Comets, Concentration Camps and Ponerology: Connecting the Dots

Cyre2067

The Living Force
I wrote this bit for newsvine, but published it to my livejournal as well and new y'all would enjoy a parousal. It's really an amalgamation of different topics and stories pulled together in order to connection some dots I've seen lying around. The original is here http://cyre2067.livejournal.com/131569.html with links built in, and there are a lot of them. Always interested in what my fellow forumites think of my ramblings, so comments appreciated.

Comets, Concentration Camps and Ponerology: Connecting the Dots by BK, CG, aka Cyre2067

This latest from batmanchester got me thinking, and it was so well done I thought I had to emulate. I hope you don't mind, but I'll be doing a lot of linking in an attempt to connect the dots, so please bear with me.

First I'd like to familiarize the reader with some research regarding comets, their debris and the cyclical nature of their visits to Big Blue Marble. There's an interesting book by Richard Firestone, Allen West, Simon Warwick-Smith The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes: Flood, Fire, and Famine in the History of Civilization. They're all PhDs, one physicist and two geologists so they have the necessary credentials.

The book makes an excellent case for blaming a lot of the mass extinctions, migrations, 'plagues' and other die offs on cometary debris, asteroids and other cosmic junk. I got the hint from this article, and I must admit the author, Laura Jadcyzk-Knight, is much more learned on the topic then I.

In this next one in the series,Mrs. Jadcyzk-Knight dicusses another book about comets and disaster entitled, New Light on the Black Death: The Cosmic Connection by Mike Baillie. Baillie happens to be a dendrochronologist of Queen's University in Ireland. Again credentials we can trust.

Here's what she has to say about it:

I just finished reading this one and all I can say is: Wow! This was an intense book! Not a long one, either - just 208 pages including appendices. It's tight and economical with no wasted words or idle rambling around. Every example and temporary diversion is crucial to the central argument which is - brace yourself for this one - Mike Baillie (yeah, a real scientist and not a crackpot), is saying that the Black Death, one of the most deadly pandemics in human history, said to have killed possibly two thirds of the entire population of Europe, not to mention millions all over the planet, probably wasn't Bubonic Plague but was rather Death By Comet(s)!



She continues to summarize the evidence and Baille's work, it's interesting and worth a read. Continuing right along, her next in the series discusses a paper from 1996 by an astrophysicist from Oxford:

In the meantime, a friend of mine (who is a climate scientist at a major U.S. research facility) turned me on to an interesting find, a paper addressed to the European Office of Aerospace Research and development, dated June 4, 1996, entitled: The Hazard to Civilization from Fireballs and Comets by S.V.M. Clube. (For the uninitiated, Clube is an astrophysicist at the University of Oxford).



Basically what I'm trying to do here is show that there is serious scientific research that shows comet's not only have impacted our world before, causing various degrees of carnage, chaos and destruction - but that they have the potential to do so again. What's also important is that 'mainstream science' is ignoring this potentiality. From her article, Cosmic turkey shoot, LJK summarizes the idea:

After a few circuits through the solar system, some comets "outgas" completely and all that is left is a "very black lump" of any size, typically at least a few kilometers in diameter. The reason a worn out comet is so black is possibly due to the poly-aromatic-hydrocarbons that are concentrated onto the comet's surface like a coating of tar. Such objects, unlike asteroids, are very difficult to spot because they do not reflect light.

Comets also leave trails of dust and debris in the inner solar system and the Earth passes through such periodically. When this happens, there are generally meteor showers which are really particles of comets burning up in the atmosphere.

Comets can also break up in to smaller - but still sizable - chunks.

Now, imagine that in a trail of comet dust, there are also some fairly large chunks of black, un-seeable, comet fragments. If you can't see them, you can't do anything about them. And when they do "hit," they tend to burn up and/or explode violently in the atmosphere (eg Tunguska event), so they don't leave long-lasting traces such as craters for archaeologists to find and say "Yes, the fall of this civilization was due to an assault from outer space." No, there is only fire, death and destruction; sometimes total.

What all this means is that the comet problem does not submit itself to an efficient solution.

