Collectivism.

Heuristic

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Having visited here for years, I never felt comfortable with the emphasis on "networking". Networking is a great way to spread either sound information, or blatant propaganda. I enjoy my solitude, butt the creators of Sott, would have me believe that's puts me in the front line as a potential psychopath. Sott, in basic terms is selling a point of view and like all add agencies, largely promote that POV with information that supports it. The link below is a sound argument for freedom through "Individualism." Sott argues for free will to be allowed, but on many occasions I've left this site feeling as though my free will to choose is being judged by my willingness to except the sales pitch being promoted here;it lacking a wide range of ways to look at things. The Cassiopaeans have said, to the effect: an opinion is something that's lacks objective information. Well I would say that Sott and its editors often fall into this trap with a rather subjective point of view based in selective research. Read this and despise for yourself if researching " The Way" to Self realization isn't something worth considering. No one else can do your breathing for you, no matter how big your network is!

https://www.freedomforceinternational.org/collectivism/
 
Hi Heuristic, you can take from Sott and the forum what you find helpful for you and others, and leave the rest. Nobody is judging you or making you believe anything. The key is verification of information, not belief. As for your link discussing individualism vs collectivism: why not take the best of both?
 
Heuristic said:
Having visited here for years, I never felt comfortable with the emphasis on "networking". Networking is a great way to spread either sound information, or blatant propaganda. I enjoy my solitude, butt the creators of Sott, would have me believe that's puts me in the front line as a potential psychopath. Sott, in basic terms is selling a point of view and like all add agencies, largely promote that POV with information that supports it. The link below is a sound argument for freedom through "Individualism." Sott argues for free will to be allowed, but on many occasions I've left this site feeling as though my free will to choose is being judged by my willingness to except the sales pitch being promoted here;it lacking a wide range of ways to look at things. The Cassiopaeans have said, to the effect: an opinion is something that's lacks objective information. Well I would say that Sott and its editors often fall into this trap with a rather subjective point of view based in selective research. Read this and despise for yourself if researching " The Way" to Self realization isn't something worth considering. No one else can do your breathing for you, no matter how big your network is!

https://www.freedomforceinternational.org/collectivism/

Thanks for sharing your point of view, have you an example where you think an article is lacking objective information? Maybe some editors could learn from it as well.
 
This is interesting. I checked out the website Heuristic linked. Currently, I don't see how a growing group of dedicated individualists with shared goals can avoid becoming collectivist by definition - at least in the current world environment. Maybe that's just my mental limitation, but that's what I'm wondering.
 
Hi Heuristic,

I took a quick scan of the link you posted; for the most part I think what was discuss was more of the authorities group mentality, which is also discusses on sott and on the forum. And while I don't want to say it's discouraged; because none of the moderator or editor want to make any one do anything; it's not what they aim for.

Nobody is telling you HAVE to network, it's more of a suggestion. Most of us praise it, and perhaps that's why you feel like it's being sold, or you're being judge for it, but it's because a lot of us have seen the great effects that come from networking.

While it's great to learn on your own, (and trust me, I love being alone) there's truly nothing like getting together with like minded people and truly using all that you've learned. After all, what is knowledge without application?

Another reason why it's encourage is because they are some who won't network (even when they wish too) because they are shy, or they feel like they don't have anything contribute and it's important to assure them that it's a process that begins by starting.

If you choose not to network, that's perfectly fine, but can I ask you, what are you avoiding or afraid of? I know you gave us the link, and you find that to be your view, but I would like to hear it from you.

I guess I shouldn't say afraid or avoiding (because for all I know, you're neither), I'm just curious as to why you find networking so bad, personally?
 
Heuristic said:
Read this and despise for yourself...

Freudian slip?

de·spise
dəˈspīz/
verb
feel contempt or a deep repugnance for.

Could this 'typo' perhaps describe your true feelings towards the Sott website and the work we do here? And if that is the case, why bother to come to a place you are so dissatisfied with to criticize? You could find a forum about individualism or collectivism and post there. Or you could choose to simply stop reading Sott altogether if it makes you feel better.

From your description, I don't think you really understand what "networking" means. And to equate the Sott page with an ad agency trying to "sell" a point of view also shows a lack of understanding about why certain viewpoints are sometimes promoted more than others. Research, experimentation, trial and error, following up sources, studying history, keeping open to new information, all these and more underly every editorial decision made on the Sott page.

I would say it's one of the most objective sources of information on the internet. But I'm probably biased. ;-)
 
Heuristic said:
The link below is a sound argument for freedom through "Individualism."
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Read this and despise for yourself if researching " The Way" to Self realization isn't something worth considering. No one else can do your breathing for you, no matter how big your network is!

I have done and continue to do research on the way to self realization. I would say the term "individuation" as described by psychologist Carl Jung is a way towards "self realization". Individuation is different from individualism. And, that journey towards individuation inevitably leads to a deeper relatedness with others. This is an empirically verifiable fact for anyone who seriously follows this path and reads about experiences of others who have walked the walk.

[quote author=Heuristic]
I enjoy my solitude, butt the creators of Sott, would have me believe that's puts me in the front line as a potential psychopath. Sott, in basic terms is selling a point of view and like all add agencies, largely promote that POV with information that supports it.
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Sott argues for free will to be allowed, but on many occasions I've left this site feeling as though my free will to choose is being judged by my willingness to except the sales pitch being promoted here;it lacking a wide range of ways to look at things. The Cassiopaeans have said, to the effect: an opinion is something that's lacks objective information. Well I would say that Sott and its editors often fall into this trap with a rather subjective point of view based in selective research.
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The phenomenon of falling into subjective points of view based on selective research is widespread. IMO, it is very much evident in this thread itself where you provided a link to a site that can be considered to be related to what SOTT does in a very tangential way, and that too by using a very big stretch of imagination.

I am assuming you do wish to walk the path towards self realization. Based on that assumption, and since you took the time to share a link with the forum which you thought could benefit the forum , here is something that you may want to consider for yourself.

[quote author=ML Von Franz in Archetypal Dimensions of the Psyche]
When we give up the quest for rational and external solutions to our difficulties and begin to look within us to see what is amiss with us there, initially, as Jung showed, we discover all kinds of aberrant, suppressed, and forgotten psychic tendencies and thoughts, which for the most part are incompatible with our conscious view of ourselves. In our dreams these tendencies often take the form of our "best enemies", for they are in fact a kind of enemy within us - though sometimes not so much an enemy as someone we utterly loathe. This aspect of us Jung called the shadow.

If we do not see our own shadow, we project it onto other people, who then have a fascinating effect on us. We are compelled to think of them all the time; we get disproportionately stirred up about them and may even start to persecute them. This does not mean that certain people whom we hate are not also in truth intolerable; but even in such cases we could deal with them in a reasonable manner or avoid them - if they were not the projection of our own shadow, which never fails to lead us into every possible exaggeration and fascination.
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Why visit for years, if you don't like the place you're visiting? Wouldn't it make more sense to visit places you like for years instead?
 
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