Consumers sour on milk exposed to LED light

ianvr

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Now I wonder if LED light can affect the life and taste of milk, what the impact of the LED light on humans can be?

http://www.news.cornell.edu/stories/2016/06/consumers-sour-milk-exposed-led-light

"LED lighting produces a pattern of wavelength that differs from the fluorescent bulbs used to illuminate display cases. LEDs typically emit in the blue spectrum, around 460 nanometers, and produce a broader emission peak than fluorescents. That peak in LED light is near the narrow band where riboflavin absorbs light, a fact the researchers surmise could be selectively destroying the nutrient and damaging the perceived quality of the milk."
 
Hello Ian, the best kind of light for humans is obviously sunlight, which is broad spectrum.
The closest analogy to sunlight used to be incandescent light produced by the old style edison lights.
Other types of light spectrums are produced by carbon arc lamps, fluorescents, which are sodium arcs, neon and argon and mercury lamps, which all produce single frequencies. In order to simulate sunlight with these you would need to use simultaneously several of these types at once.

LED's are a new technology, but the principle remains the same. You need to use multiple light types together to obtain the broadest spectrum.
FWIW.
 
Wait and see (read): _ttp://www.zmescience.com/science/physics/incandescent-bulb-mit-efficient-0423423/

Who says incandescent bulbs have to waste energy: MIT design is more efficient than LEDs

Though incandescent light bulbs have been used to light homes for more than a hundreds years, and still do so in most of the world, these are ridiculously inefficient. This has prompted many governments to completely phase-them out, among which the E.U., Australia, Canada, Russian, as well as the United States. Their place has been taken over by fluorescent bulbs (CFLs), and the even more efficient LEDs. A team at MIT, however, has a bright idea that might revamp the unfavored bulbs. They’ve designed a new sort of incandescent bulb that uses a photonic crystal to recycle the waste energy. The resulting bulbs could be more power and light efficient than anything on the market right now.

The incandescent lamp was the second form of electric light to be developed for commercial use after the carbon arc lamp. It is the second most used lamp in the world today behind fluorescent lamps.

In 1879, Thomas Edison and his researchers at Menlo Park were experimenting with various filaments like carbon, then platinum, before finally returning to a carbon filament. By October 1879, Edison’s team had produced a light bulb with a carbonized filament of uncoated cotton thread that could last for 14.5 hours. They eventually hit the jackpot when they lit a bulb that used a carbonized bamboo filament. It could last over 1200 hours.

Though tweaked and upgraded, the incandescent bulb’s design has changed little since Edison’s days. Incandescent bulbs work by sending electric current through a resistive material. Naturally, this resistive filament will generate a lot of heat. Atoms in the material absorb the energy, which excites electrons around the atoms temporarily jumping an orbit further from the nucleus. Inevitably, it collapses to a lower orbital ejecting energy in the form of a photon.

Heat is constantly emitted around us. There’s no object that doesn’t radiate. We can’t see heat though, not until it reaches just the right intensity and just the right wavelengths. In an incandescent bulb most of the heat energy (95% and greater) is emitted in the infrared spectrum which is just below visible light. The rest of the energy (less than 5%) can be actually seen as it’s emitted in the visible spectrum. This is a basic explanation, and it helps to see an incandescent light bulb as a radiator, that just happens to shine some light. It’s definitely as inefficient as it sounds. LEDs, on the other hand, are at least 10 times more efficient because they work by producing light — heat is just a byproduct.

A paper published in Nature Nanotechnology details a novel way to make way with this horrendous inefficiencies, and put the incandescent bulb back on the map. Their design involves a typical heated metal filament, heat losses and all. The catch is that it’s surrounded by a specially crafted material that absorbs the infrared energy and emits it back to the filament where its re-absorbed and re-emitted.

The material is a photonic crystal made out of abundant elements, in other words cheap. It’s basically made out of a stack of thin layers, deposited on a substrate. “When you put together layers, with the right thicknesses and sequence,” MIT postdoc Ognjen Ilic explains, “it’s possible to get very efficient tuning of how the material interacts with light.”

“The results are quite impressive, demonstrating luminosity and power efficiencies that rival those of conventional sources including fluorescent and LED bulbs,” says Alejandro Rodriguez, assistant professor of electrical engineering at Princeton University, who was not involved in this work. The findings, he says, “provide further evidence that application of novel photonic designs to old problems can lead to potentially new devices. I believe that this work will reinvigorate and set the stage for further studies of incandescence emitters, paving the way for the future design of commercially scalable structures.”

Besides power efficiency, light sources are also rated by luminous efficiency — a measure of how well a light source produces visible light. It is the ratio of luminous flux to power. A conventional incandescent luminous efficiency is between 2 and 3 percent, LEDs stand at about 5 to 20 percent depending on the manufacturing quality. Theoretically, the photonic crystal incandescent bulbs could reach up to 40 percent.

In the lab, though, the team managed only to reach 6.6 percent efficiency. This is a preliminary result, however, and with further tweaking it could be dramatically raised. Already, it seems better than most CFL and LEDs.

The MIT researchers claim this “light recycling” method can be applied to other thermal systems, such as thermo-photovoltaics. These devices absorb energy from the sun or some other source then emit this heat radiation as light which is picked up by a conventional photovoltaic (PV) system. The lighting applications, for now at least, seem to be most promising. Who would’ve thought we would write about incandescent light research in 2016. Just gives to show, I guess, that there is still a massive treasure buried in seemingly obsolete tech.
 
I think the point of the OP is being missed.

He is talking about hight intensity white phosphor-based LEDs. These LEDs use a strong emitter made of InGaN producing a ~460nm relatively narrow peak or energy used as an excitation source for some kind of phosphor substance that will convert the excitation light to a broader white light. However, the phosphor is not completely opaque to the excitation light and will allow some in the final light produced by the LED.

Also, I think there exist some LEDs that use UV as the excitation source, thus leaking UV.

The point is that, even if they look white, those LEDs have strong spectral peak of energy in blue or UV.

Riboflavin excitation range is about 300 to 500nm, it fall in the range of UV to blue.
 
Well, it also depends on the packaging of milk. If it is opaque, little to no light gets through. It's been a long time since I've seen milk in transparent glass or plastic.

But milk is also amongst the greatest food allergens (together with sugar and gluten), so people should do some research about milk before they consume it. In that respect, LED light exposure would be negligible compared to the overall detrimental effects of milk on some people who cannot digest it properly.
 
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