"Collusion" documentary reveals Thatcher govt directed terrorists in N. Ireland

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An Irish documentary broadcast on RTE reports on three decades of collusion between the British government and terrorist groups in Northern Ireland.

There's an article up on Sott about it:
Irish documentary "Collusion" reveals Thatcher gov't directed terrorist groups in Northern Ireland

Where it states:
In 1974, a coordinated attack was launched in the Irish cities of Dublin and Monaghan. On May 17, three car bombs were detonated during rush hour in the nation's capital. Only 90 minutes later, a fourth explosion went off in Monaghan, just south of the border with Northern Ireland. Thirty-three people were killed. An estimated 300 were injured.

The loyalist paramilitary group Ulster Volunteer Force claimed responsibility for the attack, and in a recent Irish documentary, "Collusion," a member of the group claims that the bombings were conducted under direction from the British Army. The goal: to implement a civil war.

Joe has been writting about this for years; see his Sott Focus:
The British Empire - A Lesson In State Terrorism

Good to see this getting some attention. Worth spreading around.

The documentary is currently available on youtube here:

 
Swift action by RTE and the youtube video linked above is now blocked. A shame because this is a deeply important story that needs a wider audience.

Here's another from PressTV dealing with similar issues of state collusion in political murder in Northern Ireland:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swHhb3dF86s

A model of divide and keep conquered that was then rolled out across the Middle East and beyond (Northern Ireland always was a 'live' training ground for psychopathic British tactics). Grim.
 
Michael BC said:
Swift action by RTE and the youtube video linked above is now blocked. A shame because this is a deeply important story that needs a wider audience.

Haven't watched it all, but, as with most mainstream treatises on such things, it doesn't really go far enough in telling the whole truth.
 
I was hoping that this documentary would tie in the Royal Order of Orange (Orangeman) directly to the commanders in the British commanders in charge of the operations during the "Troubles", but it was deleted before I had a chance to watch it.

In Canada, we've had a long history of Orangemen (including our first Prime Minister) infiltrating military, political and criminal organizations who have set out to attack and de-legitimize any efforts of self-determination or self-government by Aboriginal, Metis or Quebecois organizations because they were non-anglo. I've always suspected that the Order of Orange had a hidden hand behind the majority of the conflicts in Northern Ireland.

There's some fascinating connections highlighted in Bramley's "The Gods of Eden" documenting the Order of Orange back to wars dating to the 17th century.
 
The links between the Orangemen, paramilitary groups such as the UVF and the British establishment do indeed run deep (remember the British Conservative party is actually the Conservative & Unionist Party). When the UVF was set up to oppose Home Rule in 1912-13 it was led by crypto-fascists such as Edward Carson (who went on to be a British Cabinet Minister and one of the few non-monarch’s - along with Margaret Thatcher - to be given a state funeral) and when 100,000 'Ulster Volunteers' marched on display in April 1913 they were reviewed by Andrew Bonar Law, head of the Conservative party and eventual prime minister. They were to be commanded by Sir George Richardson KCB, CSI, CIE, Lieutenant General, British Army (retired!) who had spent his career suppressing native uprisings throughout the empire. The speed of the setting up of the UVF, the scale and efficiency of its organisation, the access to British military training (given by 'retired' officers and NCOs) and the ease with which they armed themselves on an unprecedented scale without any opposition from the British Government (quite clearly through total collusion) speaks for itself. Thus the umbilical links were there right from the get go (and indeed go back to the dawn of the Orange movement) and they never ended. In effect by the 1970s, despite the apparent down grading to an underground para-military group, the UVF was a hit squad for the British establishment/military complex and still remains so to this day - if only in waiting.
 
We'll be talking to Anne Cadwallader in July. She's the author of 'Lethal Allies', possibly the best book (recently published) on this topic. I think this documentary was largely based on her work.
 
Perceval said:
We'll be talking to Anne Cadwallader in July. She's the author of 'Lethal Allies', possibly the best book (recently published) on this topic. I think this documentary was largely based on her work.

Thank's Joe i've picked up the book, I didn't get a chance to look at it yet either, and is usually the case the book is better then
the screen version lol.

link to the book if anyone is interested
_http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00GB1GO8Y/ref=s9_simh_bw_p351_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-3&pf_rd_r=0R7HEHET7QMJK9A8Y2Q0&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=586953587&pf_rd_i=341689031
 
Seaniebawn said:
Perceval said:
We'll be talking to Anne Cadwallader in July. She's the author of 'Lethal Allies', possibly the best book (recently published) on this topic. I think this documentary was largely based on her work.

Thank's Joe i've picked up the book, I didn't get a chance to look at it yet either, and is usually the case the book is better then
the screen version lol.

link to the book if anyone is interested
_http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00GB1GO8Y/ref=s9_simh_bw_p351_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-3&pf_rd_r=0R7HEHET7QMJK9A8Y2Q0&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=586953587&pf_rd_i=341689031

It's an excellent, if harrowing, book that lays the whole deal pretty bare, at least to the extent possible. Of course, no one will ever see the evidence that it was a deliberate and "systemic" policy by British intelligence and the British government to deliberately murder innocent civilians in order to distract from the fact that the source of the problem was British imperialism.
 
Perceval said:
Seaniebawn said:
Perceval said:
We'll be talking to Anne Cadwallader in July. She's the author of 'Lethal Allies', possibly the best book (recently published) on this topic. I think this documentary was largely based on her work.

