Dismissing a 4D STS

[Anatta1111]

Over the years I've been frequently (but not too frequently) visited by what I can only assume is a 4DSTS; I wake up in the pre dawn hours feeling the familiar body tingles (which sometimes signify good things) and I hear a snarling or hissing sound above the top of my head. I'm paralyzed, and I use to be quite afraid.

At some point instead of fear I've switched to trying to send love to the other being; but I realized I was trying to use love "care bears style" as a weapon to banish the unwanted force. I've also tried acknoledging the god in me and them and sending love that way. Suffice to say my techniques don't always work.

What do you do when encountering 4D STS's?

How do you decide if intuitions you receive are from a STO or STS source?

Namaste!
Anatta

 

[truth seeker]

Hi Anatta,

How do you decide if intuitions you receive are from a STO or STS source?

In your post, you identified what's visiting you as STS. Why do you think this?

What do you do when encountering 4D STS's?

What I have found that works for me is doing EE. This raises the level of our frequency so that we become less appetizing for us to feed on. This is not to say that they will completely go away, but rather that they will need to change their methods of how they attempt to interact with us. What also helps greatly is diet. When we are at out optimum level of health, STS cannot use disease as a method of attack.

Finally, what has also helped is the increase in knowledge which you are currently doing. When you begin to understand the methods STS uses in their attempts to control our choices, you have the ability to ward them off before they happen. Hope this helps. :)

 

[Zaphod]

Over the years I've been frequently (but not too frequently) visited by what I can only assume is a 4DSTS; I wake up in the pre dawn hours feeling the familiar body tingles (which sometimes signify good things) and I hear a snarling or hissing sound above the top of my head. I'm paralyzed, and I use to be quite afraid.

At some point instead of fear I've switched to trying to send love to the other being; but I realized I was trying to use love "care bears style" as a weapon to banish the unwanted force. I've also tried acknowledging the god in me and them and sending love that way. Suffice to say my techniques don't always work.

What do you do when encountering 4D STS's?

How do you decide if intuitions you receive are from a STO or STS source?

Namaste!
Anatta

Hi Anatta

I only offer this as a possible alternative explanation for your experience. It sounds very similar to experiences I've had where I only half wake up, and the 'audio' aspect of whatever it was I was dreaming about, appears to continue until I physically or psychologically yank myself awake. Typically, people have a more active dream-state in the hours before dawn; quite why this should be I don't really know, but I've had many apparently bizarre experiences waking up around this time. I put it down to the transition from dreaming to waking being a bit less clear cut sometimes.. a bit raggedy around the edges .. I assume since I experience this fairly regularly, then probably most other people do as well

Also, the effect of paralysis during dreamstate, is a biological function of the human body (if a somewhat less than perfect one), assumedly to prevent you from physically acting out your dreams and therefor putting the body in harms way. So half waking up and finding yourself paralysed is probably not that uncommon.. well, again, since I experience it fairly regularly, the chances are so do most other people

It is a fairly mundane explanation I know, and may in fact be totally incorrect in your case, but what you're describing does sound remarkably familiar

 

[Anatta1111]

Re STS: A long time ago I was pretty sure due to the fear and haunting effects. Both my wife and I experienced it for a few years (before I started meditating); whatever it was would literally poke me in my sleep until I rolled onto my back, then depending on the situation I would either see things I feared, or see my room with black blobs on the ceiling.

Usually during the experience I'd be half in and half out of my body (body paralyzed but I can move something like an astral body) with full body tingles and the sound of a hissing animal at my head. Eventually I was able to overcome the fear response, and stay in my center, and finally able to send love and acceptance. This seemed to work but it still happens from time to time.

I'm even wondering if it just happens from time to time for everyone and for some reason I'm more aware of it.

I'm mostly wondering what the group's view is on resistance; lately I've been thinking that even sending love (as a weapon) could have a negative intent and therefor help the entity; perhaps no reaction but continued meditation (breathing / mantra) and recognition that it's just another manifestation of the light of god.

