Does NASA know the facts or are they just putting on a good show?

[goyacobol]

I have noticed that NASA tries to bedazzle us with their "knowledge". I am just not convinced that they have the knowledge they claim.

Here are some of their recent "disclosures":

Published time: 16 Sep, 2017 11:51
Hubble spots pitch-black exoplanet so hot it ‘eats light’ from nearby star

Scientists studying the exoplanet WASP-12b have made a startling discovery: the planet is so hot it reflects almost no light, making it appear pitch-black.
An international team of astronomers from McGill University, Canada and the University of Exeter, UK measured how much light is reflected by the exoplanet, otherwise known as its 'albedo,' in order to better understand the chemical makeup of the planet's atmosphere.

Only the Space Telescope Imaging Spectrograph (STIS) on the NASA/ESA Hubble Space Telescope is powerful enough to carry out such immense measurements.

“The measured albedo of WASP-12b is 0.064 at most. This is an extremely low value, making the planet darker than fresh asphalt,”said Taylor Bell, a Master’s student in astronomy at McGill University.

For context, WASP-12b has an albedo of 0.064, making it half as reflective as our moon (0.12).

“The low albedo shows we still have a lot to learn about WASP-12b and other similar exoplanets,” Bell added.

https://www.rt.com/news/401776-hubble-trappist-exoplanets-water-research/

WASP-12b orbits a star similar to our sun, roughly 1,400 light-years away from Earth. The exoplanet is classified as a 'hot Jupiter' or 'roaster planet,' a type of gas giant that has a very short orbital period of less than 10 days.

This means that the exoplanet is in very close proximity to its star, which not only stretches it out into an egg shape but also raises the surface temperature on WASP-12b’s sunny side to 2,600 degrees Celsius (4,712 Fahrenheit).

“There are other hot Jupiters that have been found to be remarkably black, but they are much cooler than WASP-12b," Bell explains. “For those planets, it is suggested that things like clouds and alkali metals are the reason for the absorption of light, but those don’t work for WASP-12b because it is so incredibly hot.”

The exoplanet is so hot that clouds cannot even form. The atmosphere is rich in hydrogen atoms, which makes the exoplanet have an atmosphere closer to that of a low-mass star. Hydrogen atoms are quite rare in planetary atmospheres due to the element’s highly reactive nature.

Scientists measured the exoplanet's albedo during an eclipse in October 2016 when it passed behind its star.

“After we measured the albedo we compared it to spectral models of previously suggested atmospheric models of WASP-12b,” Nikolay Nikolov (University of Exeter, UK), co-author of the study, said.

“We found that the data match neither of the two currently proposed models.”

Bad star rising: Sun’s twin ‘Nemesis’ could have caused dinosaur extinction

New research has offered evidence to support the theory that our sun was born with a non-identical twin named “Nemesis” and some astronomers are blaming it for the death of the dinosaurs.
Scientists have long noted, and sought to explain, the phenomenon of stars having companions. Now a new analysis by scientists from Harvard and UC Berkeley suggests that nearly all stars are born with a twin.

Our sun’s twin, which has been dubbed “Nemesis,” would have orbited the same point as our sun before venturing off into the galaxy. The star has never been found, but new research suggests that it must have existed because all stars are born in pairs.

Nemesis picked up its ominous sounding name from a theory that suggests it launched the asteroid that killed off the dinosaurs.

WASP-12b does not reflect light at any wavelength, giving it a red hue similar to molten metal, in sharp contrast to the other 'hot Jupiter' that has been studied by astronomers and astrophysicists in such detail, HD 189733b, which has a deep blue color.

“The fact that the first two exoplanets with measured spectral albedo exhibit significant differences demonstrates the importance of these types of spectral observations and highlights the great diversity among hot Jupiters,” Bell concludes.

