Dynamic of beings in the course of everyday life.

[placematt]

Hey everyone,

I wanted to post this question. not sure if it has already been answered yet so if so, please point me in the correct direction.

Basically my question is about the dynamic between certain types of beings that one encounters on a day to day basis. From personal experience i have found that the archetypal qualities of the people in my life at any given stage are the same in dynamic.

I even guess people who I'm going to meet and who's role in my life they are filling and I'm usually in the ball park and sometimes spot on. I always have a chuckle about it actually :)

I find that strangers and people in the shops serving me all fit within a certain archetype that is already in my life. They just sort of fill the gap in the dynamic at any moment when that gap isn't being filled. Kinda like a cycle of people that fit into the dynamic thats always been a precedent in my life.

My question is, is there a dynamic of beings or people that cycle in ones life but never changes?


If it does change am I noticing and even guessing the next archetype i will see because people are so similar or is this totally nonsense.

- Matt

 

[kalibex]

Hi, Matt:

I'm having a little trouble parsing the meaning of your query. Could you clarify what it is you feel you're noticing regarding the people you encounter on a daily basis?

 

[Xico]

Hello Matt:

yes, please be more clear an precise when posing a question, this is kind mixed emotions.

 

[luc]

Hi wand3rer,

I don't think this is totally nonsense, since it seems that according to our "lesson profile" and our progress, the universe will arrange our experiences accordingly, including which people come into our life. In other words, the outer world is a reflection of our being - of what we see, of what we give back to the universe and so on:

Life is religion. Life experiences reflect how one interacts with God. Those who are asleep are those of little faith in terms of their interaction with the creation. Some people think that the world exists for them to overcome or ignore or shut out. For those individuals, the worlds will cease. They will become exactly what they give to life. They will become merely a dream in the "past." People who pay strict attention to objective reality right and left, become the reality of the "Future."

However,

I even guess people who I'm going to meet and who's role in my life they are filling and I'm usually in the ball park and sometimes spot on. I always have a chuckle about it actually :)

I find that strangers and people in the shops serving me all fit within a certain archetype that is already in my life. They just sort of fill the gap in the dynamic at any moment when that gap isn't being filled. Kinda like a cycle of people that fit into the dynamic thats always been a precedent in my life.

this comes across as a bit of a self-centered view of reality. People are different and have their own "lesson profiles", struggles, problems and states of being. Most have many "little I's" and can be very different according to different circumstances. All of this you cannot know or guess, I think, especially not from brief encounters. They are not just there to fill gaps, and they don't consist only of some easily recognizable archetypes, osit.

I think maybe it would be a good idea to focus on external considering instead of archetypes and how they relate to you, which means stopping to think about what you think, want or feel, and try hard to take into account other people's wants, needs and feelings. Looking at people only from your perspective - what they mean to your life, how they "fill your gaps", what archetypes they play out for you - is actually quite the opposite of external considering, osit.

So for example, when you encounter someone in a shop, you could forget about your life for a moment, and focus instead on the real situation, on what you actually know about the other human being - in what mood is he/she? How does he/she behave towards you? Smiling? Angry? Friendly? Stressed? And then you can behave so that you make his/her life easier. Just my 2 cents.

 

[Palinurus]

Hi wand3rer,

Your post reminded me of another topic with a similar problem: What is this?

I'm not quite sure reading it would help you out, but I still thought it was worth a long shot into the dark mentioning it here.

Hope this helps a bit. :)

 

[placematt]

Hey everyone,

Will try my best to further expand upon what i mean and clarify!

So for instance I have 2 parents and 3 brothers. At this current time, i live away from them however i see their dynamic in my life being taken up by others.

So the dynamic is still the same its just people have changed. I can trace a great deal of my friends along the same dynamic of one person(sibling) in my life. I guess in a broader sense, i believe i see a broader connection. It could definitely just be my reality and me believing what it is. It's just very noticeable sometimes.

Hi wand3rer,

I don't think this is totally nonsense, since it seems that according to our "lesson profile" and our progress, the universe will arrange our experiences accordingly, including which people come into our life. In other words, the outer world is a reflection of our being - of what we see, of what we give back to the universe and so on:

Life is religion. Life experiences reflect how one interacts with God. Those who are asleep are those of little faith in terms of their interaction with the creation. Some people think that the world exists for them to overcome or ignore or shut out. For those individuals, the worlds will cease. They will become exactly what they give to life. They will become merely a dream in the "past." People who pay strict attention to objective reality right and left, become the reality of the "Future."

However,

I even guess people who I'm going to meet and who's role in my life they are filling and I'm usually in the ball park and sometimes spot on. I always have a chuckle about it actually :)

I find that strangers and people in the shops serving me all fit within a certain archetype that is already in my life. They just sort of fill the gap in the dynamic at any moment when that gap isn't being filled. Kinda like a cycle of people that fit into the dynamic thats always been a precedent in my life.

this comes across as a bit of a self-centered view of reality. People are different and have their own "lesson profiles", struggles, problems and states of being. Most have many "little I's" and can be very different according to different circumstances. All of this you cannot know or guess, I think, especially not from brief encounters. They are not just there to fill gaps, and they don't consist only of some easily recognizable archetypes, osit.