 

[Anatta1111]

I'm well aware of the sleep paralysis theory :)
I even got checked out by a neurologist; but in this case I have other objective observers experiencing the same phenomena. We (my wife and I) both had it happening long before we told each other .

It's actually gotten much better that last few years, I just had some specific questions about intent, types of energy, and methods of dismissing them.

Over the years I've been frequently (but not too frequently) visited by what I can only assume is a 4DSTS; I wake up in the pre dawn hours feeling the familiar body tingles (which sometimes signify good things) and I hear a snarling or hissing sound above the top of my head. I'm paralyzed, and I use to be quite afraid.

At some point instead of fear I've switched to trying to send love to the other being; but I realized I was trying to use love "care bears style" as a weapon to banish the unwanted force. I've also tried acknowledging the god in me and them and sending love that way. Suffice to say my techniques don't always work.

What do you do when encountering 4D STS's?

How do you decide if intuitions you receive are from a STO or STS source?

Namaste!
Anatta

Hi Anatta

I only offer this as a possible alternative explanation for your experience. It sounds very similar to experiences I've had where I only half wake up, and the 'audio' aspect of whatever it was I was dreaming about, appears to continue until I physically or psychologically yank myself awake. Typically, people have a more active dream-state in the hours before dawn; quite why this should be I don't really know, but I've had many apparently bizarre experiences waking up around this time. I put it down to the transition from dreaming to waking being a bit less clear cut sometimes.. a bit raggedy around the edges .. I assume since I experience this fairly regularly, then probably most other people do as well

Also, the effect of paralysis during dreamstate, is a biological function of the human body (if a somewhat less than perfect one), assumedly to prevent you from physically acting out your dreams and therefor putting the body in harms way. So half waking up and finding yourself paralysed is probably not that uncommon.. well, again, since I experience it fairly regularly, the chances are so do most other people

It is a fairly mundane explanation I know, and may in fact be totally incorrect in your case, but what you're describing does sound remarkably familiar

 

[Thomas Alan]

I'm well aware of the sleep paralysis theory :)
I even got checked out by a neurologist; but in this case I have other objective observers experiencing the same phenomena. We (my wife and I) both had it happening long before we told each other . [/quote}

It's actually gotten much better that last few years, I just had some specific questions about intent, types of energy, and methods of dismissing them.

Hi, Anatta: Intent might be key here. Instead of sending the entity love, exercise will. Tell it that it is violating your freedom, that you want it to go away and not bother you further. Be firm, not angry. Tell it both inwardly and aloud. "Intend" that you be free of this intrusion.

This may change both the flow and the quality of the energy happening with this

FWIW

Mac

 

[Laura]

I've covered this sort of thing pretty thoroughly in both The Wave and High Strangeness. You can read The Wave online for free, but you'll have to purchase High Strangeness. It was so controversial, I took it off the web.

 

[truth seeker]

Re STS: A long time ago I was pretty sure due to the fear and haunting effects. Both my wife and I experienced it for a few years (before I started meditating); whatever it was would literally poke me in my sleep until I rolled onto my back, then depending on the situation I would either see things I feared, or see my room with black blobs on the ceiling.

Usually during the experience I'd be half in and half out of my body (body paralyzed but I can move something like an astral body) with full body tingles and the sound of a hissing animal at my head. Eventually I was able to overcome the fear response, and stay in my center, and finally able to send love and acceptance. This seemed to work but it still happens from time to time.

The answer to your first question is in the above paragraphs. The fact that you mention the fear you felt in addition to "it" not respecting your free will is a strong indicator that what you are dealing with is STS.

 

[Mrs. Peel]

Usually during the experience I'd be half in and half out of my body (body paralyzed but I can move something like an astral body) with full body tingles and the sound of a hissing animal at my head. Eventually I was able to overcome the fear response, and stay in my center, and finally able to send love and acceptance. This seemed to work but it still happens from time to time.

