COP 21

[Kisito]

Maybe we do not discuss many of the COP 21, because we are convinced that this is a huge hoax. And that global warming is an illusion. But when we see the French Minister Laurent Fabius and former candidate Al Gore the White House, being so moved, there is reason to believe that COP 21 is perhaps more important than I thought. Of course, I think the leaders of major countries know that there will be no global warming, and it is very easy to sign a temperature rise to 1.5 ° C. But I wondered if it was just the commedie to sell us their new technologies that are stored for a long time! Why the great powers such as China, the United States and Russia, which possess fossil fuels, military weapons and economic power, would they pretend to sign a false agreement, knowing that global warming is a lure ? It seems that the real issue is not the climate temperature emitted by CO2, but social conflicts temperature and issued by a law of attraction, which might exist in a parallel dimension. But this would seem inherently lead to a common cause, that of global warming. I have the feeling that many leaders are aware of the likely future, on the danger of energy (not because of CO2, but a final war). This is certainly possible that diplomacy be held in camera. And it is also possible that alot of new energy sources and technologies have been available for a long time. There seems to be three reasons for this historic agreement. 1. Protecting the planet from destructive war of humanity, changing our energy and current technologies. 2. obliging governments to opt for healthier and cheaper energy (Free -STO), to change the entire social and economic structure. 3. Change the human negative thought that could polarize and create an attraction of materials, comets and terrible climate change. So it seems that when Laura had stressed the fact that if this is not the man who is destroying the planet, the sky that could do it. For our social behavior our thoughts seem intrinsically linked to land attractions. The matter (comets and climate) would seem to be a node of information that would be attracted by the electromagnetism of thought.

 

[mkrnhr]

Well, science has been agonizing for a while, and now she's officially declared dead by the force of law. More importantly, the COP21 agreement, besides being anti-life and a clever money theft, is a step towards agenda 2030 as mentioned at the beginning of the text here: _http://unfccc.int/resource/docs/2015/cop21/eng/l09r01.pdf

Agenda 2030 is here: _https://sustainabledevelopment.un.org/post2015/transformingourworld

Doesn't look good.

 

[mabar]

Well, science has been agonizing for a while, and now she's officially declared dead by the force of law. More importantly, the COP21 agreement, besides being anti-life and a clever money theft, is a step towards agenda 2030 as mentioned at the beginning of the text here: _http://unfccc.int/resource/docs/2015/cop21/eng/l09r01.pdf

Agenda 2030 is here: _https://sustainabledevelopment.un.org/post2015/transformingourworld

Doesn't look good.

No, it does not. A couple of weeks ago I had a conversation with friends, they were being angry/indignanted by a local catholic school decision that, from their point of view was against encyclical Laudato Si, that Pope Francis (Catholic Church) published regarding "dire consequences of human activity".

14. I urgently appeal, then, for a new dialogue about how we are shaping the future of our planet. We need a conversation which includes everyone, since the environmental challenge we are undergoing, and its human roots, concern and affect us all. The worldwide ecological movement has already made considerable progress and led to the establishment of numerous organizations committed to raising awareness of these challenges. Regrettably, many efforts to seek concrete solutions to the environmental crisis have proved ineffective, not only because of powerful opposition but also because of a more general lack of interest. Obstructionist attitudes, even on the part of believers, can range from denial of the problem to indifference, nonchalant resignation or blind confidence in technical solutions. We require a new and universal solidarity. As the bishops of Southern Africa have stated: “Everyone’s talents and involvement are needed to redress the damage caused by human abuse of God’s creation”. [22] All of us can cooperate as instruments of God for the care of creation, each according to his or her own culture, experience, involvements and talents.

15. It is my hope that this Encyclical Letter, which is now added to the body of the Church’s social teaching, can help us to acknowledge the appeal, immensity and urgency of the challenge we face. I will begin by briefly reviewing several aspects of the present ecological crisis, with the aim of drawing on the results of the best scientific research available today, letting them touch us deeply and provide a concrete foundation for the ethical and spiritual itinerary that follows. I will then consider some principles drawn from the Judaeo-Christian tradition which can render our commitment to the environment more coherent. I will then attempt to get to the roots of the present situation, so as to consider not only its symptoms but also its deepest causes. This will help to provide an approach to ecology which respects our unique place as human beings in this world and our relationship to our surroundings. In light of this reflection, I will advance some broader proposals for dialogue and action which would involve each of us as individuals, and also affect international policy. Finally, convinced as I am that change is impossible without motivation and a process of education, I will offer some inspired guidelines for human development to be found in the treasure of Christian spiritual experience.

I search more around it, found out Catholic Church had a workshop with scientists before _http://www.climatechangedispatch.com/a-message-for-pope-francis.html and a letter sent to Pope Francis _http://www.cornwallalliance.org/anopenlettertopopefrancisonclimatechange/ ...in which talk about the hoax -not in that term, though. And, asking Pope Francis advise world leaders to reject the policies ... they just seem to approved in COP21.

The lasts questions regarding Pope Francis at C's session of 13 June 2015, began to have another sense to me:

Q: (L) Okay, now here's another question. I think people will probably be interested in this one. So, let's go with it:

The last couple of months especially, but actually since the new pope Francis came into power, it seems like he is trying to do something good in all sorts of areas. For example he said on more than one occasion how bad war is, that we should stop it, and that the system/governments are the only ones who need war. He said for example that a war with Syria is not a good idea back in 2013 and also wrote an letter to Putin in that respect back then. It almost seems like what he is saying about wars is directed to the war machine of the US-Elite and their followers, and not just a general, "No war anymore". So it is not just that he is saying such things, but he seems to follow his words with actions. Recently, he recognized Palestine as a state, which is quite a big move. He said to Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas in the Vatican, "May you be an angel of peace." Then he recently created, as far as I know for the first time in the history of the church, "a judicial mechanism, a Tribunal for Bishop Negligence in Child Sexual Abuse Cases". In other words, people in the church, that are accused of either covering up or being engaged in sexual abuse of children can now be charged in a tribunal court which is based on a judicial mechanism. Quite a big thing as well.

So is the pope doing all those things because he has a conscience or is there something else behind it, like some kind of plan to appease the people in the world, who more or less wake up and see the propaganda for what it is, in order to bring the Catholic church back "into play" now, or in the near future?

(L) That's a good question.

A: It is a little of both.

Q: (L) So, the guy has a conscience...

(Chu) But he also wants to appease the people...

(Perceval) Well, there's also a power behind the pope. There are a bunch of cardinals who see the problem of everybody leaving and the money flying out of the coffers. They probably picked Francy because he's a nice guy and he wants to do good. Then people will come back to the Catholic Church, and they'll get their money back, and so on.

(L) So, it's basically like psychopaths that come to an understanding that they've gotta put somebody more human out there on the front so that they can survive because their sources are drying up. Is that fairly accurate?

A: More or less. Francis really wants to do good but he also understands the forces in play.

In this precisely issue, I think Pope Francis understoood " the forces in play", because at the end, he represent one of the forces.