Do any entities feed on joy?

[webglider]

I was thinking last night after the complete explosion of ecstasy that erupted in my neighborhoodafter the election was called for Obama about the energy of joy.

If STS entities feed on negative emotions, are there entitities that feed on positive ones such as joy and hope?

 

[PepperFritz]

I was thinking last night after the complete explosion of ecstasy that erupted in my neighborhoodafter the election was called for Obama about the energy of joy.

If STS entities feed on negative emotions, are there entitities that feed on positive ones such as joy and hope?

I can find only one direct reference to the concept of "joy" by the Cassiopeans. In response to a question about "laughter" amongst the C's, they replied: Let us just say that there is great joy in these "realms" and that does include "laughter."

Somehow, I don't think the the feelings of "joy" and "ecstasy" expressed in response to the Obama win is of the same energy as the"joy" that the C's are referring to. If feelings of "joy" and "ecstasy" are in response to what is essentially a LIE, in response to a "positive" scenario that does not really exist but people have been manipulated into believing, it's not truly a "positive" emotion, is it? I'd say it was more akin to "hysteria", or the kind of "high" that one experiences from chemical addictions and/or addictive behaviours. I'd venture to say that an "emotional release" that is produced by manipulation -- even one that we would perceive to involve "positive" emotions -- can only be be something that STS forces would enjoy "feeding" on. Anything born of lies and manipulation can only serve an STS agenda, not an STO one.

Imagine that a man has been unjustly imprisoned for ten years. One day his captors tell him that he is going to be granted his freedom, released to live a better existence. As they escort him to his gate of freedom, he experiences indescribable joy and ecstasy at the prospect of what is to come. But when they open the door, it is revealed that he has in fact only be transferred to a different prison, that the story told to him was only used to ensure his "docility" during the transfer. Now, what kind of "entity" do you think would enjoy "feeding" on that man's ill-founded "joy" and "ecstacy"?

 

[mkrnhr]

IMHO, positiveness and negativeness may be subjective when it comes to emotions. Maybe an example already discussed is the emotional release during a sexual intercourse, it feeds our 4D STS friends <irony> but how can we describe it? Emotions are reactions, not states. They are energetic processes who relieve some psychic stress to the body. Maybe it tastes differently at a certain level and maybe we are accustomed to perceive the emotions induced by negative events as strong (more tasteful to STS forces)? Just a hypothesis.

 

[Nienna]

I think that there is something to what PepperFritz said.

Also, remember that before Obama's win, there was a lot of tension, despair, hysteria, worry.....

Thinking of all of these toxic emotions building up during these last few months, along with the hate that was being brought to fever pitch by Palin, and the release of these emotions, even if in joy or relief, were bound to be tainted by this same toxicity.

Something for the 4d STS to slurp right up.

At least that is the way it is looking to me at this moment.

 

[JonnyRadar]

wow webglider, that same question was bouncing around in my head while driving home, and i logged on and you'd posted it. thanks for bringing it up :)

this seemed to apply:

Q: (T) Okay, and you said that the Lizzies feed on the negative energy?
A: Yes.
Q: (T) Who feeds on the positive energy?
A: You do.
Q: (T) How do we feed on the positive energy?
A: Progression toward union with the one, I.E. level 7.
Q: (L) In other words, you fuel your own generator instead of fueling someone else's. (T) You are at level 6, what do you feed on?
A: You have the wrong concept. We give to others and receive from others of the STO. We feed each other.
Q: (L) So, by feeding each other you move forward and grow but those of the STS path do not feed each other so must feed off of others. (T) Now, you are talking to us now. This is considered STO?
A: Yes.
Q: (T) We are providing energy for the channel also, does that provide you with energy?
A: No.
Q: (F) You are not keeping up with the program, T***. (L) What do you want from us?
A: We don't want when pure STO. We came because YOU wanted. But that is STS until you share with others.

so that seemed to indicate, osit, that if all this jubilation and whatnot after obama's (s)election were STO, that people would be utilizing the energy "surplus" to get things done for others, pursue STO-oriented actions... (?)

although all i've seen so far today is people talking about how things are gonna get better, and it's a "bright day for america." that, to me, seems like a self-fueled delusion to perpetuate the lie that all is well on the western front. as far as who feeds on that, i couldn't say, but i'd venture a guess that the 4D STS controllers are at least getting a kick out of how asleep the public is.

