Edgar Cayce and Adolf Hitler

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Awhile ago I was reading about George Steiner and his views on WW II, anti-Semitism, and so on.

George Steiner wrote a book about Hitler entitled The Portage to San Cristobal of A. H., which was a novel that depicted Hitler escaping from Germany and living out his life in South America. That's a whole other subject that I won't get into here. What caught my attention was Steiner saying that he would have thought it was far more likely for the "Holocaust" to have happened in France than Germany. That kind of surprised me. He said that French anti-Semitism "had a kind of systemic power and political profit" which it didn't have in Germany. He also suggests that had there been a "French Hitler," he would have risen to power more quickly and easily.

Steiner obviously did not believe that Hitler was a product of the "German soul."

Anyway, this triggered in my mind something I had read in a book bout Edgar Cayce where he had described the "soul" of each of the countries around the time of WW II, so I went looking for it. I found a few interesting things besides.

First there is something that appears to be an extract from Sidney D. Kirkpatrick's book, Edgar Cayce An American Prophet (Riverhead Books 2000 ISBN 1.57322.139.2) which says:

In trance, Cayce told the assembled group to look for material changes that would be "as an omen," or "a sign." He went on to describe this in detail: "The earth will be broken up in the western portion of America. The greater portion of Japan must go into the sea. The upper portion of Europe will be changed as in the twinkling of an eye. Land will appear off the east coast of America. There will be the upheavals in the Arctic and in the Antarctic that will make for the eruption of volcanoes in the Torrid areas, and there will be shifting then of the poles ... As to times, as to seasons, as to places, alone is it given to those who have named the name - and who bear the mark of those of His calling and His election in their bodies. To them it shall be given."

The spiritual and physical changes, Cayce said, would touch everyone: "Those in lowly places [shall be] raised to those of power in the ... machinery of nations ... so shall ye see those in high places reduced and calling on the waters of darkness to cover them. [Through] those that in the inmost recesses of themselves awaken to the spiritual truths that are to be given, and those ... that have acted in the capacity of teachers among men, the rottenness of those that have ministered in places will be brought to light, and turmoils and strifes shall enter ... Armageddon is at hand."

It was at this point in the reading that the Source referred to itself as 'I,' not the 'we' that Gladys and the Cayces invariably had come to expect: "I have declared this! That has been delivered unto me to give unto you, ye that sit here and that hear and that see a light breaking in the east, and have heard, have seen thine weaknesses and thine fault - findings, and know that He will make thy paths straight if ye will but live that ye know this day ... Love the Lord thy God with all thine heart ... Love thy neighbor as thyself."

The speaker then revealed 'his' identity: "The weakling, the unsteady, must enter into the crucible and become as naught, even as He, that they may know the way. I, Halaliel, have spoken."

Finally, Halaliel suggested the mechanism that might trigger catastrophic events and bring 'material suffering' on a 'troubled people.' Halaliel said: "The young king will soon rein!" The nation that would produce the "young king" was identified along with his name. The country was "Germany." The king was "Hitler."

Much has been said and written about the prophecies offered in this reading, and about how many of these events actually came to pass. The shattering earth changes would not manifest themselves. And yet the reading was entirely accurate regarding Hitler's reign. Despite the major attention that has been paid this and Cayce's other prophetic readings, an important point has often been lost: the events foretold were ones that could potentially occur given the state of world affairs in January of 1934, when the reading was given. [...]

In a reading Edgar gave on October 7, 1935, long before America's experts had begun to perceive the political and geographical alliances that would soon involve nearly seventy nations, Cayce - in trance - said:

"[International affairs] are in a condition of great anxiety on the part of many, not only as individuals but as to nations. And the activities that have already begun have assumed such proportions that there is to be the attempt upon the part of groups to penalize, or to make for the associations of groups to carry on same. This will make for the taking of sides ... by various groups or countries or governments. This will be indicated by the Austrians, Germans, and later the Japanese joining in their influence - unseen - and gradually growing to those affairs where there must become, as it were, almost a direct opposition to that which has been the theme of the Nazis [or] the Aryan. For these will gradually make for a growing of animosities. And unless there is interference from what may be called ... 'supernatural forces' and influences that are active in the affairs of nations and peoples, the whole world ... will be set on fire by the militaristic groups and those that are for power and expansion in such associations."

