Civil war in the UK?

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Noctu

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British influencer Saira Hayati, podcast presenter at the Malaysia Gazette, refers in a video on social media to a British woman who was given a fat bag of money to let migrants into her house.

A container was then delivered to her house. The woman decided to open the container and saw to her horror that it was filled with weapons, Hayati says.

She wondered if these migrants would be part of the British army. Hayati thinks they are getting weapons to provoke a civil war. "And who have the weapons? The immigrants."

Link to a post on X (the former Twitter) containing the video that was originally posted on TikTok, it seems:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1820927996619796664

Could the C's comment on this? Is there indeed a plan to start a civil war in the UK by means of polarising immigrants and Brits? Is it going to work?
 
PopHistorian said:
Sadly, a lot of people are talking this way. Can serious trouble in this direction be averted?

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I don't think people know what they are talking about when they say "civil war". I'm also certain all the murmurs about it are from a radical but loud part of the population.

There are a few perspectives to look at this from
  • From an individual human level, only a certain breed of human will go from "not liking something" to "actively killing other humans" because of the thing they don't like. This is more so when you consider the majority of the population are civilians, have kids and/or are elderly.
  • Western countries are existing in a context of pronounced global pressure from emerging countries. Does anyone actually think the security services will sit around idly whilst the population has "civil war" destroying the fabric and integrity of civil society?
I think inevitably what we are witnessing is our notion of what a "country" means is undergoing very drastic and rapid change. I don't know where it'll all end but I don't think "civil war" in the traditional sense is the destination. I think you may get radical elements in the population try and start something but I think when the realities of human brutality kick in to the wider population, they'll be clamouring for the security services to step in and sort it out. In short, no one wants to live in a literal warzone, civil war or not.

Also, civil war means people need to get active - warring is a physically demanding occupation. The population as a whole is not in a state to be engaged in a civil war from a physical preparedness perspective. Also, the population lacks the means to carry out civil war short of butchering people with knives as there are no guns amongst civilians in a lot of European countries. My case remains, I don't see how "civil war" happens from a practical point of view.

I can see radical elements and flashpoints but I think these get put down quickly.
 
The direction is towards a hyper-repressive state. Some steps can be taken gradually as it's has been for decades, and others necessitate a big emergency like riots and pseudo revolutions. The so-called social tensions are not accidental or the result of incompetence. They're the result of policy to achieve a desired goal for the elite. The slaves are excited to react in a certain way, The slaves are either made to fight among themselves across party lines or some idiotic ideologies, to fight imported slaves, or go kill and get killed somewhere else. In any case the elite can either suppress the fake "revolution" by brute force, or let it "succeed" by installing a new regime where they stay behind the real power, and the slaves stay slaves. Just because the peasants have been given temporary material goods for a few decades doesn't mean they're part of some aristocracy. They'll be taxed to death, surveilled to death, and finally starved to death, unless they see who and what's truly ruling over them and planning their destruction, which is unlikely to happen.
 
mkrnhr said:
They'll be taxed to death, surveilled to death, and finally starved to death, unless they see who and what's truly ruling over them and planning their destruction, which is unlikely to happen.
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Well, the "triple bad day" is still coming:

Session Date: July 16th 2009

(L) I guess the hope is how we meet the wave, and what our world is like after. When you have a wave, a tsunami, you can do like that guy did in the movie Krakatoa. Ya know, throw out your anchor and head into it, tie yourself to the wheel, and grin a lot! That was so cool! So, is that basically what we're talking about here? The wave is gonna happen and how we meet it depends on what we do to prepare and that we can...

A: Yes. And there are a lot of the "elite" who will go under. As we once said it will be a "triple bad day" for Rockefeller and his ilk.
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What about this - I have come to think that to exist in 3D as a human is to exist as a "slave" if one was to use that word. I mean it in the sense that "physical existence doesn't come for free". At a minimum we need food and that in of itself doesn't magic out of nowhere. Then think about shelter, then think about some level of security and safety. Then think about EVERYONE else needing the same things and somehow needing to collaborate harmoniously without necessarily knowing what others are thinking - and noting different people have different strategies to survive.

Put all the above into a pot and mix... there's absolutely no way life comes for free 🤷. It might not be slavery in the sense of one person forcing another person to do something, at a fundamental level, it's slavery in the sense that to survive you must do something, or by extension, someone else MUST do something on your behalf. Otherwise you are literally not going to survive.

Isn't that the definition of slavery?

I'm only saying the above because I know people like to say we are all slaves in modern society. I'm sure we have all thought about how to escape the "slave system"... perhaps run to a jungle, perhaps take psychedelics etc. For those who have carefully surveilled the so-called escape routes and observed those who have gone down those paths will note that they don't lead to "freedom", not in the sense that the person ever becomes free. At best, a path may lead to more safety, or more stability, or more comfort but not freedom in the sense of not having any kind of demand placed on you. Perhaps the person works themselves into a situation where others are doing things for them and so they feel "free" i.e. they become some sort of elite. But again, is that really to be free? You then have to exercise more and more control once people realise "wait a second, why am I doing things for you and you aren't doing things for me".. etc.

