" Crystals”

casper

The Living Force
There are currently over 4,000 officially recognized mineral species, some of which have been found to have devastating affects on organic life, despite how indescribably beautiful they can appear to be.
link:
http://timewheel.net/Tome-The-Most-Beautiful-But-Deadly-Crystals-On-The-Planet

also, very interesting Mexican crystal caves ,link:
http://www.crystalinks.com/mexicocrystals.html
video:
https://youtu.be/laMZAJ2L_1Y
 
casper said:
There are currently over 4,000 officially recognized mineral species, some of which have been found to have devastating affects on organic life, despite how indescribably beautiful they can appear to be.
link:
http://timewheel.net/Tome-The-Most-Beautiful-But-Deadly-Crystals-On-The-Planet

also, very interesting Mexican crystal caves ,link:
http://www.crystalinks.com/mexicocrystals.html
video:
https://youtu.be/laMZAJ2L_1Y

Some of them are dangerous indeed! Quoting from the timewheel page:

"If you are interested in creating a mineral collection, do you research and know what you're working with before handling any unknown minerals, especially before ordering any specimen off of the internet and un-boxing it in your home. What starts as a harmless hobby could cost one their life."

Knowledge protects!
 
Wow those are really beautiful specimens! Thanks for sharing this. Around here (Northern Michigan, US), we have a lot of old rock piles from copper mines that were active in the early 1900s, and a lot of copper can still be found in the piles, but you have to be careful because there's also a blue crystalline form of arsenic that occurs naturally with the copper. So I can identify with being careful with crystals, especially the really pretty ones. :evil:
 
Wow! I had no idea that some crystals could be so deadly! I think I'll be sticking to quartz!
 
Last year we took a day trip up to Mason Texas to search for Topaz. When doing some research I cam across this story. There are also other versions of this story that leaves out the radio active parts and makes Wells Fargo to be a strong hero but I thought I would share this interesting bit. The site that I originally read this on is down. The story at the end I thought was kind of funny and I am now also very careful about picking up stones that I do not know what they are from that area.

William E. Hidden was next to a 73-lb. mass of Gadolinite in place at Barringer Hill, 1903.

For four months that winter and six months the following year, a dozen or so miners worked full time for the company, including Tad Casner and Barringer, who was probably once again somewhat of a laughing stock for not getting as much money as he could have for the land. Work was slow because the minerals appeared in pockets. The miners struggled to remove ore using picks, shovels, and dynamite to quarry rock from open 40 foot deep pits around the edge of the mound. Despite the difficulty of their task, the men made progress. By 1904, they had blasted away the top of the hill. A 30 foot high quartz pillar, however, was left standing in the middle of the quarry because it contained almost no rare earth minerals.

Hidden and the miners made many curious discoveries about the minerals at Barringer Hill. Masses of purple and green coarsely crystallized fluorite up to 400 pounds were fairly common, as were enormous crystals of feldspar, some over five feet in diameter. From a cavity big enough to hold a horse, the miners removed a 600 pound single smoky quartz crystal which measured 43" X 28" X 15".

Other rock samples were radioactive, such as a seventy-three pound double crystal of gadolinite. Even seemingly common minerals could be radioactive. For example, in a 1905 publication, Hidden mentions that much of the fluorite from Barringer Hill exhibited "brilliant green light when strongly heated and viewed in the dark," and one piece was "self-luminous at night without heat."


73 Pound double crystal of gadolinite


18 Pound mass of Yttrialite


More ominous still were crystals taken from areas where the rock matrix contained radiating lines that resembled stars. The stars possibly formed when rare earth elements crystallized from the magma before the quartz in the matrix did, thus causing the quartz to crack as it accommodated itself to the incompressible crystals.


70 Pound mass of mixed zirconium-yttrium-uranium and thorium ore which was a nucleus to one of the "stars"

Hidden writes that while removing a mass of mixed zirconium-yttrium-uranium and thorium ore from one of the stars, his hands and face began to burn as if from the effect of strong sunlight. After two or three days of mining, he felt soreness in the parts of his hands and face that had been directly exposed to the minerals.

Because the effects of radiation were not well understood at the turn of the century, Hidden could only speculate as to the cause of his curious symptoms. He reports.

My assistant (Mr. J. Edward Turner) asked me "if these minerals could be poisonous?" As no arsenic was present . . The thought came to me that this action might be the work of a radio-active element and it is offered now more as a suggestion than as a proven fact. William Hidden was not the only employee Nernst/Westinghouse sent to work at Barringer Hill. In 1903, Marshall Hanks, the engineer who had improved the Nernst Lamp, arrived to run the mining operation. Although Hidden, at least in his writings, seemed to find no fault with the Hill Country or its inhabitants, Hanks did not fare as well. Hanks was unpopular with the miners because he kept secrets from them. In addition, he had heard many stories about what murderers and scoundrels Texans were. The miners, therefore, took every opportunity to play pranks on this "green as a gourd" Yankee.

In 1904, Westinghouse had enough gadolinite to suit its needs and decided to recall Hanks. Availing themselves of this last, great opportunity, the miners decided to play one final trick on their boss. At that time, Wells Fargo was in charge of shipping Barringer Hill ore out of Kingsland by train, so the miners brought the Wells Fargo express agent in on the prank. The agent convinced Hanks that the only way he would get out of Texas alive was to mail himself to Pennsylvania in a crate of ore.

