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Cyre2067

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So it seems that the PTB are pushing Brown's book. The movie release makes it widely available to all those who haven't succombed to the book (that's me!) although i must admit i did read Angels and Demons (found it to be lacking in the prior and the latter). Thus this post which is an attempt to get some opinion from the good folk on the matter.

To me it seems that Brown's interpretation is a blend of fact and fiction, similiar to most COINTELPRO, at least the really good stuff. I mean, anything that gets this much attention must naturally be COINTELPRO, right?

My big question is what exactly has a factual basis and what is fiction, which is the hook and which the bait? To me the bait seems to be our innate feeling that the traditional Jesus mythology is way off, and by way off I mean, purposefully misleading. The Truth (in As&Ds) being more allegorical in nature then literal, IE the Jesus story is wrong, in part, and in that part which matters that most. Where the lies come with the he married mary magdeline, had a child, etc. That being the "hook". Thus the control system is adapting, "Oh you have a problem with our outdated propoganda? He's some new stuff, updated for the 'times'!"

Jest wonderin', it's what i do best.
 
Cyre2067 said:
So it seems that the PTB are pushing Brown's book...[]...My big question is what exactly has a factual basis and what is fiction, which is the hook and which the bait?
I think it's just about making money.
1. Brown's book (that I have but not read - it's kind of on the bottom of the pile) is a novel that means fiction by definition. No fictious story stands in limbo. One has to be able to relate, that's why one researches stuff for even a fictious story.
2. Brown hit a nerve and whether or not his info is true or false doesn't matter in a greater context as his book most definitely sparked the interest of a lot of people that where previously completely asleep.
3. That made him a lot of money in the process - God bless him!
4. Now the greedy people walk in to exploit the story for a movie. The point here is to make more money! It's however save to say that in a COINTELPRO fashion anything too revealing or really controversial will be sanitized or twisted beyond recognition.
5. As the PTB think they are in control they probably do see this as a great way for more disinformation that will make a s***load of money.

What I am hoping for is, that in their arrogance the PTB will fail to see how that move might even inspire more people to follow up with their own research. At the same time I am realistic enough to see that this is a slim chance as Tom Hanks stars in it.

Has anybody ever seen Tom Hanks in a movie of any real relevance????

One can control all people for some time and one can control some people all the time, but one cannot control all people all the time!
 
Fifth Way said:
Cyre2067 said:
So it seems that the PTB are pushing Brown's book...[]...My big question is what exactly has a factual basis and what is fiction, which is the hook and which the bait?
I think it's just about making money.
1. Brown's book (that I have but not read - it's kind of on the bottom of the pile) is a novel that means fiction by definition. No fictious story stands in limbo. One has to be able to relate, that's why one researches stuff for even a fictious story.
2. Brown hit a nerve and whether or not his info is true or false doesn't matter in a greater context as his book most definitely sparked the interest of a lot of people that where previously completely asleep.
3. That made him a lot of money in the process - God bless him!
4. Now the greedy people walk in to exploit the story for a movie. The point here is to make more money! It's however save to say that in a COINTELPRO fashion anything too revealing or really controversial will be sanitized or twisted beyond recognition.
5. As the PTB think they are in control they probably do see this as a great way for more disinformation that will make a s***load of money.
Based on what I see it's not about money, it's about misleading people. Funny how the Da Vinci Code book focuses on a painting that is chock full of pointers. Maybe Dan Brown isn't conscious of what he's doing. I don't know.

Have you read Laura's article, "Fulcanelli and the Da Vinci Code" ?


Fifth Way said:
What I am hoping for is, that in their arrogance the PTB will fail to see how that move might even inspire more people to follow up with their own research. At the same time I am realistic enough to see that this is a slim chance as Tom Hanks stars in it.

Has anybody ever seen Tom Hanks in a movie of any real relevance????
Weird thinking... Anyway, Castaway is excellent. Relevance is often relative to the observer, so in other words in a lot of ways we see what we want to see. Could be that is why I think Castaway is an excellent movie.

Fifth Way said:
One can control all people for some time and one can control some people all the time, but one cannot control all people all the time!
We're all controlled until we truly become free. Bummer as that may be, it seems to be so.
 