 

[webglider]

A: You have the wrong concept. We give to others and receive from others of the STO. We feed each other.

This makes a lot of sense to me. If STO beings feed each other, where will the STS beings get their food supply?

They sure do spend a lot of their energy trying to make humans hate and kill each other.

It is a fact that an African American man got elected yesterdayby a clear majority of the people. That's a major breakthrough for the United States.

Perhaps the U.S. did reach a point of no return as the C's said, but maybe it's for the better. We all assumed it must be for the worst.

When I compare Obama to McCain there is a difference in the Being of each man. Obama seems a higher energy being.

I know what he said to get elected, but I will wait and see what he does when he is president. They may not be the same thing, as there was a difference between the words pre-election Bush and his deeds after he became elected.

Perhaps it will be the same - in reverse.

Personally, I think that STS forces are afraid of us. They have no power of their own because they can not feed each other. We can. Without us, they starve.

 

[anart]

It is a fact that an African American man got elected yesterdayby a clear majority of the people.  That's a major breakthrough for the United States.

webglider - how do you know that this man wasn't elected via the same vote manipulation that took place in the last two elections?  Do you honestly think that free elections occur in the US?   No offense intended at all, but it sounds like you are dreaming.

Perhaps the U.S. did reach a point of no return as the C's said, but maybe it's for the better.  We all assumed it must be for the worst.

That's probably because they prefaced the point of no return statement with 'the US is headed for destruction'  --  how can destruction be for the better?

When I compare Obama to McCain there is a difference in the Being of each man.  Obama seems a higher energy being.

How much television coverage have you been watching?   A 'higher energy being'??????    Have you been reading the articles on sott about who supports him and his background - on his wife's involvement with CFR?   Have you fallen asleep, webglider?

I know what he said to get elected, but I will wait and see what he does when he is president.  They may not be the same thing, as there was a difference between the words pre-election Bush and his deeds after he became elected. 

Perhaps it will be the same - in reverse. 

And perhaps angels will descend on high and save us all. 

Personally, I think that STS forces are afraid of us.  They have no power of their own because they can not feed each other.  We can.  Without us, they starve.

Uhhhhmmmm ---- WE ARE STS!!!!!!!!!!!!!    Webglider, you really seem to have lost the point here.  4D STS forces are no more afraid of us than we are afraid of cows and chickens.

 

[knowledge_of_self]

Just a quick thought, I really agree with pepper's post. The people who celebrated Obama's win seemed to be in a tranced state of ecstasy because of an illusion. Or at least that's how I see it.

Personally, I think that STS forces are afraid of us. They have no power of their own because they can not feed each other. We can. Without us, they starve.

Uhhhhmmmm ---- WE ARE STS!!!!!!!!!!!!! Webglider, you really seem to have lost the point here. 4D STS forces are no more afraid of us than we are afraid of cows and chickens.

While I agree with you that we are STS and not much of a threat at the state we are now. But a thought did occur to me. STS are not afraid of us because we are beings who are a sleep, but are they not afraid of people with the desire and will to wake up and to wake others up? And that's why they are always trying to put different obstacles in the paths of those who want to be "free from the matrix" sort to speak.

Take SOTT for example. While it is true that we are STS beings, a small group of people have come together to help others who see that there is something more to life than just what is. And because of that, they have been subjected to attack from all angles. Isn't the reason for those attacks because 4D STS are afraid that SOTT's work may help more and more people awake and no longer be food for them?

Just a thought.

 

[anart]

While I agree with you that we are STS and not much of a threat at the state we are now. But a thought did occur to me. STS are not afraid of us because we are beings who are a sleep, but are they not afraid of people with the desire and will to wake up and to wake others up? And that's why they are always trying to put different obstacles in the paths of those who want to be "free from the matrix" sort to speak.

Much like fences around cows - does that mean the farmer is afraid of the cow?

Take SOTT for example. While it is true that we are STS beings, a small group of people have come together to help others who see that there is something more to life than just what is. And because of that, they have been subjected to attack from all angles. Isn't the reason for those attacks because 4D STS are afraid that SOTT's work may help more and more people awake and no longer be food for them?

Just a thought.

Perhaps that would be best answered by a consideration of the 'matter of degree'.  Does reading sott mean that someone is awake?  What is awake - and what does it take to no longer be food?  Does the extreme level of wishful thinking that defines 4D STS even allow for fear of their prey?  