In November 1939, two months after Germany invaded Poland and Britain had declared war on Germany, but two years before the United States was brought into the conflict by the Japanese, Cayce, in trance, said what "a sad experience [it] will be for this land [America] through forty-two and forty-three." Four months before Pearl Harbor, a young man deciding whether or not he should serve in the army or navy, asked how long hostilities would last. "Until at least forty-five," Cayce said.

Throughout all of these readings, the Source held out hope, knowing that future events would be avoided if individuals and nations prayed and "lived as they pray." In this sense, the readings seemed to emphasize not only the help available to mankind from the greater powers, but also how the spirituallife of individuals directly affected the values of nations and thus directed the course of human affairs on a global level.

The overriding message in these readings was that the collective will of mankind, and the extent of brotherly love in the world, would determine whether or not there would be war. Back in 1933, when Adolf Hitler was chancellor of Germany - before he had become "Der Fuhrer" - Cayce gave perhaps his most controversial readings on this subject, suggesting that even Hitler had the potential to be a force for positive change in Europe if his personal will could be turned toward the brotherhood of man.

In one reading Hitler was described as being "physically led," and as having been called for a purpose, "not only in the affairs of a nation, but as in the affairs of the world." Cayce admonished, "study ... the impelling influence in the man, in the mind as it has acceded to power," and pointed out that, "few [men] does power not destroy." In one particularly controversial passage, Cayce suggested that the Jews had wandered "far afield, and their rebelliousness and their seeking into the affairs of others has rather brought them into their present position," and made reference to the resurgence of an old influence that would mark "the beginning of the return that must come throughout the earth." Cayce might have been referring to the return of the Jews to their homeland in Palestine, which would become the formalized state of Israel in 1948.

However, the Source specifically stated that Hitler would be a force for good only if he were able to avoid falling into the trap of the forces of 'selfaggrandizement.' From the outset, the Source tempered every positive statement about Hitler with qualifying clauses such as, "if imperialism does not enter in." By January 1934, Cayce stated that, indeed, "[imperialism] is entering." And in 1938, eighteen months before war had officially broken out, and just as Germany annexed Austria, the Source became vitriolic on the subject, referring to Germany as "a smear upon its forces for its dominance over its brother, a leech upon the universe for its own sustenance!" In 1939, three weeks after Hitler invaded Poland, when asked about Hitler's future, the Source answered succinctly: "Death."

Germany was not the only country singled out for criticism. After allying itself with Germany in 1935, Italy was described in the readings as "selling itself for a mess of pottage," and was later denounced for "forcing servitude" upon others. And Japan, which had invaded Manchuria in 1931, was referred to as "domination forces." Cayce also said that England held "ideas of being just a little better than the other fellow," that the sin of France "is the gratifying of the desire of the body," and that the sin of India is "the cradle of knowledge not applied, except within self." The Source did not leave America out, either. Americans, according to Cayce, had to begin to live according to that which was written on their dollar bill - "In God We Trust ... That principle [is] being forgotten ... and that is the sin of America."

Another controversial reference in a reading done around this time was to Russia, which Cayce, in trance, said would emerge as the greater "hope of the world," but "not as that sometimes termed of the Communistic, or the Bolshevistic." Here the Source stressed exactly what Russia would bring: "Freedom, freedom! That each man will live for his fellow man. The principle has been born. It will take years for it to be crystallized, but out of Russia comes again the hope of the world. Guided by ... that friendship with the nation that hath even set on its present monetary unit "In God We Trust."

