eating the same food produces antibodies?

mugatea

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I thought this video was interesting enough to post. Two things Thomas says in it that interest me... He is talking about The Egg Diet which is a off shoot of Keto but purely just eggs in the diet. He says if you eat the same things over and over your body starts producing antibodies to that food, raising IGG responses and signals an immune attack every time you eat that food. This interests me as I'm doing carnivore and eat a lot of beef but then he goes on to say that's why gluten is such a problem nowadays compared to 50 years ago when it wasn't such a problem - we eat so much wheat now we have become intolerant to it. Thought it was worth sharing. Btw, Thomas does Keto.

 
Yeps. Some say that it takes between 2 and 5 years to completely clear up if you've developed antibodies for a particular type of food. You may want to read this other thread:
Food Allergy Blood Tests and results
In there you can also find a description of the difference between an allergy and and intolerance, for example.

Based on our results, you can see that meat shows up the least often, though a few people did show a slight intolerance to beef or chicken.
 
Yeps. Some say that it takes between 2 and 5 years to completely clear up if you've developed antibodies for a particular type of food. You may want to read this other thread:
Food Allergy Blood Tests and results
In there you can also find a description of the difference between an allergy and and intolerance, for example.

Based on our results, you can see that meat shows up the least often, though a few people did show a slight intolerance to beef or chicken.

Thanks Chu
 
I definitely notice it. If I eat the same food for a few days in a row, I start to get issues like pain or phlegm. I have to vary things, though within a very limited range because there are some things that hit me hard every time no matter how long I go without them, like dairy and eggs.
 
Ups! i used to eat eggs almost every day,until now i do not feel any strange reaction.But maybe is wise to eat less of them;-D.Thanks mugatea for the info.:flowers:
 
I thought this video was interesting enough to post. Two things Thomas says in it that interest me... He is talking about The Egg Diet which is a off shoot of Keto but purely just eggs in the diet. He says if you eat the same things over and over your body starts producing antibodies to that food, raising IGG responses and signals an immune attack every time you eat that food. This interests me as I'm doing carnivore and eat a lot of beef but then he goes on to say that's why gluten is such a problem nowadays compared to 50 years ago when it wasn't such a problem - we eat so much wheat now we have become intolerant to it. Thought it was worth sharing. Btw, Thomas does Keto.

Interesting... May be true. For many years, after going Keto, I ate mostly beef, it looked fine. but nowadays, I don't feel like eating much beef. so I was eating more chicken, but I don't feel like chicken too after some months. To compensate, I started eating 3 eggs with some meat ( beef or chicken) to make an omelet. Even that I was not feeling like eating either. One thing it makes it little palatable is some steamed vegetables with it and cheating on some nuts.
 
I definitely notice it. If I eat the same food for a few days in a row, I start to get issues like pain or phlegm. I have to vary things, though within a very limited range because there are some things that hit me hard every time no matter how long I go without them, like dairy and eggs.

Indeed.
In an interview with Dr Mercola, Denise Minger, who, about five years ago, famously debunked The China Study. The transcript of the interview is linked below:
https://mercola.fileburst.com/PDF/E...rview-DeniseMinger-DebunkingTheChinaStudy.pdf

The main points of her interview are given below.
She was a vegetarian for 10yrs and then a raw vegan using the 80/10/10 diet, who then, as a result of health problems began to question what she was eating. She moved into the Paleo Movement, and realised that possibly she had transferred her previous dogma to a different one. So, she began to question the low carb and ketogenic diets.

What she came up with was:
For those on an omnivorous diet, it is necessary to eat 'all of the animal', skin, tendons, connective tissues, muscles and organ meats. Just eating muscle meat is pathogenic.
The healthiest populations were seafood eaters living in coastal regions.
Animal protein is not a problem, it is the consistency factor, eating the same foods year-round without any fluctuation in the composition of the diet (Neolithic).
The human body is probably best adapted to protein and carbohydrate cycling, and going through different macronutrient intakes instead of always being consistent in what you are eating.
Her dietary focus is on nutrient density; cooking using gentle methods; balance of muscle meat with organ meat and other animal parts; staggering micronutrients throughout the day, starting (late in the day) with a lot of protein and vegetables, and with carb meals at the end of the day (which helps with sleep and energy levels); intermittent fasting; eating lots of leafy green vegetables (the chlorophyll helps block the absorption of heme iron); and cycling carbs with fatty foods.
 
Is it proteins (in food) that are the main issues with allergies and auto immune response?

Whilst mainstream medical fully embraces the idea that an infection could cause an auto immune response, they are usually reluctant to acknowledge another significant risk factor to populations: vaccinations.

