Did a meteor cause the Colorado wildfires?

theos

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This just made me go hmmm? I found it odd that reporters are being blocked from accessing the damage in the CO wildfires as written about in this article carried on SOTT:

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/246952-Law-enforcement-restricts-media-wildfire-coverage

Law enforcement's angle is they want to protect the privacy of the residents and make sure they are the first ones to see the damage done. Umm, they really care that much huh? They've got to be hiding something right?

Earlier today my mother said she saw on the news that some planes were grounded due to a meteor in the area. She caught the end of it and waited to see if it would air again. It didn't. She found it puzzling that the station didn't keep repeating the story as they usually do.

I looked on youtube and saw this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Jz9G2mahnQ
There's a link to a story carried by the AP

AP) -- Authorities grounded firefighting aircraft battling an out-of-control blaze scorching central Colorado on Wednesday, reacting with caution to witness reports of meteor sightings.

The temporary move came amid several reported sky sightings near the fire burning 1,100 acres, or nearly 2 square miles, west of Colorado Springs.

Chaffee County Sheriff W. Peter Palmer said his office received multiple reports, including one person who thought a meteorite might have landed in a wooded area north of Buena Vista. Palmer said officials could not confirm that report.

Meanwhile, the crew of a heavy air tanker spotted something while making a slurry run on the blaze, said Steve Segin, a spokesman for the U.S. Forest Service.

"They weren't sure what it was," Segin said, confirming the report of a possible meteor shower.

The SOTT article mentions northern CO and the AP article talks about central CO...but it's interesting nonetheless.
 
FWIW, Odyssey, I was wondering the same thing. As well, it seems odd that no one has posted/reported pictures or videos of the recent meteor sighting (if that's what it was).

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/246987-Possible-Meteor-Streaks-Across-Summit-County-Sky-Wednesday

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/246986-Fireball-Possible-Meteor-Grounds-Tankers-Fighting-Springer-Fire
 
This article says the fire started from gunshots and exploding targets: http://www.gazette.com/articles/fire-140602-wednesday-fires.html

I've been combing the internet this morning for any pic/video of the alleged meteor(s) and can't find a thing except this uncredited pic from _http://www.thetruthbehindthescenes.org/2012/06/21/meteor-shower-grounds-four-firefighting-planes-in-colorado-june-20-2012/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheTruthBehindTheScenes%2FihiN+%28THE+TRUTH+BEHIND+THE+SCENES%29 website (which looks odd in itself):

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and this from YouTube (the two link to each other):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNfY1OE6Geg
 
That's the third or fourth daytime fireball over the US this year.

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/244096-It-s-raining-fireballs-April-2-Texas-daytime-fireball-confirmed-another-Meteor-seen-in-Chicago-Wednesday

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/244543-Second-Rare-Daytime-Fireball-Explodes-Over-US-This-Month-Van-sized-Meteor-NOT-part-of-Lyrid-Shower

There was also this:

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/245271-Daylight-fireball-filmed-from-Boise-Idaho-in-February
 
High Strangeness/metors near Colorado fire

Article link and text below.

I have never heard of planes being grounded for "meteors" before. However, the fire fighting pilots don't actually know what they saw, but something that scared them enough to not fly for a while even in the face of an emergency...

I'm not sure what to make of this, but thought it should be captured here.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/21/high-park-fire-meteor-rep_n_1614949.html?utm_hp_ref=tw


High Park Fire: Meteor Reports Ground Colo. Firefighting Planes
By DAN ELLOTT, Associated Press

BELLVUE, Colo. -- Authorities grounded firefighting aircraft battling an out-of-control blaze scorching central Colorado on Wednesday, reacting with caution to witness reports of meteor sightings.

The temporary move came amid several reported sky sightings near the fire burning 1,100 acres, or nearly 2 square miles, west of Colorado Springs.

Chaffee County Sheriff W. Peter Palmer said his office received multiple reports, including one person who thought a meteorite might have landed in a wooded area north of Buena Vista. Palmer said officials could not confirm that report.

Meanwhile, the crew of a heavy air tanker spotted something while making a slurry run on the blaze, said Steve Segin, a spokesman for the U.S. Forest Service.

"They weren't sure what it was," Segin said, confirming the report of a possible meteor shower.

"They landed as they normally do to reload, and for safety reasons they grounded themselves until they could figure out what it was they saw," he said.


The Colorado sightings corresponded with reports of a possible meteor filed by the crews of two commercial aircraft over Liberal, Kan., said meteorologist Scott Entrekin of the National Weather Service in Boulder.

Other sky sightings were reported in Raton, N.M., Entrekin said.

Ian Gregor, a spokesman with the Federal Aviation Administration, said he had no such reports. He also said there were no reported disruptions to commercial airline traffic.

Fire officials ordered four single-engine aircraft to stay on the ground as a precaution. Two heavy air tankers were also affected. The planes soon resumed their attack on the fire, Entrekin said.

The groundings came as firefighters were taking advantage of a break in the heat to ramp up their attack against wildfire burning on more than 100 square miles in the northern part of the state.