Thank's Joe i've picked up the book, I didn't get a chance to look at it yet either, and is usually the case the book is better then
the screen version lol.

link to the book if anyone is interested
_http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00GB1GO8Y/ref=s9_simh_bw_p351_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-3&pf_rd_r=0R7HEHET7QMJK9A8Y2Q0&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=586953587&pf_rd_i=341689031

It's an excellent, if harrowing, book that lays the whole deal pretty bare, at least to the extent possible. Of course, no one will ever see the evidence that it was a deliberate and "systemic" policy by British intelligence and the British government to deliberately murder innocent civilians in order to distract from the fact that the source of the problem was British imperialism.

I suppose, but by their fruits you shall know them.
 
Joe. I have long pondered how as the British Establishment allowed the situation in NI to materialise in the late 60’s (a sequence of events they were utterly responsible for) they rapidly saw the opportunity to use the various conflicting 'terrorist' groups as tools in a live training ground exercise for developing and refining tactics for sectarian divide and conquer; hence the longevity of the military mission and the continual ramping up of tensions and outbursts. It's long been known that collusion between the state and the unionist paramilitaries was deep and lasting but what is little known is that at the same time they were infiltrating and guiding the IRA to effect the same (albeit under deeper and more insidious cover).

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/half-of-all-top-ira-men-worked-for-security-services-28694353.html

It is perhaps not totally fair to claim the IRA were completely used but there is significant evidence that this was the subtle case. The whole process of 'game theory' management of the 6 counties really kicked off in the early 1970s with the arrival on scene of General Sir Frank E. Kitson GBE KCB MC & Bar DL (always note the titles before and letters after British army officers - it tells you how deeply embedded into the establishment they are), a true psychopath if ever there was one, a specialist in so called counterinsurgency operations; his strategy included the use of “counter-gangs”, subversion, psychological operations and the creation of covert units such as the despicable 'Military Reaction Force', a classic example of a British army death squad.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_Reaction_Force

He's currently the first high ranking British Official to be sued for his part in a murder.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/apr/27/northern-ireland-general-sued-death-catholic-troubles-heenan-kitson

The pattern he laid down remained the model for the rest of the 'troubles'. I am sure the British shared their tactical lessons and intelligence gathering technics with their American masters and then used these tactics wherever the US/NATO has since rampaged through the Arab/Muslim world. Tony Blair only brought a superfical, enforced end to it all in 1998 on instruction from Washington as the US prepared to roll out 9/11 and beyond (time to close down the distracting and politically difficult training ground – for in a War on Terror, when is a terrorist really a freedom fighter? - and go live globally). A key piece of the preparations jigsaw stretching back to the Oklahoma bombing of 1995 and the first world trade centre hit in 1993.

I really look forward to listening into Anne Cadwallader when she's on SOTT Radio.
 
Michael BC said:
Joe. I have long pondered how as the British Establishment allowed the situation in NI to materialise in the late 60’s (a sequence of events they were utterly responsible for) they rapidly saw the opportunity to use the various conflicting 'terrorist' groups as tools in a live training ground exercise for developing and refining tactics for sectarian divide and conquer; hence the longevity of the military mission and the continual ramping up of tensions and outbursts. It's long been known that collusion between the state and the unionist paramilitaries was deep and lasting but what is little known is that at the same time they were infiltrating and guiding the IRA to effect the same (albeit under deeper and more insidious cover).

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/half-of-all-top-ira-men-worked-for-security-services-28694353.html

It is perhaps not totally fair to claim the IRA were completely used but there is significant evidence that this was the subtle case. The whole process of 'game theory' management of the 6 counties really kicked off in the early 1970s with the arrival on scene of General Sir Frank E. Kitson GBE KCB MC & Bar DL (always note the titles before and letters after British army officers - it tells you how deeply embedded into the establishment they are), a true psychopath if ever there was one, a specialist in so called counterinsurgency operations; his strategy included the use of “counter-gangs”, subversion, psychological operations and the creation of covert units such as the despicable 'Military Reaction Force', a classic example of a British army death squad.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_Reaction_Force

He's currently the first high ranking British Official to be sued for his part in a murder.

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/apr/27/northern-ireland-general-sued-death-catholic-troubles-heenan-kitson

The pattern he laid down remained the model for the rest of the 'troubles'. I am sure the British shared their tactical lessons and intelligence gathering technics with their American masters and then used these tactics wherever the US/NATO has since rampaged through the Arab/Muslim world. Tony Blair only brought a superfical, enforced end to it all in 1998 on instruction from Washington as the US prepared to roll out 9/11 and beyond (time to close down the distracting and politically difficult training ground – for in a War on Terror, when is a terrorist really a freedom fighter? - and go live globally). A key piece of the preparations jigsaw stretching back to the Oklahoma bombing of 1995 and the first world trade centre hit in 1993.

I really look forward to listening into Anne Cadwallader when she's on SOTT Radio.

Indeed, although the tactic wasn't exactly new, having been trialed before in places like Kenya, Malaysia, Cyprus etc. They certainly used the techniques later in Iraq, and are using them now, although in a more complex scenario, in the Middle East.

As for IRA infiltration, it undoubtedly happened. It's a complete nightmare to try and run an organisation like that where the state has overwhelming power and resources. Human nature is far too weak for someone not to be 'turned'. Many probably where when given the alternative of life in prison, or having their families murdered. When that happens, it can very easily destroy the organisation, largely because of the sowing of suspicion. Can you imagine??

But the IRA did respond somewhat effectively to that situation by decentralizing and creating no more than four man units that operated independently and without oversight. They conceived, planned and carried out their own operations without telling anyone. That's what required if you want to have a chance to operate beyond the long finger of the "law".

Good to hear Kitson's been served, although I highly doubt it will do anywhere. They'll probably drag Hutton out to hear the case. He did such a good job as Chief Justice in Northern Ireland during "the troubles" whitewashing state crimes and imprisoning innocent people. He also got MI5 and Blair off the hook for their murder of Dr. David Kelly.
 
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