On Vaccines, Adjuvants and Autoimmunity

The Driven Researcher
On Vaccines, Adjuvants and Autoimmunity
POSTED BY CHRISTINA ENGLAND ON NOV 21, 2017 8:05:45 AM
Immunologists survey the research and it’s not reassuring
Add one more item to the growing stack of published medical literature linking vaccines to the current explosion of autoimmune diseases from skin afflictions to neurological disorders. A paper published in October 2015, the journal Pharmacological Research is an international team of immunologists’ roundup of current findings on vaccine-induced disease -- and their conclusions are in sharp contrast to public health’s “safe and effective” mantra that denies any such connection.
“Vaccines and autoimmunity are linked fields,” state the authors led by Luísa Eça Guimarães of the Zabludowicz Center for Autoimmune Diseases in Tel-Hashomer, Israel. Just as natural infections can sometimes induce autoimmune disease, so can vaccination induce autoimmunity that “may be severe and fatal.”
Autoimmunity can manifest acutely, as encephalitis for example, or in a wide range of disfiguring and debilitating immune-mediated illnesses from alopecia to multiple sclerosis. These are soaring globally and together affect as many as one in five Americans today. Officials like those at the National Institutes for Health and the Centers for Disease Control claim some mysterious unidentified “environmental” factors must be responsible for the epidemic, but they obstinately refuse to look at the ever-increasing schedule of injected drugs that target the immune system.
In the paper, the immunologists review current research and case studies of vaccine-induced autoimmunity in light of the new the concept of Autoimmune Syndrome Induced by Adjuvants introduced by leading immunologist Yehuda Shoenfeld in 2011. The ASIA model explains adverse events that have been linked to vaccination since it began according to new understandings of the mechanisms by which vaccine ingredients called adjuvants take effect. Adjuvants are designed to stimulate the immune system but in some individuals can trigger a cascade of immune reactions and symptoms (ASIA) that can eventually manifest as overt autoimmune disease.
Aluminum's Effect as a Vaccine Adjuvant
The paper identifies three documented risks associated with the most common vaccine adjuvant, the metal aluminum: 1) it persists in the body for years; 2) it can “trigger pathological immune responses” and 3) it can “pass through the [blood brain barrier] BBB into the [central nervous system] CNS where it can trigger immune-inflammatory processes, resulting in brain inflammation and long-term neural dysfunction.”
Given aluminum’s well-established neurotoxicity and the increasing schedule of aluminum-containing vaccines for children, this should be terrifying. “Aluminum compounds persist for up to 8-11 years post vaccination in the human body,” say the immunologists. “This fact, combined with repeated exposure may account for a hyper activation of the immune system and subsequent chronic inflammation.”
Bad as that all sounds, they also note that vaccination has been experimentally demonstrated to unleash the immune system’s production of autoantibodies – immune cells mistakenly directed at their host’s cells rather than invaders. “It has been widely demonstrated that autoantibodies can develop years before the manifestation of a full-blown autoimmune disease,” say the immunologists.
Vaccine Adverse Reaction Reports
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Only a fraction of adverse events are reported and no long-term studies have ever been done to compare autoimmune disease in vaccinated vs. unvaccinated individuals or looked at the impact of the full schedule of vaccines on autoimmunity so it is a wonder that the immunologists still assert the general safety of some vaccines. Especially given what they are just learning about others -- like the totally unexpected but now indisputable link between the H1N1 Pandemrix swine flu vaccine used in 2009 and a horrifying epidemic of narcolepsy among children who received the vaccine and will be disabled for life. How many cases of historical narcolepsy were caused by previous vaccines? No one knows.
The immunologists show no sympathy for the HPV vaccine against human papilloma virus, however, though
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it is universally recommended and frequently mandated to girls (and boys) as young as nine to prevent rare adult cervical and anal cancers. “Death rate from cervical cancer in 9-20-year-old girls is zero and long-term benefits are yet to be proven,” say the immunologists. They cite unusually high adverse event reports with the vaccine, including cases of many autoimmune diseases such as paralyzing Guillain Barre syndrome, multiple sclerosis and transverse myelitis and state that “short-term risks to healthy subjects can prove to pose a heavier burden than cervical cancer.”
What This Means?
Future studies must be “better designed,” the paper concludes. Having true placebos rather than comparing one adjuvanted vaccine to another would be a start. And studies should follow recipients for many years rather than the usual month or two and large epidemiological studies of vaccines’ impact on autoimmune disease should be undertaken, the researchers add.
Many parents and even many doctors may be surprised that such studies have never actually been done already, particularly for immune system diseases that are inexplicably soaring.
But even more disturbing than these admissions from top immunologists is the paper’s unintended revelation of just how little is known about how vaccines impact the immune system. It turns out the top doctors don’t have a clue who is really in danger of vaccine injury or why. The study of ASIA and these adjuvant effects is just beginning to bring parts of the whole vaccine/autoimmunity phenomenon into focus. And what is most clear is not at all reassuring.
The Children’s Medical Safety Research Institute (CMSRI) is a medical and scientific collaborative established to provide research funding for independent studies on causal factors underlying the chronic disease and disability epidemic. You can follow CMSRI on Facebook and Twitter for the latest updates.
 
Whoa! That fits with some issue I had with eggs, chicken and beef. After awhile I had to stop eating the same food turning to something else. Felt bloated and sleepy. Eggs become rocks, chicken sort of smack you dry and acidic, beef taste completely inedible. Years ago I may have reached the limit also with rice, just remembering one last supper with it that struck me down very hard after two bites.

Soaking those foods with fat temporarily solved the issue, but at last I had to switch diet.

Thanks for the links!
 
Maybe rotating some bits and pieces may help. I never noticed a real dislike to normal fatty pig meat and I'm eating it since several years and almost every day. To some other stuff like bacon (even if it is from pigs), I'm more sensible and I still prefer normal meat over bacon, but I don't know why.

Also during the week I'm more strict with my food and on weekends I'm having my cheat days, where I'm much more relaxed of what I'm eating, when I'm eating, except for gluten and some other stuff. Generally it is also of help to add just some veggies, even some raw veggies in between, especially when it is too hot outside.
 
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