As inconceivable as this declaration would have sounded to anyone at the time, the Source went on to clarify in a way that made it seem more plausible, adding that this freedom would not come about until it [Russia] "knew freedom" at home. "A new understanding has and will come to a troubled people," Cayce said. "Here, because of the yoke of oppression, because of the self-indulgences, has arisen another extreme. Only when there is freedom of speech, the right to worship according to the dictates of the conscienceuntil these come about, still turmoils will be within."

In 1939, Edgar also gave some highly prophetic readings on the subject of life in America. One reading specifically addressed changes that would result from growing racial and labor-related tensions in the United States. "Ye are to have turmoils [in the aftermath of war]" the Source told ARE members assembled for their eighth annual congress in Virginia Beach. "Ye are to have strifes between capital and labor. Ye are to have a division in thine own land before there is the second of the presidents that next will not live through his office. [For a time there will be] a mob rule!"

Like the readings given on Hitler and World War II, the reference to the deaths of two presidents in office foretold actual events - in this case the deaths of Franklin Roosevelt in 1945 and John F. Kennedy in 1963. Likewise the statement about mob rule could be taken as a foreshadowing of the race riots that would take place in Little Rock, Birmingham, Chicago, and New York. "Then shall thy own land see the blood flow, as in those periods when brother fought against brother," Cayce said in another reading, given on December 2, 1941.

Along with commentary on the nightmare of World War II, which would ultimately leave over seventy-five million people dead or wounded, the readings started down another morbid path, by raising the specter of Edgar's own death. For many people who had come to know and love the 'sleeping prophet' - among them members of the Norfolk Study Group, who believed that 'Armageddon' was near at hand - the suggestion that Edgar was being 'called back' was in keeping with the idea that he would be a more effective force in the affairs of man from the 'other side.'
Next interesting item is the following commentary on Cayce, "Cayce's Secret", with emphasis on his "Hitler reading" as being a colossal blunder:

So far my summary of Cayce's teachings has followed the pattern set by the majority of Cayce writers, and Cayceans should find it familiar enough. Now I would like to introduce some criticisms of the standard. "naive" reading, since on inspection some of its underlying assumptions turn out to be quite hazardous.

To begin with, an obvious sort of question to ask is that of whether the readings are accurately recorded. In fact, they find their way to modem readers through a chain of transmission that usually includes Gladys Davis (who may or may not have "corrected" Cayce's language as she took dictation for him), then whatever writers and publishers were involved in reproducing them.

Without getting into tired hermeneutic controversies over the location of the "text," suffice it to say that I have checked all of my quotations from the readings against the CD-ROM version. which seems to follow the language and orthography of the typewritten readings transcripts more or less reliably.(66) Whether this in turn accurately reflects Cayce's spoken words must be judged on the basis of the one surviving sound recording of a reading, which is unfortunately of abysmal quality and full of gaps. to boot.

Certainly the published books about Cayce cannot be trusted to accurately reproduce material from the readings, although the ubiquitous lapses in this area are attributable to incompetence or unadvertised attempts to "clean up" Cayce's language rather than any intent to deceive. As to whether ARE leaders have suppressed or altered material from the readings. the answer is yes-but only on a very limited scale.

For example. Hugh Lynn kept several readings out of the general collection including his own life readings. which said that he had been the apostle Andrew in a previous life. Hugh Lynn apparently did not want to make this claim public, but changed his mind and restored the readings on being confronted about the missing files by young people at the ARE Camp.(67)

Another of the "lost readings" which remains unpublished is one for Gladys Davis which was removed from the files after her death after legal pressure from relatives who objected to its perceived suggestiveness. To convey some idea of its nature, another reading about Cayce and Davis which was left in the collection promises that "though their bodies may burn with their physical desires the soul of each is and will be knit ... when presented before the throne of Him, who gave and said. 'Be fruitful. and multiply'" (294-9).

Charles Thomas adds that five medical readings whose content is not particularly interesting have also been left out of the general files at the request of their recipients. Some Cayceans have claimed the number of purged readings to be much higher, but I do not see any reason to treat such assertions as anything other than hearsay.