Just because certain measures are put into place by necessity (thus the General Law) does not mean that 'being afraid' factors into the equation.

Does perceiving such things from the level of 3D STS, in which one still thinks their perception is reality, really even give a vague glimpse of what is really going on?  Just some considerations.

 

[knowledge_of_self]

Much like fences around cows - does that mean the farmer is afraid of the cow?

He may not be afraid of the cows, but he put the fence up for a reason right? Because he's afraid the cow will get out, the other cows might start following him, and he may not have any cows left over night. But I see what you're getting at :P

Perhaps that would be best answered by a consideration of the 'matter of degree'. Does reading sott mean that someone is awake? What is awake - and what does it take to no longer be food? Does the extreme level of wishful thinking that defines 4D STS even allow for fear of their prey?

All questions that I ask myself every day. No, reading SOTT certainly does not mean one is awake. But maybe it means they are heading toward that direction? Especially if they are DO-ing the Work and self observing themselves all the time, asking questions and researching, etc...

And maybe 4D STS are not capable of feeling fear towards 3D STS beings like us, but what about the “butterfly affect”? Are they not at least a tiny bit concerned what that might to do their crop?

Just because certain measures are put into place by necessity (thus the General Law) does not mean that 'being afraid' factors into the equation.

Does perceiving such things from the level of 3D STS, in which one still thinks their perception is reality, really even give a vague glimpse of what is really going on? Just some considerations.

Thanks for your response, certainly food for thought. :)

 

[Adaryn]

All questions that I ask myself every day. No, reading SOTT certainly does not mean one is awake. But maybe it means they are heading toward that direction? Especially if they are DO-ing the Work and self observing themselves all the time, asking questions and researching, etc...

How many people really do that, honestly, constantly, all the time?

I don't think the STS are afraid of us, but I do think they're desperate because the wheel's turning, it's just the natural cycle ; they know they have not much time left so they try to secure the barriers as much as they can to prevent the food from getting away. As the C's said, this transition will be "a bad day if you're Rockefeller, and a good day if you're M. Gandhi".

 

[Oxajil]

And maybe 4D STS are not capable of feeling fear towards 3D STS beings like us, but what about the “butterfly affect”? Are they not at least a tiny bit concerned what that might to do their crop?

If we look at this transcript:

Q: (L) Well, since there is so many of us here, why don't they just
move in and take over?

A: That is their intention. That has been their intention for quite some
time. They have been traveling back and forth through time as you
know it, to set things up so that they can absorb a maximum amount
of negative energy with the transference from third level to fourth
level that this planet is going to experience, in the hopes that they
can overtake you on the fourth level and thereby accomplish several
things. 1: retaining their race as a viable species; 2: increasing their
numbers; 3: increasing their power; 4: expanding their race
throughout the realm of fourth density. To do all of this they have
been interfering with events for what you would measure on your
calendar as approximately 74 thousand years. And they have been
doing so in a completely still state of space time traveling backward
and forward at will during this work. Interestingly enough, though, all
of this will fail.

Q: (L) How can you be so sure it will fail?

A: Because we see it. We are able to see all, not just what we want
to see. Their failing is that they see only what they want to see. In
other words, it's the highest manifestation possible of that which you
would refer to as wishful thinking. And, wishful thinking represented
on the fourth level of density becomes reality for that level. You
know how you wishfully think? Well, it isn't quite reality for you
because you are on the third level, but if you are on the fourth level
and you were to perform the same function, it would indeed be your
awareness of reality. Therefore they cannot see what we can see
since we serve others as opposed to self, and since we are on sixth
level, we can see all that is at all points as is, not as we would want
it to be.

So if 4d STS 'knows' that they will succeed, because this wishful thinking becomes reality in 4D;
would they be afraid or concerned of the possibility of 'losing'/not succeeding?

 

[RedFox]

I was thinking last night after the complete explosion of ecstasy that erupted in my neighborhoodafter the election was called for Obama about the energy of joy.

If STS entities feed on negative emotions, are there entities that feed on positive ones such as joy and hope?

To quote what I perceived on the day of the election....
http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=10637.msg75896#msg75896

I heard the news at 4am in the UK (I was having trouble sleeping). It was very very strange. I could feel the 'hope' in the air, it was almost palpable.
For a moment I got sucked in. Could there actually be change? (It was 4am!)