The Comet Hazard school scientists propose that the Tunguska event was due to a fragment of Comet Encke. These scientists also now have the FACT of the fragments of Comet Shoemaker-Levy hitting Jupiter in July of 1994 to illustrate the problem we face. The Comet Hazard scientists also think, as mentioned above, that impacts are a lot more frequent than many people suppose.



While preparing this article I happened across another on the vine which seems to lead credence to the above hypothesis: Giant Meteor Fireball Explodes of Northwest US If you've been paying attention to the news you'll see that the incidence of meteorite sightings and explosions have been increasing dramatically.... for an interesting summary you can check out this youtube which I seeded recently.

Coming to Batmanchester's piece, he drives home the point that concentration camps, internment camps, prison camps... whatever you want to call them, have been built around the US for housing large amounts of people. The excuse is immigrant influx or whatever, but when you also consider the Executive Order's he discusses it becomes clear as day that the elite would have no qualms whatsoever locking up Americans in these camps, if need be. If one or more of these meteors were to explode in the US or anywhere on the continent mass migrations would occur, people would be displaced, and refugees created. By creating these camps the elite have demonstrated they are aware of this possibility.

This article just showed up in the SF Chronicle. Again, further demonstration that Concentration Camps - Just like the ones in Nazi Germany - are built and ready to go in the US. I'd like to quote the first few paragraphs from the above to eludicate it's key points:

"The power of the Executive to cast a man into prison without formulating any charge known to the law, and particularly to deny him the judgment of his peers, is in the highest degree odious and is the foundation of all totalitarian government whether Nazi or Communist."

- Winston Churchill, Nov. 21, 1943

Since 9/11, and seemingly without the notice of most Americans, the federal government has assumed the authority to institute martial law, arrest a wide swath of dissidents (citizen and noncitizen alike), and detain people without legal or constitutional recourse in the event of "an emergency influx of immigrants in the U.S., or to support the rapid development of new programs."

Beginning in 1999, the government has entered into a series of single-bid contracts with Halliburton subsidiary Kellogg, Brown and Root (KBR) to build detention camps at undisclosed locations within the United States. The government has also contracted with several companies to build thousands of railcars, some reportedly equipped with shackles, ostensibly to transport detainees.



Railcars with Shackles people. This is friggin serious. I don't mean to sound alarmist but have you gone to a protest? Participated in Online Discussions? Ever questioned authority or spoken out in public? The Authorities are collecting personal information of those who do. In this video, that much is made clear. They're interested in face shots. In part two of the above, it's obvious that the Authorities will respond with violence when confronted with non-violent legal protests. What's key to all this insanity is knowledge of its source: Psychopaths in Power.

This bring us to the last thing I'd like to discuss today is a little known science called Ponerology.

“In the author’s opinion, Ponerology reveals itself to be a new branch of science born out of historical need and the most recent accomplishments of medicine and psychology. In light of objective naturalistic language, it studies the causal components and processes of the genesis of evil, regardless of the latter’s social scope. We may attempt to analyze these ponerogenic processes which have given rise to human injustice, armed with proper knowledge, particularly in the area of psychopathology. Again and again, as the reader will discover, in such a study, we meet with the effects of pathological factors whose carriers are people characterized by some degree of various psychological deviations or defects.”



It's the objective study of Fascism in our world, not as a moral, ethical or ideological conflict but as a natural phenomena. A force of nature that manifests in about 6% of the population taking the form of psychopathy; consciencelessness. If this concept is new to you, please take a moment to familiarize yourself, I'll wait....

These are the people who commit torture, and who argue for it's utility. It is awfully useful to them because when you torture someone they'll often tell you whatever they want to hear, so for Pathocrats, it's an effective way to get 'evidence' in order to bomb the next target on your agenda.

These are also CEOs, Bankers and Politicians who facilitate the rape and pillage of Congo as well as the rest of Africa. Diamonds, Coltan and raw resources are worth millions, if not billions, and psychopaths will do anything to insure they come out on top.