Published time: 14 Dec, 2016 05:09
Edited time: 14 Dec, 2016 17:12
‘Not a hell of a lot we can do’: NASA scientist warns Earth vulnerable to ‘sneaky’ asteroid, comet

Earth is essentially defenseless in the face of comets and asteroids that bring little warning, a NASA scientist has warned. The researcher believes building an interceptor rocket and an observer spacecraft could avert such a catastrophe, however.
“The biggest problem, basically, is there’s not a hell of a lot we can do about it at the moment,” Dr. Joseph Nuth, a researcher with NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center, said at the fall meeting of the American Geophysical Union (AGU) in San Francisco on Monday.

FM16 Press Conference: Defending the home planet

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Researchers reached the conclusion after observing newborn stars in a large cloud in the Perseus constellation. Several decades ago researchers established that stars are born inside egg-shaped cocoons called dense cores, which are sprinkled throughout immense clouds of cold, molecular hydrogen that are the nurseries for young stars.

The Perseus molecular cloud is one of these stellar nurseries, it's about 600 light-years from Earth and about 50 light-years long.

“The idea that many stars form with a companion has been suggested before, but the question is: how many?” said Sarah Sadavoy, one of the researchers and a NASA Hubble fellow at the Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory.

“Based on our simple model, we say that nearly all stars form with a companion. The Perseus cloud is generally considered a typical low-mass star-forming region, but our model needs to be checked in other clouds.”

Just to keep the heat up they have this to say:

Published time: 17 Sep, 2017 20:06
‘Inferno world’: Hot Jupiter exoplanet is 4 times hotter than Venus

Hot Jupiter’ exoplanet WASP-19B is more than four times hotter than Venus and contains titanium oxide in its atmosphere, according to new information revealed by the European Southern Observatory’s Very Large Telescope.
Details of the exoplanet’s chemical composition, temperature and pressure structure were published by astronomers in the journal Nature, offering unique insight into this inferno like world.

READ MORE: Newly-discovered extremely hot planet may have comet-like tail – study

WASP-19B has about the same mass as Jupiter, but is so close to its parent star that it completes an orbit in just 19 hours.

Its atmosphere is estimated to have a temperature of a scorching 2,000 degrees Celsius. Venus has a surface temperature of 467 degrees Celsius.

Small amounts of titanium oxide, water and traces of sodium were detected in the planet’s atmosphere by ESO scientists.

ESOcast 126 Light: Titanium oxide in exoplanetary atmosphere (4K UHD)

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Astronomers using ESO’s Very Large Telescope have detected titanium oxide in an exoplanet atmosphere for the first time. This discovery around the hot-Jupiter planet WASP-19b exploited the power of the FORS2 instrument. It provides unique information about the chemical composition and the temperature and pressure structure of the atmosphere of this unusual and very hot world.

The video is available in 4K UHD.

The ESOcast Light is a series of short videos bringing you the wonders of the Universe in bite-sized pieces. The ESOcast Light episodes will not be replacing the standard, longer ESOcasts, but complement them with current astronomy news and images in ESO press releases.

Is this really a "hot" topic or just their way of distracting us from a "brown dwarf" pulling comet clusters our way?

In addition to the asteroid/comet nervousness there has been a Space Defense effort since at least 2013 which could be expanded to include almost any threat from "out there". Here are some examples:

UN versions:
November 3, 2013 3:09 PM ET
Space Agencies Of The World, Unite: The U.N.'s Asteroid Defense Plan

The United Nations Office for Outer Space Affairs (UNOOSA)

Global Effort Planned to Defend Earth from Asteroids

There was a request from Europe for Russia to provide some protection from asteroids:

PUBLISHED: 06:26, Mon, Jan 18, 2016 | UPDATED: 08:16, Mon, Jan 18, 2016
Russia reveals plans to save Earth from deadly asteroids with SPACE NUKES

Also we have new Space defense provided by NASA:

Updated 8:42 PM ET, Sat July 1, 2017
NASA unveils plan to test asteroid defense technique

NASA's New Planetary Defense Office Gets to Work Protecting Earth

Planetary Defense Coordination Office Proposed to Fight Asteroids

In addition to the cosmic cometary influences we might be looking at other influences "out there" that are being "masked" by disinformation.