Beyond establishing the text of the readings, there is the question of their context. Cayce writers commonly treat passages from the readings as if they were equally authoritative and generally applicable. despite the fact that most readings are addressed to individuals rather than humanity as a whole. and were delivered in response to a particular situation which is typically ignored by the exegete. (Mark Thurston is a noteworthy exception.) Yet Cayce clearly tailored his message to the person receiving the reading.

While Cayceans have acknowledged this to be a problem with respect to the physical readings (indeed, much of the research into them consists of ARE people trying to pinpoint the commonalities across all readings on a given disease, as opposed to details peculiar to individual patients), similar issues with respect to Cayce's spiritual teachings are seldom considered.

For example, many of Cayce's listeners asked him about certain books, movements, and ideas they were attracted to: and Cayce's advice to them varies considerably even when the topic is the same. It may well be the case that the sleeping, Cayce was less interested in ensuring the doctrinal correctness of his followers than in guiding them to apply values appropriate to them as individuals.

Worse yet, Cayceans generally acknowledge that Cayce's reliability varied with the quality of the inquirer's motivation, among many other variables-- factors which are rarely taken into account by modem commentators except in cases where Cayce appears to have spectacularly messed up.

For example the notorious 1933 "Hitler reading," (3976-13), in which Hitler and the Nazis are praised, was given for an inquirer with pro-Nazi sympathies who eventually emigrated to Nazi Germany in an expression of solidarity with its policies. To their credit. the ARE has published this reading in several places without distorting the magnitude of Cayce's blunder. Two of these imbed the reading within a commentary by Yonassan Gershom, a Hassidic rabbi from Minnesota.(69) To my mind, the fact that such embarrassing material exists is our best guarantee that large-scale expurgations of the Cayce corpus have not occurred. Indeed, it would be hard to imagine, even in principle, more embarrassing readings than the ones which have actually survived and been distributed.
This page, which touches on the same subject, seems to be an apologia for Cayce, "The Hutton Commentaries":

Reading 3976-15
January 19, 1934

Cayce Reading said:
As to the material changes that are to be as an omen, as a sign to those that this is shortly to come to pass - as has been given of old, the sun will be darkened and the earth shall be broken up in divers places - and THEN shall be PROCLAIMED - through the spiritual interception in the hearts and minds and souls of those that have sought His way - that HIS star has appeared, and will point [pause] the way for those that enter into the holy of holies in themselves.

As to the changes physical again: The earth will be broken up in the western portion of America. The greater portion of Japan must go into the sea. The upper portion of Europe will be changed as in the twinkling of an eye. Land will appear off the east coast of America. There will be the upheavals in the Arctic and in the Antarctic that will make for the eruption of volcanoes in the Torrid areas, and there will be shifting then of the poles - so that where there has been those of a frigid or the semi-tropical will become the more tropical, and moss and fern will grow. And these will begin in those periods in '58 to '98, when these will be proclaimed as the periods when His light will be seen again in the clouds. As to times, as to seasons, as to places, ALONE is it given to those who have named the name - and who bear the mark of those of His calling and His election in their bodies. To them it shall be given.

(Q) What are the world changes to come this year physically?1

(A) The Earth will be broken up in many places. The early portion will see a change in the physical aspect of the west coast of America. There will be open waters appear in the northern portions of Greenland. There will be new lands seen off the Caribbean Sea, and DRY land will appear. There will be the falling away in India of much of the material suffering that has been brought on a troubled people. There will be the reduction of one risen to power in central Europe to naught. The young king son will soon reign.....South America shall be shaken from the uppermost portion to the end, and in the Antarctic off of Tierra Del Fuego LAND, and a strait with rushing waters.
The entire hour-long reading was given for a group of people at the home of Mr. and Mrs. T. Mitchell Hastings, 410 Park Avenue, New York City, between 11:40 a.m. and 12.40 p.m., on January 19, 1934. Hugh Lynn Cayce (HLC) conducted the reading, and Gladys Davis was the stenographer. The reading was given in response to a request made by those present, including Carolyn B. Hastings, Josephine L. B. Macsherry, and T. Mitchell Hastings. Mrs. Hastings led in meditation, before Mr. Cayce went to sleep.