These are men like George Bush, Bill Clinton, Tony Blair, Henry Kissinger, Saddam Hussein, Hitler, Mao Tse Tung, Stalin, Wilhelm II, men who manage to convince us of their normality and who command huge forces of economic, political and military might. They've used our ignorance of their existence to hide themselves behind a Mask of Sanity, and prey upon us as an intraspecies predator.

Some have said Man is the most dangerous animal upon earth, however I'd posit that only a man without a conscience is most dangerous for he cannot be reasoned with, cannot be reproached, and cannot be proven wrong. These men "create reality" by fiat, here's an especially enlightening summation:

The psychopath doesn't lie in the way a normal person lies. Psychopathic lying is not mere deception, it is "creating reality" so that it conforms to the psychopath's wants.

Let me try to explain. The psychopathic reality exists by fiat: they declare things to be so and expect others to accept them. To them, these declarations represent what reality should be, or at least what they think others should accept as reality. "If I say it is so, why shouldn't people believe me?" Just as intelligence is merely an instrument used by the psychopath to fulfill his whims, "facts" are instruments to be used and abused in the same pursuit.

Psychopaths demonstrate an extremely distorted understanding of what we call facts. Normal humans really have difficulty conceiving of this because to us, facts are a basic part of our lives. We live by them, base our assessments and decisions on them. We establish facts, and then test things and establish more facts. When we debate, we start with facts and show how we derive our conclusions from those facts. When we perform such operations, we place value on those "facts" being true.

Psychopaths do not do that. Being devoid of real emotional depth, they have no attachment to the idea of "truth". But, because people project their own internal structure onto the psychopath, most do not understand this. Normal humans try to convince themselves that there is some other reason for this bizarre mental condition. When psychopaths do not deal with facts, we think they must have a good reason for believing what they say, whether through some misunderstood fact or perhaps even delusional thinking. It's hard to comprehend that they lie with such ease. When it becomes clear that the psychopath is lying, we conclude that they must be playing a game with us.

However, just as Cleckley wondered if psychopaths believe their pseudo-emotions are "real", it is difficult to know if they truly believe their pseudo-facts. The present declaration may contradict what they said a moment ago, but this means nothing to them. They make no attempt to deal with the contradiction because, for them, there is no contradiction. Remember, the psychopath cannot process abstractions such as space and time, and what they said a moment ago, under one set of influences, is now past, and therefore no longer exists. It is no longer relevant to the reality he wants to create in the minds of those around him.

In response to the idea that psychopaths actually come to believe there own lies, one can rightly point out: "There was a time when everyone, as far as we know, believed the sun revolved around the earth. That didn't make it so." But, if you ask a psychopath: "Are you saying at that time the sun did, in fact, revolve around the earth - and it was only in obedience to a change in what people believed that the earth came to revolve around the sun?" you will be ignored or accused of twisting the "facts." A normal human would naturally think that the psychopath's refusal to answer the question, their shift to attacking you for misrepresenting the facts and them, is a tacit admission that what they are saying is wrong. But you would be wrong about that. They go right on making declarations and pronouncements about what they are insisting is reality in the face of evidence to the contrary.

The psychopath is so completely self-centered that he thinks others should believe him simply because he says so. Even if he is aware that he is lying at first, his need to be right coupled with his inability to accept any self-critical ideas will convince him that he IS right, after all. He IS telling the truth. How dare these people question his good name! After all, he's the smartest guy he knows, so how could he be wrong?

The popular "you create your own reality" idea of the New Age is one example of how psychopathic thinking has permeated our society. The principle is: "If enough people believe something to be true, then what they believe is what reality IS." Part of psychopaths' special knowledge of normal humans is their observation that humans form beliefs based on what they view as facts. A psychopath becomes an expert at creating "facts" that cause normal people to form beliefs that benefit the psychopath.

Ron Suskind, former Wall Street Journal reporter and author of The Price of Loyalty: George W. Bush, the White House, and the Education of Paul O'Neill, wrote:

"In the summer of 2002, after I had written an article in Esquire that the White House didn't like about Bush's former communications director, Karen Hughes, I had a meeting with a senior adviser to Bush. He expressed the White House's displeasure, and then he told me something that at the time I didn't fully comprehend - but which I now believe gets to the very heart of the Bush presidency.