To then realise the amount of emotional energy being placed onto obama, and that this was carrying me (and everyone else) along with it was chilling. Whats worse is I don't think its just america that was feeling this 'hope'.

The best analogy I could come up with for what I was picking up was a starving man finally (thinking he was) getting a meal. Except he'd just been given a coke (sugar,cafean) and was simply just buzzing off of it. Theres nothing of substance behind it. The starving man needs to learn to feed himself.

Talk about mass projection! Unholy Hungers is ringing in my ears. All that energy being sent out. I can't help but wonder if the lizzies just had a feast???
If people wake up with 'hangovers'/fuzzy heads then you know it was a mass draining, and what a scale. Reminiscent of 9/11 in size.

Just my perception mind, I'm not even sure how accurate I can be at observing myself at 4am...
Did anyone notice anything similar???

It was that sense of it being like 'sugar'...i.e. fake that made me realise that it was indeed feeding. At which point I stopped myself participating as much as I could and just observed (with mounting horror) How Much energy was going towards the man (and presumably by default 4th density STS entities?).....it was horrific....
To be honest I couldn't stop going with the flow much but I could step back and try and observe what was happening....

Having watched V last night, his speech at the beginning about why people capitulated....it was fear...and the theme that he and Evey where without fear....
To me the 'hope' was a mix of stress relief and in post analysis fear based....it was not dealt with by the individual, it was given away to 'obama'
This thread on depression and the first victory... http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=2832.0 it seems to me that Everyone who was not aware of what they where doing has given away the energy they could use for this?
It was not Hope, it was a lie labeled 'hope'......calling it hysteria or comparing it to sexual release seems pretty apt to me.....I am waiting for the high to ware off and people to become hung over.....the first story in Unholy Hungers about the women and the charismatic man (the women wakes up in a fog the next day).....That is what happened that day....only on a global scale

I still doubt my senses, perhaps because I don't want to be wishfully thinking....or perhaps it would be easier that way, not to be able to pick up on what may have happened....but the more I think about it the more sickening and horrific it is

 

[webglider]

It is a fact that an African American man got elected yesterdayby a clear majority of the people. That's a major breakthrough for the United States.

webglider - how do you know that this man wasn't elected via the same vote manipulation that took place in the last two elections? Do you honestly think that free elections occur in the US? No offense intended at all, but it sounds like you are dreaming.

Perhaps the U.S. did reach a point of no return as the C's said, but maybe it's for the better. We all assumed it must be for the worst.

That's probably because they prefaced the point of no return statement with 'the US is headed for destruction' -- how can destruction be for the better?

When I compare Obama to McCain there is a difference in the Being of each man. Obama seems a higher energy being.

How much television coverage have you been watching? A 'higher energy being'?????? Have you been reading the articles on sott about who supports him and his background - on his wife's involvement with CFR? Have you fallen asleep, webglider?

I know what he said to get elected, but I will wait and see what he does when he is president. They may not be the same thing, as there was a difference between the words pre-election Bush and his deeds after he became elected.

Perhaps it will be the same - in reverse.

:Exercise Vigilant Shield, Northcom's 5 day marshall law exercise dated for November 12-18, 2008
:An exercise simulating a 10 KT nuclear weapon detonated in America’s heartland.
:Presidential Directive which claims power to execute procedures for continuity of the federal government.
:The eleventh nodal point was October 2008 Bush's ordering the day-to-day control by U.S. Army North who could and will be used to quell U.S. "civil disturbances."

wrote: 'And what better day then on 11/22 (November 22nd) which would make it 45 years after JFK!!! Wow all that numbers!!! '

Yeah, that is interesting. The connecting dots sure seem to paint a very clear picture. And bombs can manifest in many types of forms.

All that positive energy and hope the public now has should it suddenly be taken from them would surely create a scenario with consequnces similar to a nuke going off.

I'm awake now.

[Moderation : quotes fixed]

 

[vinny]

I'm awake now.

this is not a dig, but a suggestion: perhaps it would be more helpful to phrase that as something like "You've got my attention"

We continue to try to wake each other up as best we can, but it is not so simple. And that is an understatement. It is an ongoing process, and easy to fall asleep whilst assuming one is awake.