We begin with the conductor of the reading, HLC, giving the suggestion. I have no information, incidentally, as to the favorability of HLC with respect to his polarity. If anyone knows anything about HLC's positive or negative polarity, I would like to hear of it. The suggestion itself represents the harmony of the group requesting the reading.

Cayce reading said:
HLC: We seek at this time such information as will be of value and interest to those present, including T. Mitchell Hastings, Jr. in the next room, regarding the spiritual, mental and physical changes which are coming to the earth. You will tell us what part we may play in meeting and helping others to understand these changes. At the end of each fifteen minute period you will pause, until I tell you to continue, while the recording instrument is being arranged. You will speak distinctly at a normal rate of speech, and you will answer the questions which we will ask.
The first three paragraphs of the reading (below) are startling in their candor as to the intent of the group's members. The second paragraph anticipates that others would question the requesters later, about the channel, archangel Halaliel, through which the information was obtained. Such questioning did indeed occur later with respect to the sources mentioned in paragraph three below. And HLC was even asked to give a written opinion as to the Halaliel channel some 40 years after Norfolk Study Group No. 1 had rejected the archangel's offer of help in preparing the group's "Search For God" lessons.

Cayce reading said:
Yes, as each of you gathered here have your own individual development, yet as each seeks to be a channel of blessings to the fellow man, each attunes self to the Throne of universal information. And there may be accorded you that which may be beneficial, not only in thine own experience, but that which will prove helpful, hopeful, in the experience of others.

Many a one may question you as to the sources, as to the channel through such information that may be given you at this time has come. Know it has reached that which is as high for each of you in your respective development as you have merited, and do merit; and has accorded and does accord to the realm of light that which may be aidful and helpful in thine own experience, and in the experience of those that ye in your service to thy fellow man may give unto others.

Hence, in giving the interpretation, MANY are present; many of those whose names alone would bring to others awe - discredit, yet - even a wonderment. For, not only then must the information be instructive but enlightening; yet it must also be so given that it may be a PRACTICAL thing in the experience of thine own self and in the experience of life of thine fellow man. Not only must it be informative in nature, but it must also be that which is constructive; though [pause] that which is informative and that which may be enlightening and constructive must at times overlap one another.
In this last paragraph we understand that the channel, Halaliel, would be passing along only constructive and enlightening information, irrespective of the various sources to which he had access at the time. Note also that criterion 5 (Table 1) seems to have been resolved positively; that is, the ability of the requestors of the information to understand that provided had been taken into account.

As for the physical, mental, and spiritual condition of Cayce when he gave the reading, only his physical condition has ever come into question. Some have said that Cayce was in poor health in the winter of 1933-1934. He did have a bad cold on December 4, 1933 (294-156), but it was much improved by January 6, 1934. (294-166) On January 29, ten days after giving the Halaliel-channeled reading, Cayce obtained another reading (294-169) for "congestion." Note B1, covering the background of 3976-15 (on the CD-ROM for Cayce's readings), says that "before and after, EC was in poor health." Nowhere is it recorded that Cayce was in poor health on the day that he gave reading 3976-15.

The mental attitudes of those present for the reading were exemplary; no greed-based questions were asked, nor were any questions recorded that could have been considered "bothersome" to Cayce.

We continue now with a further consideration of the level of the Halaliel channel. Archangel Halaliel was first mentioned to have been a channel for a Cayce reading on October 15, 1933. (262-56) His name next appeared on October 24, 1933 (5756-10 and 11), as one of the "forces" composed of Lamech, Confucius, Tamah, Halaliel, Hebe, Ra, Ra-Ta, and John. All of these "forces" were said to be available to answer a complicated question about how "the various matters" [of the Universe] came into existence.

Then, on January 7, 1934, members of Study Group No. 1 asked (in 262-57) just who Halaliel was.

Cayce reading said:
(Q) Who is Halaliel, the one who gave us a message on Oct. 15th?