"The aide said that guys like me were 'in what we call the reality-based community,' which he defined as people who 'believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.' I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. 'That's not the way the world really works anymore,' he continued. 'We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality - judiciously, as you will - we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.'"

They aren't really lying - they're creating "new realities." Nothing of what we call reality is real to them. When a normal human being talks about a chair, the reference is to a chair that sits there on its own legs. It's there whether anyone sees it or not, whether anyone mentions it or not, whether anyone "declares" it to be there or not. It has its own sovereign existence. But that is not so for the true psychopath. The psychopath with his/her infantile internal structure cannot comprehend that anything else exists on its own separate from them. It is only their acknowledgement that makes it real, and they only acknowledge what is significant to them in terms of what they want, what will make them feel good.

When a normal human demands that the declarations of the psychopath should be evaluated, the psychopath will declare that the one making such a demand has no integrity which really means that their position - the psychopath's declaration - is not being supported!

From the psychopathic point of view, the world is like a holodeck. They "declare" things into being. Everything is a hologram. They program the holograms. They interact with them in any way they choose. They have them under total control. When they decide to cancel a hologram, it vanishes.

A hologram is not supposed to think for itself. A hologram is not supposed to measure, evaluate, appraise, etc. Most importantly, a hologram is not supposed to critique its master.

When this does happen, they first chastise it to bring it back into line. If that doesn't work, they "vanish" it. And if they must kill it to do so, that's what happens.

Experience has shown no matter what we say, no matter what we point out, no matter how much evidence is given, it has no meaning for psychopaths. They have one goal: to fool us into classifying them as normal humans so they can continue to deceive us, control us and use us for their own power and glory because that is what makes them feel good.



Given all that I'd like to connect the dots laid out above. Scientists around the world, mostly in Europe, are saying we as a global society are threatened by potential impacts of dark comet debris. This debris is hard to spot because it doesn't reflect light, and when it impacts earth it can cause Tunguska-Event like effects similar to that of a nuclear bomb.

In the last eight years we've seen an administration hell bent on international war, on 'security' and basically they've broken every law we've ever had in order to get it. There pathological thinking has been spread through television and the mainstream media and we can see it manifesting in the law enforcement agencies throughout the country. Now we see this same group building concentration camps and railcars with shackles as well as issuing executive orders out the Wazzzooo about some 'potential crisis' or 'emergency', that would grant them the authority to use them.

They've used their authority to create this 'War on Terror' for the sole purpose of keeping the international community distracted from the very real threat of Cosmic Collisions. If enough people saw through their smoke and mirrors, knew that we might have a global problem to deal with, mankind might awaken. Above all else - that is what they fear.
 
Laura said:
However, just as Cleckley wondered if psychopaths believe their pseudo-emotions are "real", it is difficult to know if they truly believe their pseudo-facts. The present declaration may contradict what they said a moment ago, but this means nothing to them. They make no attempt to deal with the contradiction because, for them, there is no contradiction. Remember, the psychopath cannot process abstractions such as space and time, and what they said a moment ago, under one set of influences, is now past, and therefore no longer exists. It is no longer relevant to the reality he wants to create in the minds of those around him.
Great commentary Cyre. The above quote elucidates in one way why we engage in the Work and the importance of paying attention to objective reality. The Pathocrats, with their pseudo-facts, created a 'reality' that was foisted on our society in the form of laws and morality i.e. religion. Osit

It reminds me of a comment in Meetings with Remarkable Men when Bogachevsky tells Gurdjieff: "Objective morality never changes (True I?), it can only broaden in the course of time. As for subjective morality, it is invented by man(psychopaths) and is therefore a relative conception, differing for different people (politicians, etc:)and different places and depending upon the particular understanding of good and evil prevailing in the given period."

