick (this emotional/feminine/creative side is not nurtured, neglected).

Maybe you can't see the Mother yet (the higher self ? The higher emotional center ?) because the young girls (the emotional/creative side of you) are not nurtured enough ?

 

[Craig]

It's not surprising you dreamed this after reading about the Work. Death, suffering, darkness, inaccessibility, ignorance... are the first positive signs of awakening.

 

[Ruth]

A possible interpretation is that this house represents you (your body). In you, there are all those young girls that might represent your feminine side (the emotional side).

These young girls are sick (this emotional/feminine/creative side is not nurtured, neglected).

Maybe you can't see the Mother yet (the higher self ? The higher emotional center ?) because the young girls (the emotional/creative side of you) are not nurtured enough ?

I agree with Belibaste. It seems like your subconscious is telling you that not only is your 'feminine' side (this also relates to our inner world) neglected and 'unwell', but that your 'masculine' side (or the 'outer' world) is somehow preventing you from being in touch with your feminine side.

How like our 'outer world' or 'masculine side' to do this, though! It is probably quite a common occurance. Although your subconsious is giving you a 'wake up' call. :)

 

[lostinself]

hi mkrnhr,

referring to the Belibaste's post, the mother and the young girls may indeed represent the feminine principle (Anima) however not necessarily only yours. after all it was not your mother who you were visiting in the dream, nor the apartment being the place of action was (as i understand from the description) your house or other place you spend much time in. in this context, the neglecting of the feminine principle - preventing it from growing and isolating from it - may not be your own condition but rather something you perceive to persist in the environment or people in general.

 

[mkrnhr]

Thank you all for the comments. I am thinking of these matters since the insightful post of Balibaste. Lately I became very intellectual (lot of activity), less intuitive but this have already happened in the past. The unconsciousness message is indeed profound. I used to have dreams of some "feminine me" or some "feminine being inside me" talking to me, healing me, and even once... missing to unite with me (she told me to come back later when I'm ready :/)
In a spectacular dream involving burning houses, saving babies and three comets in the sky, I had a message from a woman kept in prison, all I know is that she was a mother and she gave us a code to decipher in order to liberate her. It is a frustration to have this failure to understand, but at least there are things to do.
Ruth is right, it is a "wake up" call. Knowing we are asleep, and Leopher is right to mention that seeing this world as it is (or trying to at least) may help to hear these inner voice calling to wake up.

However, as pointed up by Lostinself, this house is somebody else's house. It's possible also that these people you see moving with you in the dreams are other part of oneself. I mean, little I's. Actually I have no stable house so maybe it is normal that my little I's house is unknown to me. Just a hypothesis though.

The question is : How to reconciliate the feminine part of self?

 

[Craig]

If you strip the issue from all of this intellectualising it seems to boil down to this: "how much truth and love do I have in my life? Am I source for good as I define it, or evil?"

That's the question you perhaps should reflect upon, long and deeply. We're only given a small amount of time, and then when it runs out... well, what then?

 

[mkrnhr]

Hi,
All these days of reflexion about all what have been said, the task seems to be difficult.
To answer Leopher's question : how much love do I have in my life?
I don't know exactly what love is. If it is the conventional love we usually "feel" to one's spouse and children and family... well the answer is no. There's some love for "life", a very unexplainable sensation but it could be just a "state of the heart" (don't know how to translate "état d'âme" in french). Objective love? definitively no even if, well I guess it's something we would like to be right?
The other question : Am I a source for good as I define it, or evil? Well... relatively to what I observe in the human world, I am definitively not a source of evil! But objectively, is it possible that I do/am evil at some point without knowing it? Is this masculine/feminine imbalance a source of inner defect?

In the last days I read about saving inner ladies (Perseus with Danae/Cassiopeia/Andromeda essentially) and I came to re-watch a fantasy moovie called "stardust". In the beginning there is this boy (a son of a queen on a fantastic world but he doesn't know) who is a nice/naive/seemingly inoffensive looser in what appears to be the outer world. This guy, looking for love, went to the fantastic world (it doesn't seem when I recount it but the movie is less annoying) he encounters a falling star (actually a woman in blue dress (it reminded me of the blue color of the girls I saw in my dream)) and surprisingly (at least to me) he acts very wrong with her, as if she was his property. My understanding is that even if the exterior person can be OK (love/goodness) the inner world can be different because of that imbalance. By the way in the movie he wins the heart of the star and become (with her) an eternal king of the fantastic world (I would say like Perseus with Andromeda?).