(A) One in and with whose courts Ariel fought when there was the rebellion in heaven. Now, where is heaven? Where is Ariel, and who was he? A companion of Lucifer or Satan, and one that made for the disputing of the influences in the experiences of Adam in the Garden.
On January 8, 1934, we find in reading 443-3, given for a woman seeking mental and spiritual advice, the following question and answer. (This reading was conducted by Gertrude Cayce, said to be a most acceptable conductor due to her negative polarity).

Cayce reading said:
(Q) How high is this source that this information is being given from?

(A) From the universal forces, and as emanated through the teacher that gives same - as one that has been given - Halaliel.
Then, on January 19, 1934, we come to reading 3976-15, when Halaliel gave the entire reading. I believe it is correct to assume that, once again, as happened in reading 443-3 some eleven days earlier, Halaliel transmitted the information in 3976-15 from the source referred to as "the universal forces." These universal forces may or may not be the same as the universal consciousness but, as interpreted by Halaliel, must be assumed to be amongst the highest of those levels available to humankind for information concerning future events.

At the time that Cayce gave reading 3976-15, Study Group No. 1 had not yet decided to reject Halaliel's offer of help. Thus, it would seem that Halaliel was a "clear and acceptable channel" to Edgar Cayce's conscious mind and to HLC's mind as conductor of the reading, at least at this point in time. Halaliel's services as a guide and teacher were not even offered to the group until September 9, 1934. (262-71) This was about nine months after reading 3976-15 was given.

In HLC's 1975 memo [see R3 of 262-56], he says, "Over a period of several readings....and after considerable discussion at the study group meetings a large proportion of Group #1 felt that the purposes and guidance for the group's activities should continue to be focused toward the level of the Christ Consciousness and that the offer of clarification and direction [from Halaliel] should not be accepted." This group "rejection" occurred well after September 9, 1934, although I cannot find the precise rejection date. Thus it is highly probable that when Halaliel announced, halfway through 3976-15, that "I Halaliel, have spoken," the announcement would not have adversely affected HLC's conduct of the remainder of the reading. [...]

This reading came from the highest of sources, the universal forces. It was transmitted to Cayce's subconscious mind by an archangel. Archangel Halaliel acted as a messenger of predictive truth, by using his ability to interpret the universal forces. ... Reading 3976-15, therefore, may be held up as the pre-eminent pole-shift and Earth-changes reading. It will serve as the standard against which all others will be measured. [...]

In recent years some have said that because 3976-15 was given in early 1934, and that because none of the changes described in answer to this question did occur in 1934, all of Halaliel's predictions must be wrong.

Look again, however, at the exact wording of the question. It is, "What are the world changes to come this year, physically?" We must ask, does the word "this" mean "the present," as in "What changes are to come in the present year?" Or, does "this" refer to some word or phrase given earlier in the reading?

The antecedent of "this," in "this year" is "the acceptable year of the Lord," being discussed two paragraphs earlier in 3976-15. The following unbroken quote from the reading shows the connection, and the two times that the word "year" is used are entered in red letters.

Cayce reading said:
Who shall proclaim the acceptable year of the Lord in him that has been born in the Earth in America? Those from that land where there has been the regeneration, not only of the body but the mind and the spirit of men, THEY shall come and declare that John Peniel is giving to the world the new ORDER of things. Not that these that have been proclaimed have been refused, but that they are made PLAIN in the minds of men, that they may know the truth and the truth, the life, the light, will make them free.

I have declared this, that has been delivered unto me to give unto you, ye that sit here and that hear and that see a light breaking in the east, and have heard, have seen thine weaknesses and thine fault findings, and know that He will make thy paths straight if ye will but live that YE KNOW this day -- then may the next step, the next word, be declared unto thee. For ye in your weakness [pause] have known the way, through that as ye have made manifest of the SPIRIT of truth and light that has been proclaimed into this Earth, that has been committed unto the keeping of Him that made of Himself no estate but who brought into being all that ye see manifest in the Earth, and has declared this message unto thee: "Love the Lord thy God with all thine heart," and the second is like unto it, "Love thy neighbor as thyself." Who is thine neighbor? Him that ye may aid in whatsoever way that he, thy neighbor, thy brother, has been troubled. Help him to stand on his own feet. For such may only know the acceptable way. The weakling, the unsteady, must enter into the crucible and become as naught, even as He, that they may know the way. I, Halaliel, have spoken.

