Cyclical energy draining by psychopaths?

[domi]

Hi all,

I was reading Cleckley's The Mask of Sanity last night and the following passage got stuck in my mind:

They make a nuisance of themselves to
the community as a whole and often tragically wreck the lives of those close to them,
and all to no discernible end. The police and the courts tire of them. Through various
influences they are forced back on the mental hospitals where they take legal action to
regain their freedom, only to begin the process again.
(pg 99, goto pg 115 in the pdf)

It seems this is some sort of mechanism to grind us down/drain us and transfer energy to 4D STS on a regular basis. No wonder the STS gang like these psychopath humanoids, they are hopelessly broken, relentless and very wired to reproduce (there are numerous examples of sexual promiscuity in the book)

Thank you Laura and QFG for this book, it is a real gem. Cleckley's writing style is quite rich and he conveys the subtleties well:

What might be called a thin and bright
surface of sincerity which is hard to indicate without paradox seemed to distinguish him
from his fellows who are also described in this book.

Dominique.

 

[propaganda]

My experience would have to agree. After I finally got away from the psychopathic ex, I went through a long period of exhaustion and illness, none of which the doctors could find cause. I am still not 100%. It is my belief that she sapped my energy, maybe subconsiously, perhaps intentionally. It's like food for them, the suffering of others.

 

[Laura]

It seems that everyone who has reported interaction with the psychopathic type in its various manifestations report this exhaustion and physical illness. And yes, it does seem to be cyclic. They will take a person down as far as they can, or dare, and then they back off, try to act nice, make promises to reform or just simply behave as normally as possible while the individual regains their strength (assuming they can), and begin all over again. Of course, if the person is so down and depleted, they may just move on...

 

[Tigersoap]

If the attacks are cyclical, then there is probably a chance to learn the lesson and break free from the loop, no ?

I may be wrong but I always consider everything as being cyclical.

 

[Miss Isness]

It seems to me that there's more to it than learning the lesson, in the sense that there are also practical issues to consider like getting the resources together to relocate, possibly create a new source of income, essentially making sure that you don't jump out of the frying pan into the fire. After all, if you've been set up in a close relationship with a psychopath it could be that your potential has already been recognized and there are dark forces intent on making your life as difficult as possible. So, before one can break free, it's necessary to stock up on both physical and non-physical resources in order to make the transition. The attacks may be cyclical but I don't think we are talking about predictable cycles, and chances are that psychopaths can sense when their prey is becoming less susceptible to their deception and manipulation, and gaining enough strength to get out of dodge, and that means it's feeding time.

I'm still new at all this, but I had relationships that have had strong negative impacts on my health. I don't know if these two people were psychopaths, but I do know that they weren't easy to get away from.

 

[Guest]

And yes, it does seem to be cyclic. They will take a person down as far as they can, or dare, and then they back off, try to act nice, make promises to reform or just simply behave as normally as possible while the individual regains their strength (assuming they can), and begin all over again. Of course, if the person is so down and depleted, they may just move on...

The attacks may be cyclical but I don't think we are talking about predictable cycles, and chances are that psychopaths can sense when their prey is becoming less susceptible to their deception and manipulation, and gaining enough strength to get out of dodge, and that means it's feeding time.

I think that what is implied here is that the cycles are based on feedback between victim and psychopath, and hence not necessarily predictable. And I thing practical issues are certainly taken into account by the psychopath who drains the victim so they do not have the wherewithal to collect resources and make a move.

I think the energy one has is proportional to the ability to amass resources, as long as the resources involve only the liberation of the victim and not others (like starting a group dynamic). In that case the resistance is amplified to the degree individuals with a great amount of personal energy might feel it falling into a bottomless pit regarding promoting information that threatens not just one or a few psychopaths, but the prevalence of psychopathy itself.

Psychopaths are masters at consuming life force, in ways that most likely require a lot of thinking outside the box if one is to fully understand them. If they are a subspecies (with many variants or "breeds") then they have a sort of group consciousness as well, most evident in Pathocratic systems, but probably going beyond them.

Dealing with psychopaths on the individual level, IMO, is a necessary first step. We can also consider this cyclic nature of psychopathic intrusion on the collective or historic scale.

 

[iloveyoghurt]

Offering another perspective here,

perhaps the strategies used to sow and harvest from the victim are simply repeated, ie, no, not cyclical. The difference I speculate being - the concept of repetition implies a beginning point, and an end point, it also suggest that it is outcome driven. In contrast to process driven, as I think is the case when something is cyclical.

The recovery period of the victim is driven by the natural force of survival. It is during this period - perhaps - that the psychopath sits back allowing the recovery period to take place naturally, as a farmer would with a crop. Continuing with this analogy, the victim is like a new seed germinating (regenerating), reaching once again for the sun, the psychopath, like the farmer, harvests the energy at the optimal moment.

To "allow nature to take it's course" during the regeneration period is actually a resourceful use of the psychopaths energy (which is an efficiency seen in all places of nature). Leaving nature alone to do this without interference makes perfect sense; psychopaths understand the laws and how to work with them (working against the laws is absolutely inefficient), to interfer would equally waste the psychopaths energy.