I think maybe it would be a good idea to focus on external considering instead of archetypes and how they relate to you, which means stopping to think about what you think, want or feel, and try hard to take into account other people's wants, needs and feelings. Looking at people only from your perspective - what they mean to your life, how they "fill your gaps", what archetypes they play out for you - is actually quite the opposite of external considering, osit.

So for example, when you encounter someone in a shop, you could forget about your life for a moment, and focus instead on the real situation, on what you actually know about the other human being - in what mood is he/she? How does he/she behave towards you? Smiling? Angry? Friendly? Stressed? And then you can behave so that you make his/her life easier. Just my 2 cents.

I can understand how you would think that man but its not what I'm trying to communicate. I have a chuckle to myself not out of malice, or arrogance towards people. Merely because i see these dynamics being filled by other individuals. I chuckle because its like i know them, i know their relationship with me because I can see whose role they are taking in my life. I know people are people. That these people have their own lives and are far separate from me. It doesn't stop me seeing for the past 5 years the same sort of dynamic. The roles of my brothers and parents being filled.

I don think its about stopping and trying to identity people. Because this isn't an issue. Its just a question. I have been noticing this since 19 and i honestly just wanted to ask the question. Its gotten to the point were i identity the roles of others in other peoples lives. Close friends and such! Its interesting to think about and i understand that existence is a connection. So to some degree it could make a little sense that dynamics shift but stay the same.

But its not like I walk into a shop and think about myself. Thats not at all what I'm saying. Merely saying i identify people in my dynamic when i meet them. I don't treat them bad and i don't stew on it. Its just an subjective observation. Was curious if others had ever noticed something similar :)

Either way i thought it was interesting and its definitely a theory of my own from subjective observation. Just thought i would ask the question. Hope its clarified a bit better.

-Matt

 

[David]

I have no reference for this... but sometimes people get an idea about somebody, this person is such and such... their reactions unconsciously maintain that which brings out whatever ‘I’ so to speak in the other, both serving in some dynamic, till one or the other no longer facilitates in the dynamic.

And/Or some people just call it projection... sometimes

Or such and such seems to be nice person, only then when I am...

 

[Minas Tirith]

Do you mean that the same dynamics that you have with your parents and siblings is playing out over and over again in your life?

Like somebody saying: "I never wanted to have a marriage like my parents" and then they marry someone who even though he doesn't resemble the father at ALL, still the same game is playing out after a while? Or friends who treat you like your brothers did?

I think this is pretty normal - since it's always YOU choosing with whom you would like to be - and in this case subconsciously repeating the dynamic.

From the tone of your post it sounds that you are okay with it, I see it more as something that one better work on, but maybe that's not what you mean?

M.T.

 

[s-kur]

Well, as far as I understood what you've said I can say that such dynamics repeating might be or clear subjective perception or your lesson regarding interaction with one or another people's manifestations. You feel that manifistations and you associate it with your acquaintances. Let's assume that your experience is like that. Have you asked yourself WHY do you meet them? What cause the possibility of your ineraction? Sure even innocent appointment at the shop may leads you both to ineraction which will be followed with opportunities for you both to learn yourself from another sides. So, as for me I think it might kind of lesson you should learn from interaction with them and you'll have met them again and again before you'll comprehence this pattern as you know it.

On the other hand it might be just your interpreting of the moments of your life.

 

[placematt]

Thanks guys. Appreciate your time.

I never really thought of it as anything bad. Because i just put it down to something that was interesting. Say i have one friend who helps me or we have a friendship that is in some way specific because of him/her's qualities, beliefs and values. If i don't see that person for sometime, someone else usually comes in and continues that same dynamic. Its not even really about what they talk about just the certain gap/ dynamic they fill in my life.

I don't think its negative unless me just thinking about whose place they took in that moment is a bad thing. I just have always found it interesting. I sure could be just projecting all of this but i don't think i am. I do try to think the opposite of the conclusion i come too just to give it some form of balanced perception although in other circumstances this doesn't work.


Over the years, this idea of everything, everyone connected played out in terms of this dynamic that i thought i was witnessing. And i still do frequently but perhaps it is my projection.

Either way, this has made me try and describe this which is very beneficial!!!

 

[Alada]

I have no reference for this... but sometimes people get an idea about somebody, this person is such and such... their reactions unconsciously maintain that which brings out whatever ‘I’ so to speak in the other, both serving in some dynamic, till one or the other no longer facilitates in the dynamic.

I think there’s a whole bunch of imagination associated with the question wand3rer, something to guard against. Though it can be true can certain people are ‘placed on our path’ so to speak, I’d be wary of ascribing this too often.

Sure others might fill the role of mother / father / brother / sister, but maybe not the way you seem to think. That the answer is within US, what this or that person sets in motion within us, what programs and reactions run in us most often determines what attributes we ascribe to others. So it’s not a case that people are magically placed there and they happen to be just like so-and-so, they could be very different in many ways, yet our programs are largely consistent.

As Davida suggested, what might happen to your theory if you had greater awareness of yourself and your unconscious programs? How many of these ‘external archetypes’ are permanent, and how many depend only on what programs we’re running as to how others appear to us?

 

[luc]

Either way, this has made me try and describe this which is very beneficial!!!

That's great to hear, wand3rer!

As Alada said, I think it's always a good exercise to question our own thinking, and try to observe what "triggers" us - what causes us to think, feel, or behave in a certain way (self-observation). If we exercise this and learn about our reactions, we then become better able to judge other people's behavior towards us and can become better with external considering, I think.