Well, do you realize that by sending "love and acceptance" you've basically given "them" permission to do whatever they want with you??

The thing to do is resist. You've been given some good suggestions by other members here. Sending 'love and light" is part of the New Age COINTELPRO agenda to keep us helpless and hand over our power unwittingly.

 

[Renaissance]

there's some relevant threads on the forum if you do a search for sleep paralysis. It's generally beneficial to do searches on related terms prior to making a thread as often times there's a lot of info that's been helpful to others that's already on the forum. Doing a search is also considerate to the group.

Here's two you might find to be helpful:
"presence" & terror

Paralyzed in Dream

It's also interesting that in your introduction you mentioned your tenancy to dissociate and 'slip into another identity'. I had these same experiences of sleep paralysis when I was experimenting with astral traveling and lucid dreaming. They greatly reduced and eventually went away after I stopped trying to have these experiences. I wouldn't doubt that this tendency could be directly connected to the disassociation you mentioned. It could also be that your wife experiences these episodes because you are 'open' to them via you disassociation. I would also suggest you read Laura's recommended material.

 

[antilou]

oh, wow! I'm glad I found this thread. I was experiencing something very similar to this a few days ago and was completely freaking out trying to figure out what it was. thinking about it now it sort of seems obvious, sleep paralysis makes a lot of sense. i think i'm going to experiment with it a bit. it'd be kind of cool to see if it can have some meditative benifit.

 

[dannybananny]

The thing to do is resist. You've been given some good suggestions by other members here. Sending 'love and light" is part of the New Age COINTELPRO agenda to keep us helpless and hand over our power unwittingly.

Slaves loving their slavery. :)

h, wow! I'm glad I found this thread. I was experiencing something very similar to this a few days ago and was completely freaking out trying to figure out what it was. thinking about it now it sort of seems obvious, sleep paralysis makes a lot of sense. i think i'm going to experiment with it a bit. it'd be kind of cool to see if it can have some meditative benifit.

I'am not sure I understood you but do you want to say you want to experiment with lucid dreams, if it so it doesn't have any spiritual benefits, only it's fun, you can create what you want by your thoughts but I wouldn't recommend it because of paralysis and there are beings that are stalking around, and better to stick with what you are familiar with, you're born to live in 3D not to live in astral level.

 

[Buddy]

I'm mostly wondering what the group's view is on resistance; lately I've been thinking that even sending love (as a weapon) could have a negative intent and therefor help the entity; perhaps no reaction but continued meditation (breathing / mantra) and recognition that it's just another manifestation of the light of god.

Hi Anatta1111. As Laura indicated, this stuff (and so much more) has been covered in the Wave and will really expand your understanding of what's going on so that you can see more possibilities or options.

You don't really want to send 'love' to 4D, or even 3D STS. They'll probably either 'throw up' or it will simply magnify the STS energy. One thing you might consider though:

Whenever you feel fear like what you've described, overload the fear response by simply gathering data. Try and take the attitude or mindset of a scientific curiosity towards what's going on around you. Pay concentrated attention to what the five senses are picking up (Look, listen, feel/touch, taste, smell) with the intention of being able to describe all the sensations to the network. The more stuff you can pay attention to and really notice about what's going on outside you and inside you at a given time, the better, because all this data will get filed away with this experience, reducing and mitigating the fear response and giving you a more useful memory for pattern recognition and comparison purposes later.

On the subject of 'resistance', I would probably try and keep it simple by just feeling a determination not to just give away my energy without a fight. I would also be holding a question in mind like "What is your intent?" or something like that. :)

 

[thevenusian]

Just want to add that toxins in the body can contribute toward a predisposition or openness to negative energies seeking avenues of influence. Detoxing the body and paying close attention to the right diet for you can help make you more naturally resistant. This may not be applicable in your situation, but it is something to consider.