Brent, check out this website: http://priory-of-sion.com/ I think it is linked from one of Laura's articles on the subject. While its purpose is to debunk the entire Rennes phenomenon, I can't help but think that Paul Smith throws the baby out with the bathwater. For example, check out his priory-related booklist (http://priory-of-sion.com/posd/hbhgchildren.html). Here's what he says:
Smith said:
The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail has a lot to answer for - having spawned a whole plethora of "non-fiction" titles that are nothing but good examples of pseudo-history - with the various theories not being based upon historical evidence but rather upon desired beliefs. The Bibliography below listing the English-Language Titles on the Priory of Sion and Rennes-le-Ch
 
Cyre2067, If you haven't you might want to read The Grail Quest (http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/grail.htm) by Laura. Specifically part http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/grail_5f.htm onward. I read The Da Vinci Code a few months before finding SOTT, etc. and would say it peaked my interest to read and learn more.
I don't know how much the PTB have promoted the DVC. My experience is that its popularity spread more by word of mouth and people recommending it to others.
 
Has anyone read Whitley Streiber's "The Key"? I have a few of Mr. Streiber's books-and know he is usually considered "cointelpro" by many on this site-but some of the material that supposedly appears in this book may tie into hyperdimensional beings and time travel. Just curious-I have considered purchasing a copy.
 
To digress a little, but hopefully not too much - Today I went down to Notre Dame de France (the church with the Cocteau fresco that features in one those 'Holy Blood' type books) and took a photo of the "M" symbol in the domed ceiling (which is apparently symbolic of Cassiopaea.

It's on my Flickr page. You need to blow it up a bit to get a good look at it:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/62307752@N00/

The domed ceiling also looks, perhaps coincidentally, a bit like the Subud symbol.
 
Fifth Way said:
Has anybody ever seen Tom Hanks in a movie of any real relevance????
DonaldJHunt said:
Volunteers (1985) with Tom Hanks and John Candy is hilarious and relevant.
And I would add The Green Mile to that one Donald, and The Man With One Red Shoe. I don't know what is or isn't relevant, but I do think those three are darn good flicks :cool:
 
My favorite part of Volunteers is when John Candy converts to communism, joins the guerilla movement then teaches the cadres the Washington State fight song.

beau said:
Fifth Way said:
Has anybody ever seen Tom Hanks in a movie of any real relevance????
DonaldJHunt said:
Volunteers (1985) with Tom Hanks and John Candy is hilarious and relevant.
And I would add The Green Mile to that one Donald, and The Man With One Red Shoe. I don't know what is or isn't relevant, but I do think those three are darn good flicks :cool:
 
so is anyone considering seeing the movie? i think it would probably be entertaining at least. maybe even at least to see what message theyre projecting en masse. often i come out of movies thinking about the relevance of such things.
 
DonaldJHunt said:
My favorite part of Volunteers is when John Candy converts to communism, joins the guerilla movement then teaches the cadres the Washington State fight song.
LOL! Yeah, Candy is totally brainwashed by those Commies. And there's the part when Candy falls into the tiger trap running away from a tiger. Classic irony :)



p.s. apologies for the temporary hijacking of this thread. game on...
 
I'll see it only so i can identify how they are trying to manipulate the masses. I can't watch TV and do the same thing because its too obvious in my mind and thus starts to psychically "hurt". I dont like Tom Hanks (I think he is a "tool") and so if i enjoy his on-screen performance it will be the first in a long long time. I kinda wanna see volunteers now thou....
 
I agree about Hanks in the post-Gump era. I like his earlier, cynical comedy roles. I thought he was good in Dragnet as well.

TV shows also make my head hurt for the same reason.

Cyre2067 said:
I'll see it only so i can identify how they are trying to manipulate the masses. I can't watch TV and do the same thing because its too obvious in my mind and thus starts to psychically "hurt". I dont like Tom Hanks (I think he is a "tool") and so if i enjoy his on-screen performance it will be the first in a long long time. I kinda wanna see volunteers now thou....
 
We start to see the movie yesterday... and I don't know if we will finished it. I did not read the book and will not. The movie is an imbroglio. I understand nothing. Well done movie with a lot of money put in it. But I don`t know what they are talking about! Ok, I know but it is so complicated that I am sure just the director is aware of what is happening. :shock:
 
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