Session 2 February 2003

Q: (L) Piece of cake to produce a bodyguard, I guess. (A) He is saying exactly what the Israelis want him to say. He is not revealing
any particular data that counts. It is just general things. Anybody could say such things and be called a "bodyguard." (L) Exactly.
Okay, you say that an EM pulse brought down the shuttle. (A) Where did the EM pulse come from?
A: From space based satellite.
Q: (A) Does NASA know about the cause?
A: There are some who suspect.
Q: (L) Which explains why they are so anxious to convince everyone that it was NOT sabotage. Like Wellstone's death, there was "no
question" about it being a terrorist attack. The likelihood is that the Bush Junta was behind Wellstone's death. In both cases they
"know" the cause and want to divert the attention away from it. But, in the case of the shuttle, they aren't "dirty," but they most
definitely do NOT want anyone to realize that they also are not "in charge." It makes me think of the remark the C's made a few
years ago about the reason for the Military Industrial Complex build-up and manipulations. C's said that the REAL enemy is "out
there" and that war was just a "cover" to prevent the masses from realizing what they were really doing. Maybe Bush and the gang
are really convinced, in their own minds, that they are acting to "protect" humanity from this threat. Meanwhile, they are simply being
driven to fulfill the agenda of the Consortium. And it is so interesting that the shuttle broke up over Palestine, Texas... as though it
was saying to Bush: this is what is going to happen to you: Palestine is going to be your destruction. But, of course, Bush would be
incapable of perceiving it in that context. Is it so that a message was intended in this event?
A: As always, confusion is the mask.

And more recently:

Session 21 November 2015
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Q: (Perceval) Those strange circular objects that fell in Spain, they
said they were gas tanks from a satellite. Is that what they were?
A: Yes
Q: (L) Question is: How come they're falling?
(Perceval) Why did two of them fall in the same place in Spain?
A: Put there as message.
Q: (L) Are you saying that aliens in spaceships put them there?
A: Something like that.
Q: (L) And what about the satellites that they were attached to?
A: Gone. Poof. Part of the message.
Q: (L) Huh?
(Perceval) A message to who?
A: Who do you think? The people that put them in space!
Q: (Perceval) I think they're saying they were put there as part of
the message. Directly placed. But the satellites were shot down, and
that was part of the message. They were from American satellites?
A: Yes
Q: (Scottie) Of course, we don't know what kind of satellites they
were. There are many kinds of satellites. Hmm...
A: The kind that were intended as "defense" against what is "out
there".
Q: (Scottie) So they really ARE clueless then!

Keeping in mind that NASA may not have the whole banana, the latest session mentions Mars and the electrical transfer of water to Earth as well as the recent lessening occurrence of solar flares due to the weakening magnetosphere of the sun and the influence of the brown dwarf star/nemisis.

Session 16 September 2017

(Pierre) Let's shift to a more cheerful topic: cometary bombardments. So we discussed the death of the woolly mammoths due to a cometary bombardment. I would like to know about the transfer of water from Mars to planet Earth, when did it occur relative to this cometary bombardment? How many years before, how many years after?

A: Within 40 years more or less.

Q: (Pierre) So cometary bombardment, and then Mars water transfer?

(L) And how did that happen?

A: Electric arc of cosmic proportions.

Q: (Pierre) You mean the water transfer? Yeah, that's the arcing. The plasma connection between Earth and...

(L) Was this the same event that left that gigantic scar on Mars? (I don’t know how anybody can look at that scar and not get the willies!)

A: Yes.

Q: (Joe) How close was Mars? Water can be...

(Pierre) It was closer because...

(Joe) ...transferred through hundreds of millions of miles of space?

A: Mars was much closer temporarily. Tales of gods fighting in the sky and castration of Chronos relate to this event.

Q: (Pierre) So, this massive inflow of water from Mars reaching Earth...

A: Much of it precipitated as snow at poles, and was released into oceans gradually. Water moving through space is not liquid.

Q: (L) That's how it could happen, because it wasn't liquid.

(Joe) What form was it in?

(Pierre) It was gaseous?

(Joe) What form was it in?

(L) Probably ice crystals.

(Pierre) Solid.

A: Yes

Q: (L) What dear?

(Ark) Yeah, ice.