"Mother Nature has allowed us this window, and we have responded very aggressively," said Brett Haberstick, a spokesman for fire managers.

After three straight days of gusty winds and temperatures in the 90s, temperatures Wednesday were about 20 degrees cooler.

"We've been patient through those red flag conditions. Today we're going to be aggressive," said Bill Hahnenberg, who is leading the fight against the 65,738-acre fire west of Fort Collins.

Conditions were also better in central Colorado near Lake George, where the blaze is more than 20 percent contained, despite the meteor warning.

A fire that broke out Tuesday in northwestern Colorado spread to about 3 square miles, or 2,000 acres, forcing some evacuations in a subdivision, but residents were able to return that night. Moffat County Sheriff Tim Jantz said the fire is believed to have started from a cigarette thrown from a vehicle.

The largest Colorado blaze west of Fort Collins was 55 percent contained and has destroyed at least 189 homes since it was sparked by lightning June 9. Hahnenberg said it could be weeks or even months before it's finally controlled.

In Arizona, dense smoke from a wildfire near Payson prompted a health watch in the Phoenix area. Residents were asked to avoid using gas-powered lawn mowers and to limit driving or carpool.

Meanwhile, a 385-acre fire near Sequoia National Park in California was 70 percent contained, Kern County fire officials said Wednesday.

Two hundred firefighters are battling the blaze on the northwest side of Lake Isabella and 200 more are on their way, said Forest Service spokeswoman Cindy Thill.

About 160 structures, including homes and cabins near the park, were evacuated, but area residents were allowed back in their homes at 6 p.m. Wednesday.

No structures have burned and no injuries have been reported, Thill said.

Residents in San Diego County, meanwhile, have been allowed to home near a 995-acre fire. Full containment was expected Wednesday night or Thursday morning.

Elsewhere:

_ In Wyoming, nearly 300 firefighters are battling a wildfire burning in remote and mountainous area of the Medicine Bow National Forest that has burned about 4 square miles since Sunday. An 800-acre wildfire that began Tuesday in Wyoming and crossed over into Colorado is 90 percent contained.

_ In New Mexico, a fire that has destroyed 242 homes and businesses in southern New Mexico was 60 percent contained. A fire in the Gila Wilderness, the largest in state history, is at 463 square miles and is 80 percent contained.

_ In Arizona, the wildfire causing haze in Phoenix made a rapid run to the east, spreading under twin transmission lines that send power to the state's major metropolitan areas. Firefighters were reinforcing containment lines to the north Wednesday to keep the blaze from reaching two small communities about three miles away. It's 8,100 acres, up from 3,700 on Tuesday.

_ In Nevada, an 18-square-mile wildfire north of Ely was 37 percent contained.

_ In Hawaii, the largest wildfire of the season has scorched at least 5,200 acres on the Big Island. Two separate fires have been burning there since Monday. One came dangerously close to a hospital and forced the closure of its emergency room. A 6-acre fire in Maui that damaged three homes was contained late Tuesday.
 
1984 said:
FWIW, Odyssey, I was wondering the same thing. As well, it seems odd that no one has posted/reported pictures or videos of the recent meteor sighting (if that's what it was).

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/246987-Possible-Meteor-Streaks-Across-Summit-County-Sky-Wednesday

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/246986-Fireball-Possible-Meteor-Grounds-Tankers-Fighting-Springer-Fire

FWIW - Today a woman I know was talking about having seen the fireball yesterday over Summit County. She said it was bluish green, and very rounded at the tip like a missile. She was driving at the time. Another friend said he was golfing and there was a helicopter flying around the area , because there were some reports of it falling near by, and possible smoke.
 
Hi fairdinkum, I moved your post to this thread that was already discussing the fires. It is very odd to me that they'd ground firefighting planes due to a meteorite sighting - what sort of sighting was it? It sounds like there were multiple sightings?
 
This is my first post and I said hello in newbies section. I signed up today just to put my thoughts on this subject. Last year around this time up until October me, my husband, and a few friends saw at least six daytime fireballs in the sky. We live in Texas and had a front row view to some of the fires popping up everywhere. We saw so many flaming things in the sky last summer that my hubby bought me a new camera to take better long distance photos! Most folks I told my theory to just repeated the reasons the news told us, so i just dropped it until I saw this discussion. I think there is a connection to the fire in the sky and the out of control fires on the ground.
 
Kniall said:
That's the third or fourth daytime fireball over the US this year.

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/244096-It-s-raining-fireballs-April-2-Texas-daytime-fireball-confirmed-another-Meteor-seen-in-Chicago-Wednesday

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/244543-Second-Rare-Daytime-Fireball-Explodes-Over-US-This-Month-Van-sized-Meteor-NOT-part-of-Lyrid-Shower

There was also this:

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/245271-Daylight-fireball-filmed-from-Boise-Idaho-in-February

Yep. Pretty sure that's the fourth one in the US this year (Idaho, Texas, California). If you add in the New Zealand one, that's 5 so far. In my search through the sott archives, it looks like 2009, 2010, and 2011 all had 3 daytime sightings worldwide per year! 2012 is already past that.... From this article: "Only two daylight fireballs are sighted per year on average. Coincidently or otherwise, on the same day as the San Antonio fireball, the average was tied by a daytime fireball observed over New Zealand."

