Dear dairy

[liffy]

Hi folks,
after reading in this section of the forum for a while, a zero tolerance policy to dairy seems to be preferred for optimal health. My question concerns dairy products that do not contain carbohydrates; such as a variety of cheeses, cream, and so on. Are these really harmful? Is there something necessarily present in anything that is produced from milk, or is it really the lactose that is of a primary concern?

As far as my nutritional knowledge reaches, there seems to be nothing wrong with the protein that comes from milk, as it is merely a composition of amino acids, actually a rather complete one, whereas the fats seem to be quite similar to those in meat.

If the questions listed in this post has been brought up somewhere else in the forums I'll have to apologize my additional inquiry, and would appreciate a hint to where a discussion/explanation of this could be found.

Sincerely,
liffy

 

[Gimpy]

Hi liffy, welcome to the forum.

Try a search on casein, the protein in dairy products, for more information.



Casein and lectins (found in beans) cause body wide inflammation...some people don't react to them right away. If I eat beans, my joints are inflamed the next day.

I've had servers in restaurants promise to leave cheese out of my food, and ended up finding it on the bottom of the dish, halfway through eating it. In those cases, that little bit of cheese didn't leave any immediate symptoms. That doesn't mean I'd agree to put cheese back into my diet though, inflammation of any kind is to be avoided. Remember, everyone is different...some people may be able to tolerate cream or cheese in moderation, food testing is a good way to find out if you're sensitive.

Good luck in your searches.

 

[liffy]

Thanks for the helpful reply, Gimpy.

I do realize that tolerance to certain foods vary on an individual level, and it seems that this body I possess doesn't react negatively to casein; but I might try a certain period without any, and see if my well-being increases (quite good at the moment, though).

 

[anart]

Thanks for the helpful reply, Gimpy.

I do realize that tolerance to certain foods vary on an individual level, and it seems that this body I possess doesn't react negatively to casein; but I might try a certain period without any, and see if my well-being increases (quite good at the moment, though).

Try at least two weeks with zero dairy products (including goat/sheep dairy). Then, ingest a decent amount at one sitting and note how your body reacts not only immediately, but over the next three days. I have yet to meet anyone who wasn't sensitive (negatively) to dairy. It should be interesting! :)

 

[Mr.Anderson]

I couldn't believe I had to give up fresh raw goat milk. but I did and am healthier for it.

 

[liffy]

Try at least two weeks with zero dairy products (including goat/sheep dairy). Then, ingest a decent amount at one sitting and note how your body reacts not only immediately, but over the next three days. I have yet to meet anyone who wasn't sensitive (negatively) to dairy. It should be interesting! :)

I'll give it a try, anart. Results will be posted. :)

 

[liffy]

Until today it had been a few months since I had any casein-dominated dairy, (meaning I've been using butter), and today I had a decent chunk of parmesan cheese together with my eggs and bacon. This was two hours ago, and all seems to be going along just fine.

I'll give another update tomorrow if I have any adverse reactions, but so far it looks like my digestive system is pretty well armed for sticky business.

One thing I noticed was that it simply wasn't as tasty as I used to think it was, so I don't think it'll be a staple in my diet even if all things go well during the next few days.

It is a good thing though, that I now know I won't have to say no to food that contains cheese, meaning a few less weird comments around the dinner table; though I tend to enjoy these comments, because they open up for a bit of discussion on why I eat the way that I do.