After he was loaded up, the miners pretended to search for him in the baggage car. Just as they threatened to shoot at the crates to flush him out, the agent bellowed out, "You fellows better not mess with Wells Fargo! Get out of this baggage car!" Hanks escaped in the crate and always believed the miners had wanted to kill him. Like Hidden, his life does not seem to have been cut short due to exposure to radioactive materials, and he went on to have an illustrious engineering career in Pennsylvania.
For several years, the Nernst Lamp Company continued to annually extract a few hundred pounds of yttria minerals from Barringer Hill. Eventually, however, Nernst ceased operations as newer technologies surpassed the lamp.

From the time mining operations ended until the building of Buchanan Dam flooded the area, Barringer Hill was of interest primarily to mineralogists. One of the best collections of minerals from the area was that of Tillie Badu Moss, Professor Badu's daughter. Among her specimens were pieces of quartz which had been beautifully colored through exposure to radiation. According to Tillie Badu Moss specimens are to be found in many museums, including the Houston Museum of Natural History and the New York Museum of Natural History. The University of Texas at Austin also possesses a number of rocks from Barringer Hill, including the 600 pound smoky quartz crystal that so impressed William Hidden.

For many years, it was displayed on the Little Campus at UT until renovation began in the 1970's. Like many other exotic Texas mineral specimens, it is now squirreled away as part of the geology department's Barron Collection. (Note: Since the original publication of this article in 1996 we have been contacted by Rob Reed, a doctoral candidate at UT who is doing research on the granites in the vicinity of Barringer Hill. He once had a summer job updating the cataloging of the Barron Collection and has no recollection of a 600 lb. smoky quartz crystal.)

Other crystals found their ways into museum collections across the country. For instance, the Smithsonian Institute has a large, faceted piece of gadolinite that was once part of a neckdrop. Supposedly the radioactivity from this gem led to the premature death of its original owner.
 
Laura said:
Wow! I had no idea that some crystals could be so deadly! I think I'll be sticking to quartz!

Yes, I have gotten information that quartz is a good choice for crystals.

In fact, that is where the crystal cave is located.
 
Horseofadifferentcolor said:
[..] Among her specimens were pieces of quartz which had been beautifully colored through exposure to radiation.

I guess colored quartz is out of the question. Only transparent quartz appears safe. Then a pass with a radioactivity detector as another measure.
 
So, if we wanted to mail our crystals to the team in France, we would have to run a geiger counter over them first.

If people are not experts in the field of minerals, they could find that some of the crystals in their possession might be toxic or radioactive, and not be aware of this.

Even handling a radioactive object could prove to be the end of you.
The iodine protocol may offer some protection.
Is there a minerals expert in the crew?

This might be a timely caution.
 
It might help or it is a lie, I do not know :huh:

http://www.sobrietystones.com/resources/spiritual_healing_a.htm
 
FWIW, many common forms of colored quartz, (smokey, amethyst and some types of rose quartz, for instance), are not radioactive, but rather, have been irradiated by something in their growth environment. So they're safe to handle.

[...] The color of smoky quartz is caused by irradiation and traces of aluminum built into its crystal lattice. Aluminum replaces silicon to form a [AlO4]- group instead of [SiO4]. To compensate for the imbalance of charge in the lattice, small monovalent cations (H+, Li+ or Na+) are built into the lattice, as well. High energy radiation transfers the extra electron from [AlO4]- to the cation, and a color center is formed. Interestingly, H+ seems to interfere with this process, and higher concentrations of built-in hydrogen inhibit the formation of color-centers[1]. In normal geological environments this process can only take place at temperatures below 50°C, otherwise the rate of color center destruction surpasses that of color center formation. So the color of the crystals appeared long after the crystals have grown. It is estimated that it takes several million years for a crystal to assume a deep color in a granite of average composition.

[...] It's still common practice to artificially irradiate colorless quartz and sell it as smoky quartz. On big fairs, dealers are obliged to clearly label that quartz accordingly, but it's impossible to tell whether the source of the irradiation was natural or not just by looking at the crystals, so some dealers don't do that and get away with it. In the U.S.A. a lot of produce gets irradiated with gamma rays as a means of sterilization, and a box of white quartz just needs to be put on the same conveyor belt as the tomatoes for a couple of times. Often the dealers overdo it and the crystals turn out suspiciously black.
http://www.quartzpage.de/smoky.html

Rose Quartz comes in a couple of different varieties, one of which, a lower grade very common form, takes its color from a mineral additive, while the less common crystalline form is, like Smokey Quartz, is the result of exposure to radioactive decay happening somewhere nearby, but the crystal itself is not radioactive.

But there ARE definitely radioactive minerals out there. -Even some granite kitchen counter tops have been found to release radon from certain impurities in the hodge-podge mix of minerals which makes up the stone! It depends where it was quarried.

-There are lots of rockhound websites out there with people more than willing to share their knowledge, so if you have some crystals you're not sure about, it's a good idea to look them up. (I don't know this stuff like I used to back when I was a junior rockhound kid, but some of it stuck. :) )
 
Yeah, that quote from Wikipedia about the amethyst was good. I did search other sites and tried to bring a link but my little android isn't up to the task, sorry!

The site is crystalsrocksandjems.com. In the site, which I thought was pretty good, the metaphysical aspects of purple quartz are quite a few. Or at least there are a lot of claims made about it.
 
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