Dissenter is the most awesome thing on the Web right now...

Woodsman

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What is Dissenter?

It's a little extension for your browser which links back to gab.com's server farm, which will create and host a unique, un-censored comment section for any submitted web address.

This in essence creates a shadow comment section for every webpage on the internet!

It's simple. It's brilliant. It's so obvious, one wonders why it took so long.

-A journal article on some taboo, highly controlled subject shuts down the comment section because the publishers don't like the opinions expressed by its readers? You may now Dissent!

I find that comment sections are often where I discover the most useful insights anyway, very often more informative and honest than the articles themselves. Though articles, even bad ones, are extremely valuable; the article provides a back story, does the hard work of pushing entropy away from the blank page, ignites the spark of a thought and thus allows people's connection machines to light up! A gem of a comment can then be provided without its author having to do all the establishing groundwork. Gremlins on the shoulders of giants can be smarter than the giant. It can be a productive co-dependence.

But often comment sections are unavailable, either by design or due to technical barriers. A service like Dissenter provides a ready solution.

Interestingly, it's run by Gab, which is apparently, (accused throughout the media anyway) a home for politically Right thinking people.

It also allows for long-form posting rather than limited Tweets. -This encourages, one would hope, long-form thinking rather than just enough characters for emotional button punches. It might be a place for actual reasonable discussion to take place as uncensored long-form thought tends to favor people who can think and express clearly.

Anyway.., I would encourage people to take a look at this very new tool. -I just checked and there is one single post on the Dissenter window on the SOTT main page right now. I would encourage Laura or someone of similar status to perhaps put something welcoming there, since under the current coding paradigm it will be there forever.

I was tempted, but will refrain from doing so. :)

Now, I don't anticipate the comment sections of SOTT being shut down any time soon due to fits of hysterical control freakishness on the part of the webmasters, thus requiring Dissent, but it's cool to have the proof of concept right there, for all to see.

Go to the Dissenter download page:
 
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Well, that didn't take long.


In short: the big gatekeepers all flipped out and decried the extension as an Alt-Right, (etc.) tool and universally moved to squash it. The money paid to Mozilla and Google and others (in excess of $100,000 for Mozilla alone) required to license space on their browsers has not been refunded. There is talk that the move was pressured by one of the big credit card companies.

That a simple browser extension should cause so much upset indicates much, I think!

Mozilla's recent update (within the last 48 hours) effectively killed the extension, and I wonder if the update was specifically released in order to do this? Anyway, Dissenter can still be manually loaded from the Gab website (with simple instructions provided) here:

_Dissenter | Comment On Any URL Online
 
Well, the popular Firefox browser crashed out across the board earlier today, rendering all add-ons broken.

It has been suggested that the developers were doing some deep re-coding in order to reconfigure the way their browser handled add-ons specifically so that undesirable add-ons, ones without their permission, could not be used on their platform. -It has been further suggested that this hurried attempt to lock down their browser was exactly because of the threat they feel Dissenter represented.

Oh my!

In any case, Dissenter and the option it provided for un-sanctioned free speech appears to have been snuffed out. For now. We'll see what happens when they get things fixed and add-ons start working again. But I suspect this is the end of Dissenter in Firefox.
 
Well, the popular Firefox browser crashed out across the board earlier today, rendering all add-ons broken.

It has been suggested that the developers were doing some deep re-coding in order to reconfigure the way their browser handled add-ons specifically so that undesirable add-ons, ones without their permission, could not be used on their platform. -It has been further suggested that this hurried attempt to lock down their browser was exactly because of the threat they feel Dissenter represented.

Oh my!

In any case, Dissenter and the option it provided for un-sanctioned free speech appears to have been snuffed out. For now. We'll see what happens when they get things fixed and add-ons start working again. But I suspect this is the end of Dissenter in Firefox.

There's a much simplier explanation: someone at Mozilla forgot to update extension signing certificate and it expired. I was able to switch off certificate check via xpinstall.signatures.required option, and all my addons started to work again. Though this trick won't work in official Firefox builds (I'm using build from Debian repository).
 
There's a much simplier explanation: someone at Mozilla forgot to update extension signing certificate and it expired. I was able to switch off certificate check via xpinstall.signatures.required option, and all my addons started to work again. Though this trick won't work in official Firefox builds (I'm using build from Debian repository).

Yeah, which is a pretty obvious thing to overlook. I mean, with SSL web certs, you are usually bombarded with e-mails months in advance to remind you to renew. For internal certs, obviously whatever person/mechanism they had in place to renew or remind somebody to renew it didn't work at all. And for an intermediate cert to expire and break add-ons for the entire (shrinking) Firefox userbase, somebody really dropped the ball...

FYI, anybody who wants to fix their add-ons can do this:
  1. Options -> Privacy & Security
  2. Scroll down, and under Firefox Data Collection and Use, check the two boxes:
    1. Allow Firefox to send technical and interaction data to Mozilla
    2. Allow Firefox to install and run studies
  3. Restart Firefox
  4. Wait a few minutes
  5. When your add-ons magically re-appear, you can safely uncheck the 2 boxes in step 2
Done!

Guide with pictures:
 
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Hey, hey! It's working again for me as well. The bumps in the digital highway are smooth once more. Paranoia alert, over; I can furl up my red flag and put the megaphone back on its handy quick draw holder.
 
Don't use Brave. It calls home. A lot.

Dissenter now has their own port of the Brace/Chromium browser, that does NOT call home. At all. I'm using it on Mac.
 
I thought everyone would be using Brave.

Generally speaking, don't use what everyone else is using to "be safe".

Tor is a prime example. Firefox is supposed to be coming out soon with a new Super Private Browsing Mode that uses - you guessed it - Tor!

The problem with Tor is that it was designed by the American spooks and then spread specifically because they needed a broad userbase in which to hide their nefarious deeds.

Popular VPNs aren't much different, I imagine. All it takes is a convenient back door into the VPN's service, and you're not private anymore.
 
Generally speaking, don't use what everyone else is using to "be safe".

Tor is a prime example. Firefox is supposed to be coming out soon with a new Super Private Browsing Mode that uses - you guessed it - Tor!

The problem with Tor is that it was designed by the American spooks and then spread specifically because they needed a broad userbase in which to hide their nefarious deeds.

Popular VPNs aren't much different, I imagine. All it takes is a convenient back door into the VPN's service, and you're not private anymore.
Do you have a recommended VPN, Scottie?
 

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