(Pierre) Well, that's answered my question I think. I was about to ask is this water transfer why sea levels raised about 50 meters during the Younger Dryas while the temperatures were dropping?

A: Yes

Q: (Artemis) So sometimes our rain just comes from space.

(L) I don’t know, sometimes. Chunks of ice come from space all the time.

(Artemis) They bring viruses with them! The plague! [laughter]

(L) I mean, they call comets "dirty snowballs". According to them, these dirty snowballs can fly through space and land wherever they want to. And if you think about it, what they just said was coming in at the poles... That would be like when the blasts from the sun...

(Pierre) The Aurora Borealis?

(L) Yeah, that stuff comes in at the poles.

(Pierre) Yeah, the magnetosphere is weaker there. Related question: We've witnessed over the past few days several X-class solar flares. I wanted to know if this unusual solar activity was triggered by an incoming cometary cluster related to Nemesis?

A: Check planetary alignments and factor in distant body

Q: (L) So something was just lining up.

(Pierre) And easing the discharge.

(Joe) Planetary alignments.

Personally I think the possibility of a brown dwarf star propelling a comet cluster towards Earth and the changes in the sun's solar flares is not being adequately discussed or revealed by NASA.

 

[Phill4]

I believe that they are merely doing what they are told, I do believe there are planets that exhibit conditions and wonders the human eye will never see or fathom, here is a video with several planets recently discovered that seem pretty interesting:

_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KZ1kvIUFrU

The idea that there are indeed incredible wonders out there is fascinating, and I think it is probable that certain planets have conditions that allow possible effects such as little reflection of light, or raining glass, or raining rocks, etc etc..

However, I think that the eye of the telescopes are probably "told" to look away from nemesis, or the comet clusters.

I recall a session where they discussed an object in the outskirts of the solar system and scientists were aware of it. I think the implications of revealing the existence of such a huge object, with characteristics beyond anything constructed by any human being are pretty big.

Aliens and such higher civilizations would no longer be part of the "maybe" or the "unknown", in the mind of a few, they need to keep the population unaware of it because of the mayor consequences to a carefully orchestrated scenario of ignorance and control.
One thing is to say that the government is rules by a few rich families, and another that the entire population has the social and collective awareness that IN FACT there are other civilizations that run this planet, people would have caught up with many lies a long time ago.

For whatever reason, those humans pulling the strings of the world are part of the evolution process of this civilization in 3D, as it is our condition to learn certain lessons without direct interference and by ourselves.



I think that again, some, have awareness of many things happening and at the same time, the right hand doesn't know what the left is doing, In other words, the PTB aren't going to put such sophisticated toys in the hands of a few scientists without any supervision , thus revealing such critical information and throw away their totalitarian agenda..

I also think, as it was mentioned elsewhere, that these type of "news" are put out conveniently as means of distraction , like, yes yes they found a new planet in another solar system, yes very nice, but what about what is happening in this solar system?
They won't even get near the whole global warming stuff, because of the huge political ad social implications it would carry along.

The other thing is that they can't "cover the sun with a finger" , meaning that things are getting too obvious to hide, and a bunch of scientist scattered throughout the world , chances are they will find stuff, I just feel that even those are being monitored so that findings are disseminated in a controlled fashion.

Just some thoughts

 

[goyacobol]

I believe that they are merely doing what they are told, I do believe there are planets that exhibit conditions and wonders the human eye will never see or fathom, here is a video with several planets recently discovered that seem pretty interesting:

_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KZ1kvIUFrU

The idea that there are indeed incredible wonders out there is fascinating, and I think it is probable that certain planets have conditions that allow possible effects such as little reflection of light, or raining glass, or raining rocks, etc etc..

However, I think that the eye of the telescopes are probably "told" to look away from nemesis, or the comet clusters.

I recall a session where they discussed an object in the outskirts of the solar system and scientists were aware of it. I think the implications of revealing the existence of such a huge object, with characteristics beyond anything constructed by any human being are pretty big.