Plus, there's this data from amsmeteors.org. Here are their yearly totals of fireball reports in the US: 466 (2005), 515 (2006), 537 (2007), 726 (2008), 693 (2009), 948 (2010), 1629 (2011), 868 (to June 22, 2012; by this time in 2011, there were just 609 reports). So 2011 was huge, and 2012 is looking even bigger.
 
Approaching Infinity said:
Plus, there's this data from amsmeteors.org. Here are their yearly totals of fireball reports in the US: 466 (2005), 515 (2006), 537 (2007), 726 (2008), 693 (2009), 948 (2010), 1629 (2011), 868 (to June 22, 2012; by this time in 2011, there were just 609 reports). So 2011 was huge, and 2012 is looking even bigger.
Thank you for bringing up these numbers, AI. Those are really staggering IMO. I already had figured out these sightings were on the rise lately, but I had no idea we could reach a fourfold number this year of what was reported in 2005 - only seven years back. Puts the whole issue into proper perspective I would say. Thanks again for sharing.
 
One wonders, of course, what the effects of this increasing flux of fireballs has on the consciousness of sleeping humanity? If we keep the electric universe theory in mind, there might be effects in the electricity of the brain.
 
Two new forest fires in Colorado today. One at Pyramid Mountain, west of Colorado Springs, the other outside of Estes Park. Both are within approx 100 miles of the sighting of a daytime fireball and the grounding of fire fighting planes three days ago and reported here: http://www.sott.net/articles/show/246986-Third-daytime-fireball-seen-in-US-this-year-Meteor-grounds-air-tankers-fighting-Colorado-forest-fire. The forest is incredibly dry and this is the weekend (more people out in the woods), so human causes are not unlikely. However, two fires on the same day does suggest a potential common cause. Meteor fragments come to mind...
 
Now FOUR new forest fires in Colorado all starting today or yesterday, 2-3 days following the daytime fireball sighted in the central mountains of the state. For the record:

http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_20924636/estes-park-fire-burns-structure-spreads-into-grass

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_20924664/fire-breaks-out-near-garden-gods-west-colorado

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_20924523/weber-wildfire-western-slope-expands-downhill-overnight

http://www.9news.com/news/local/article/273945/346/New-Treasure-Fire-burning-in-Leadville

This thread was started in regard to the largest (so far) fire, dubbed the High Park Fire that began two weeks ago. While that fire does have a plausible explanation that does not involve meteors (lightning in area in days prior, photos of the alleged source of the fire, etc.), these four fires all starting within days of a major meteor breakup over the area suggest these may indeed be meteor induced. Note that it is common for a forest fire to smolder in a small area for a few days until the wind kicks up and conditions are right, as they are today.
 
All the fires pooping up even in Russia relatively simultaneously, definitely make me go hmmm, the cordoning of areas to the media is definitely strange, then I read this:

_http://www.worldnewstribune.com/2012/06/22/tips-from-al-qaida-how-to-start-forest-fires-in-the-west/ said:
LONDON — Al Qaida has urged Muslims to torch forests as part of the Islamic war against the West. Al Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula has called on followers to set fires in forests in enemy states as part of what the network termed holy war.

AQAP, deemed the greatest threat to the United States, has also provided instructions on how to easily and rapidly destroy forests.

“Imagine that, after all the damage is caused, if a jihad organization were to take responsibility for the forest fires,” Al Qaida said. “You can imagine the dread it would cause people in the United States, Europe, Russia, and Australia.”

In the latest issue of Inspire magazine, AQAP explained how Muslims can assemble firebombs and other weapons to torch forests. The Al Qaida magazine argued that forest fires are supported by the Koran as legitimate means of Islamic warfare.

AQAP’s main target has been the United States. In 2003, the FBI reported the arrest of a suspected Al Qaida operative accused of planning a series of forest fires. In January, Al Qaida claimed responsibility for a forest fire in the U.S. state of Nevada.

Israel has suspected that a series of forest fires in 2012 might be linked to Al Qaida supporters. An Al Qaida-aligned cell called Masadat Al
Mujahadeen in Palestine, said commanded by Abu Amar Al Ansari, took responsibility for recent arsons in the Jewish state.

And the summer of fire has gotten more interesting.

I had almost forgotten about Al CIA duh's magazine Inspire. :lol: Looks like they are useful in many ways. :rolleyes:
 
l Qaida has urged Muslims to torch forests as part of the Islamic war against the West. Al Qaida in the Arabian Peninsula has called on followers to set fires in forests in enemy states as part of what the network termed holy war.

Oh for Gawd's sake!! Those ter'rists are responsible for absolutely everything! I'll bet they're responsible for bumble bee deaths too.
 

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