So, what do you think about this interpretation? Does the dream about saving some inner Andromeda or something?

 

[mkrnhr]

I have consciousness that it could be selfish from my part to continue on this subject again... but I would like to understand
Since the last messages I tried to deepen (at my newbie level) this internal feminine part issue. I read some alchemical texts and some mythological texts. And I returned back to music and I even started to write poetry (OK, it's a very bad and infantile poetry actually). The Gaza event carried a lot of emotion as you can imagine. All these are mixing up these days.
Yesterday, I made a new dream.
I arrived (late) to a sort of open room. And there were some people laying on the soil.
There was also a woman who was healing these people as I understood. She told me to be quick to find a place to be healed.
I told her it was dark around. She told me to hurry up before time is over, that she needed star light to heal.
Then i saw the stars outside I thought that their light was sufficient to me to see.
I layered down on the soil, waiting for the lady to heal me... but somehow I understood it was late.
Something else was coming and I had to run away. But this coming thing had already paralyzed me. So started the standard sleep paralysis episode and everything. But this time I woke up.
What do you think about this failure? :/

 

[Craig]

Since the last messages I tried to deepen (at my newbie level) this internal feminine part issue.

Reading the books in the recommended reading list would be a much more practical thing to do here, mkrnhr. You don't seem to have any real idea about the nature of your problem - the reality behind the dream - and the solution to it... your actions are very confused with a lot of wishful thinking and assumptions.

 

[mkrnhr]

You don't seem to have any real idea about the nature of your problem - the reality behind the dream - and the solution to it... your actions are very confused with a lot of wishful thinking and assumptions.

Leopher, I know that (I know that I don't know and that, believe me is hard to attend). That's what I asked for help. Thank you.

 

[Pierre]

And I returned back to music and I even started to write poetry (OK, it's a very bad and infantile poetry actually).

Well maybe it's the male, intellectual, judgemental little I who feels threaten and says these poems are very bad and infantile. It might actually be a very useful activity to awaken the emotional center.

What do you think about this failure?

Maybe it was what you had to hear to realize how urgent the situation is and to help you make the necessary moves and work towards your destiny. Like Leonpher said, the recommended books, particularly the psychology one should be very helpful to understand suppressed emotions, lack of confidence, fears, negative introject, parents' heritage...

 

[mkrnhr]

It might actually be a very useful activity to awaken the emotional center.

OK, I understand that.
However I want to be objective in judging my work as I do in music or drawing. And my first poems are really bad :D but I'll continue, and that male I has to occupy himself of something else.

About Obama : A puppet leaves the scene,
and others come in row.
The masters 're still within.
There always goes the show.

you had to hear to realize how urgent the situation is

Would like my subconscious tell me something I don't know rather :)
Anyway, you are right on the psychology, even if during those last three years I explored (sometimes rudely) many aspects. A lot of work has to be done yet!

 

[Craig]

As I said, the help is already here and has been for quite a while... what makes this dream any different from the message being conveyed? We're all ignorant sleep-walking automatons and selfish feeding predators whose only known end is to become worm-food.

That I think, is the reality behind your dream... and it can only change if you develop a sharp awareness of it, a strong drive to become a better person, and a ruthless will to hammer away daily - minute by minute - against your nature. It can't be done by writing poetry, reading mythology, or through dreams. They can assist, but can also be distractions to avoid the pain and suffering that would really enable you to awaken.

The reality and terror of the situation is far more serious and demanding.

 

[mkrnhr]

Leopher,
In the beginning I thought you answer was cryptic, overestimating my modest intelligence. Yes, the work is hard, painful, I you really suffer. In the beginning you fear to look into yourself, then you feel the need to suffer... in order to heal (metaphorically). The terror of the situation inside the matrix is real. The work is as you say a matter of every instant. It's like climbing the walls of a well. If don't pay attention at every moment you fall down again. However, what I am talking about is not a way to escape from reality. I asked about a way to balance perception in report to the now intense intellectual activity, in order to not loose intuition part. I thank you for you good intention even if we had some difficulties I think to use the proper words.