Aliens and such higher civilizations would no longer be part of the "maybe" or the "unknown", in the mind of a few, they need to keep the population unaware of it because of the mayor consequences to a carefully orchestrated scenario of ignorance and control.
One thing is to say that the government is rules by a few rich families, and another that the entire population has the social and collective awareness that IN FACT there are other civilizations that run this planet, people would have caught up with many lies a long time ago.

For whatever reason, those humans pulling the strings of the world are part of the evolution process of this civilization in 3D, as it is our condition to learn certain lessons without direct interference and by ourselves.



I think that again, some, have awareness of many things happening and at the same time, the right hand doesn't know what the left is doing, In other words, the PTB aren't going to put such sophisticated toys in the hands of a few scientists without any supervision , thus revealing such critical information and throw away their totalitarian agenda..

I also think, as it was mentioned elsewhere, that these type of "news" are put out conveniently as means of distraction , like, yes yes they found a new planet in another solar system, yes very nice, but what about what is happening in this solar system?
They won't even get near the whole global warming stuff, because of the huge political ad social implications it would carry along.

The other thing is that they can't "cover the sun with a finger" , meaning that things are getting too obvious to hide, and a bunch of scientist scattered throughout the world , chances are they will find stuff, I just feel that even those are being monitored so that findings are disseminated in a controlled fashion.

Just some thoughts

Felipe4,

Thanks for the feedback. I think there is much truth in what you referred to in the bold part.

I think that again, some, have awareness of many things happening and at the same time, the right hand doesn't know what the left is doing, In other words, the PTB aren't going to put such sophisticated toys in the hands of a few scientists without any supervision , thus revealing such critical information and throw away their totalitarian agenda..

It is the compartmentalization that I suspect is the most effective method for containment or redirection of information.

I am just a little skeptical of videos like the one you found as well as the videos and information I put together. Having such elaborate descriptions about these newly discovered planets and stars anywhere from 4 to 400 or more light years away is really stretches my credulity.

 

[Phill4]

I found this SOTT article the other day and thought of it interesting, which considering their methods used for predicting the conditions of other planets may only scratch the surface (literally) of the nature of planets.

For example, many things can happen in the cosmos, and recalling what happened to the water in Mars from the recent session, no such events have ever been recorded so many things can happen at the cosmic level that are unimaginable and we just don't know.

https://www.sott.net/article/363282-Jupiter-is-not-a-gas-giant-Juno-Jupiter-mystery

The lead scientist, Dr. Scott Bolton, admits essentially that Jupiter is not a gas giant, stating " We're seeing a lot of our ideas were incorrect and maybe naive."

Scientists are puzzled to see that the familiar striped cloud layers 'may be' only skin deep. These zones and belts either don't exist or the Juno microwave instrument just isn't sensitive to it.
The gravity experiment is not seeing a concentrated core at the center of the planet or a pure hydrogen interior, the two competing hypotheses, Dr. Bolton stated "and what we found was that neither are true." Instead, the data suggests a 'fuzzy' core, with unexplained 'anomalous masses'.
The enormously powerful ultraoviolet auroral ovals are imagined to be due to energetic particles descending around the poles, but what the Juno JEDI energetic particle detector has detected to date are streams of electrons coming upward from the polar regions.

Dr. John Connerney states " Its a 180-degree turnabout from the way we were thinking about these emissions."

I think there can be certain window for making assumptions/predictions, but other unknown factors may completely alter the conditions of a planet, I recall an arguments about a start luminosity being "impossible" but the part that many people benefit from exploring "news/discoveries" for recognition and money, they as a whole would need to redraw alot of things if this is a case that gas giants are actually not mainly gas.
So even though there is a machine of exaggerating on these news, these type of discoveries/news like the article above are important to debunk many assumptions.

 

[goyacobol]

I found this SOTT article the other day and thought of it interesting, which considering their methods used for predicting the conditions of other planets may only scratch the surface (literally) of the nature of planets.

For example, many things can happen in the cosmos, and recalling what happened to the water in Mars from the recent session, no such events have ever been recorded so many things can happen at the cosmic level that are unimaginable and we just don't know.

https://www.sott.net/article/363282-Jupiter-is-not-a-gas-giant-Juno-Jupiter-mystery

The lead scientist, Dr. Scott Bolton, admits essentially that Jupiter is not a gas giant, stating " We're seeing a lot of our ideas were incorrect and maybe naive."