WHAT A WEB THIS IS. I'm yet to come across anyone that has escaped. I don't even know what to escape means.

To me, slavery means to be forcibly owned by another and to have your rights denied. In that sense, we are not slaves though unfortunately as I understand it, such slaves exist and are victim of human trafficking and the like. I don't think this is the type of slave @mkrnhr was referring to above.
 
SOTTREADER said:
at a fundamental level, it's slavery in the sense that to survive you must do something, or by extension, someone else MUST do something on your behalf. Otherwise you are literally not going to survive.
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On a more fundamental level, you are a soul who chose to incarnate at this time, who understand why it is necessary and who gives inner guidance and direction to the incarnated personality self that has temporary amnesia.
 
I agree that a true civil war like those of the British 1642 or American 1861 civil wars is unlikely and at the very least not intended by the PTB. At best a revolution to adjust the power structure and give an appearance of change.
Laura said:
(Andromeda) Were the protests in Egypt orchestrated by the US and Israel?

A: No, but once started they certainly put their team in position. Global revolution is desired by them exactly as Reed described.
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I suspect from the video posted by Noctu that arming migrants in this way if true is meant to continue to facilitate a campaign of terror rather than an actual war. Which given the lack of weapons available to the general UK population the anticipated response by the PTB would probably be for the people in a state of helplessness turn to the government for help and sacrifice their freedoms for supposed ‘security’. At the same time trying to use migrants as scapegoats for their own psychopathic leadership.
I wouldn’t have too much faith in things turning out that way if I were them. I would think such an event would highlight the need for people to ensure their own security more than turn to the government that caused this issue in the first place.
 
I've seen some Brits call this a Stasi-like operation. The UK's Prevent is a "government-led, multi-agency programme that aims to stop individuals becoming terrorists, and police play a key role." Nominally left/right balanced, some say it is actually very much focused on native Brits and "right wing" concerns. Just under the surface, this appears to be the case, in the government's own language.


A government-hosted online training module outlines “cultural nationalism” as a belief system that could warrant a referral to the Prevent scheme. This concept is described as the idea that “Western culture is under threat from mass migration and poor integration by certain ethnic and cultural groups.”
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So, merely having this idea is wrongthink and potentially thought crime. But, it's clear that a lot of people believe this. It seems like the gov't is pitting itself in direct opposition to a large portion of the native British public. Can't fine or imprison them all, so this must be a measure to silence and prevent criticism of the gov't. What else could it be? (Another thought: programmable CBDC would make punishment rather easy.)

www.thetimes.com

Prevent deems concerns over migration ‘terrorist ideology’

The government’s anti-radicalisation programme lists ‘cultural nationalism’ as a belief that could lead to an investigation
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Concern Over Mass Migration Is Terrorist Ideology, Says Prevent | UK Reloaded

Online guidance says ‘cultural nationalism’ could be a reason for referring someone for deradicalisation Critics said people who held lawful, mainstream beliefs risked being caught in the Prevent definition of ‘cultural nationalism CHARLES HYMAS Concern [...]
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To me, the notion of preventing radicalization of any kind suggests intervention at a very low level, monitoring communications, invading privacy, etc. Dangerous because that's precisely the kind of thing that people tend to resent.
 
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SOTTREADER said:
  • Western countries are existing in a context of pronounced global pressure from emerging countries. Does anyone actually think the security services will sit around idly whilst the population has "civil war" destroying the fabric and integrity of civil society?
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You would be correct if we lived in a world where intel agencies were working to preserve their countries, to protect them and their people, and would never allow anything bad on their soil to happen.

But we're not in such world.

The intel agencies are the ones undermining their own countries. They are the ones that are allowing grooming gangs, the ones to smuggle these weapons inside, the ones to use terror against their own people. They are the ones pushing for this. They want a civil war.

Even if there are still people that believe to do the right thing, that actually want to protect their lands, these agencies all seem to be infiltrated by the usual suspects and working for the same goal. It's one big global machine, and the good people inside seem to be alone against it.

Every country needs to be divided. Every country needs to be in a state of mistrust and constant in-fighting. Every country needs to become Iraq, Libya and Syria. Mossad wants to build a Greater Israel, and they don't want it to be just a regional power, but a global empire. They want to have it all, and the only way they can do it, is through dividing everyone, because that's how they maintain dominance.
Plus, after the recent Iran fiasco, they need to remind people in The West why they need to hate Islam and help Israel.

But even then, it won't end the way they desire, because they too are being used by forces outside of their control. They were given a lie that they will be given control over the world, unaware that the way they treat their pawns is how they will be treated by their masters. When time comes and their usefullnes is over, Israel too will be destroyed, along with most of Mossad.

Because only when everything has collapsed and everything is in disarray, when there is total chaos and nothing is predictible, only then people will accept a True Savior (TM) that will come and unite the world.
Whoever, or Whatever, that Savior will be.
 
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