Pathocrats have been in power a long time. Many layers to the onion. Thanks Cyre. Light bulb moment:)

Edit: corrected source
 
ah to be clear that wasn't mine, I think those are Laura's words, in the linked version above I link the "Trick of the Psychopath's Trade" article and that's where the above quote came from.

It is interesting to see where Gurdjieff was hinting at this stuff all along and yet seemingly knew the 'time wasn't right' for him to be broadcasting it openly. I have been reading Beezel's tales again and i noticed that in the first six chapters he mentions 'comets' and 'psychopathy' back to back, within the same 5 pages or so. Caught my eye especially after writing the article.
 
very enlightening article cyre, thanks for posting! well written and tied together succinctly... your last line caught my eye, as it seems to ring very true. it occurred to me (as i struggle with my own fear mechanisms) that i'd never really thought of what the psychopath fears.

Cyre2067 said:
If enough people saw through their smoke and mirrors, knew that we might have a global problem to deal with, mankind might awaken. Above all else - that is what they fear.
i DO think more and more people are beginning to wake up to the symptoms and signs you pointed out in your article. and it seems more and more important, as you have done, to read, learn, test and discover. thanks for adding another possibility to the variable outcomes of this situation - e.g., giving people the tools to assist in the education of those who are also seeking.
 
Cyre2067 said:
A force of nature that manifests in about 6% of the population taking the form of psychopathy; consciencelessness.
Question - Is consciencelessness strictly confined to this 6% through heridity? Or can people become without conscience (psychopath-like) due to certain experiences or conditioning? And what is the difference if any? I may be mistaken but the way I see it there's a real possibility of the lines getting blurred between who is a 'real' psychopath and who is not. Unless a fool proof genetic test could somehow be developed to distinguish a normal person from a psycho, there is always the looming possibility of the witch hunt scenario (if psychopathy/ponerology ever becomes elevated in the public awareness that is).

Cyre2067 said:
These are men like George Bush, Bill Clinton, Tony Blair, Henry Kissinger, Saddam Hussein, Hitler, Mao Tse Tung, Stalin, Wilhelm II, men who manage to convince us of their normality and who command huge forces of economic, political and military might. They've used our ignorance of their existence to hide themselves behind a Mask of Sanity, and prey upon us as an intraspecies predator.
Your mention of an 'intraspecies predator' is really interesting and actually is a helpful way of understanding the problem, I think you should dwell on this aspect some more in the future, and the scientific record seems to validate
the idea -

_http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn10070

_http://marsiam.newsvine.com/_news/2006/02/27/111672-a-good-neanderthal-was-hard-to-find

Ron Suskind said:
From the psychopathic point of view, the world is like a holodeck. They "declare" things into being. Everything is a hologram. They program the holograms. They interact with them in any way they choose. They have them under total control. When they decide to cancel a hologram, it vanishes.
This analogy is a little weird to me, I think it's attributing too much to these individuals. Psychopaths rarely create anything. It seems they are adept at perverting, undermining and making use of existing organizations and institutions that have become indispensable and totally ingrained in our society – these organizations and institutions need to be done away with or at least fundamentally altered in order to remove them from power because otherwise I don't see how it's going to happen. The same coast to coast, interconnected bureaucratic mechanisms that ensure the mail is delivered on time and that pedophiles are monitored can be easily co-opted and used as a weapon against social undesirables and political dissidents. 'The Cunning of History' by Richard L. Rubenstein examines this idea in depth.

The dots you've connected seem to point to the stark reality of our current situation.
Gurdjieff/Ouspensky said:
Q: Is it possible to understand the reason of the muddle? What is the purpose of being made so?
A: To see the danger and to try and begin to understand our situation...in our time the situation in life is becoming more and more complicated and dangerous...It is a mistake to think of our times as being like any other. Now there are exceptional difficulties and exceptional facilities.
If it were general accepted knowledge that dark comet debris swirling around our solar system could impact us at any moment without notice there would be only two likely scenarios borne of such knowledge – mass chaos and a return of absolute fascism, or mass awakening, cooperation and a pooling of all earthly resources to prepare for inevitable future challenges. The first option seems to be the road we are going down at the moment unfortunately.
 
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