Scientists are puzzled to see that the familiar striped cloud layers 'may be' only skin deep. These zones and belts either don't exist or the Juno microwave instrument just isn't sensitive to it.
The gravity experiment is not seeing a concentrated core at the center of the planet or a pure hydrogen interior, the two competing hypotheses, Dr. Bolton stated "and what we found was that neither are true." Instead, the data suggests a 'fuzzy' core, with unexplained 'anomalous masses'.
The enormously powerful ultraoviolet auroral ovals are imagined to be due to energetic particles descending around the poles, but what the Juno JEDI energetic particle detector has detected to date are streams of electrons coming upward from the polar regions.

Dr. John Connerney states " Its a 180-degree turnabout from the way we were thinking about these emissions."

I think there can be certain window for making assumptions/predictions, but other unknown factors may completely alter the conditions of a planet, I recall an arguments about a start luminosity being "impossible" but the part that many people benefit from exploring "news/discoveries" for recognition and money, they as a whole would need to redraw alot of things if this is a case that gas giants are actually not mainly gas.
So even though there is a machine of exaggerating on these news, these type of discoveries/news like the article above are important to debunk many assumptions.

Felpe4,

It is probably a combination of what "they" know and don't know. If they do "Know" some things they still might not want us to know. On the other hand I don't really think they know as much as they sometimes would lead us to believe.

Like this recent reassessment of the water on Mars:

Dry Sands

Oct 6, 2017

The search for water on Mars continues.

According to a recent press release, Mars may not possess the large quantities of water-ice that previous observations suggested. Data provided by the Mars Express orbiter points to, “ice-free, porous, windblown sand” and not subsurface ice. Thomas R. Watters, a senior scientist from the Smithsonian, wrote:

“Our results suggest that caution should be exercised in attributing non-polar deposits on Mars with low dielectric constants to the presence of water ice.”

Water sustains life on Earth, so it is assumed that water must be necessary to establish and nourish life elsewhere. The Mars Express spacecraft, for example, along with rovers on the surface, is attempting to confirm that it exists out in the open on Mars, or that it once flowed as a liquid. Planetary scientists hope they will find regions that are shielded from direct sunlight with water-ice just below the regolith.

Mars Express was launched on June 2, 2003 with a mission schedule designed to last for one Martian year. However, it was re-funded several times over the years, and is now considered to be a continuously operational mission. Hundreds of images from its onboard telescopic camera reveal rock layering, craters, canyons, and cliffs dominated by faulting and pitting. Some features suggest that the observed strata is sedimentary—laid down by water and then eroded by wind.

Research groups studying Mars assume that it is covered with permafrost, because the temperature averages -50 Celsius. It is colder still in the northern and southern latitudes, so cold that carbon dioxide freezes into solid dry ice during the winter months. Therefore, water is thought to accumulate into icy underground reservoirs, preventing it from subliming in the low-density atmosphere.

A previous Picture of the Day noted that subsurface ice deposits larger than California and Texas, combined, are thought to exist in higher latitudes near Arcadia Planitia. An important consideration is that ice is not directly observed, it is the general topography, together with terraces in various craters, that led to the conclusion. Conventional analysts believe that meteors create a certain kind of Martian crater, so when unusually uneven or chaotic craters are found, they think the substrate is the cause. Impacts melted the putative ice deposits that were there, so the churned-up surface winds up being pitted and porous.

Electric Universe theory proposes that Mars was once the scene of powerful electric arcs that cut the planet’s surface. Plasma discharges formed sinuous rilles, flat-floored craters, intersecting gullies with no debris inside them, giant mesas with Lichtenberg “whiskers”, and steep-sided ravines wending through landscapes dotted with circular uplifts.

If Mars was devastated by planetary lightning bolts and not by glaciers or floods, should similar observations on Earth be reconsidered? Perhaps Earth topography was also created catastrophically and not over slow eons of time. Electricity is a powerful formative agent, far more so than soft ice.

Stephen Smith