(Q) What are the world changes to come this year, physically?

(A) The Earth will be broken up in many places. The early portion will see a change in the physical aspect of the west coast of America. There will be open waters appear in the northern portions of Greenland. There will be new lands seen off the Caribbean Sea, and DRY land will appear. There will be the falling away in India of much of the material suffering that has been brought on a troubled people. There will be the reduction of one risen to power in central Europe to naught. The young king son will soon reign. In America in the political forces we see a re-stabilization of the powers of the peoples in their own hands, a breaking up of the rings, the cliques in many places. South America shall be shaken from the uppermost portion to the end, and in the Antarctic off of Tierra Del Fuego LAND, and a strait with rushing waters.

(Q) To what country is the reference made regarding the young king?

(A) In Germany.
It is always possible to assume that the answer to, "What are the world changes to come this year physically?" had been formulated prior to the start of the reading and that the question really was referring to 1934, because the reading was given in January, at the beginning of that year. But we can just as well assume that an archangel may not like to have his train of thought interrupted. And when the question was asked, Halaliel had just been speaking about "the acceptable year of the Lord."

Buttressing my argument that Halaliel's answer was not referring to a typical 12-month year, consider that Hitler's rise and fall, predicted above, required 11 years after 1934 to be realized. Furthermore, it has taken more like 50 years after 1934 for there even to begin to be "the falling away in India of much of the material suffering" there, also mentioned above. By extension of these observations, we have every right to assume that the Earth changes mentioned above, and in the rest of Halaliel's reading, are yet to come.

The "acceptable year of the Lord" in the Halaliel reading seems to coincide with the period of time mentioned in reading 364-8 that says that the changes will materially come over the 1,000-year period of the first resurrection [when] "He will walk and talk with men of every clime." And the Messiah is to enter "in this period - 1998." (5748-5) Thus, there seems to be a convergence of readings that suggests that the catastrophic Earth changes mentioned in 3976-15 are to occur in 1998 and beyond.

Howard Church ("The Halaliel Question," Venture Inward, May/June 1992) has expressed the opinion that Halaliel's contribution to 3976-15 was limited "apparently" to only a portion of the reading. But Church's fertile imagination casts doubt on this conclusion when he goes on to say, "I think that we might agree that [Halaliel's] tone and style carried a dark, minatory ring, wholly alien to the spirit of the Christ. It was almost as if a "Lord of Karma" might have spoken - which could, in fact define Halaliel's appointed role in the angelic hierarchy." The "tone" referred to by Church actually moves back and forth throughout 3976-15, between "minatory," if one wants to call it that, and constructive, forming one enlightening whole. Thus, it is my opinion that the entire reading was channeled by Halaliel, from the universal forces.
I actually wasn't aware that Cayce was ever channeling such things as alleged archangels. Especially not archangels that declare Hitler to be a "king" and come off like a Fundie preacher calling down hellfire and damnation. Fairly gave me the creeps, it did!

So, I went back to the C's transcripts to search on Cayce to see what might be buried there:

C's said:
22 October 1994

Q: (L) What was the source of knowledge accessed by Edgar
Cayce?

A: Well, he had a unique biochemical composition
which allowed for easy opening and closing of his
consciousness from outside sources without interference with
his electromagnetic flow stream. It is a very unique and
unusual situation. The first manifestation of this was
when he asked for help. If he had not asked for help from
a higher source, possibly his awareness of his abilities
would never have come forth.

Q: (L) What is the source of Lama Sing's knowledge?

A: Lama Sing has studied long and hard in metaphysical
fields through meditation and other areas and therefore a
doorway or channel can be opened voluntarily. This
requires the cooperation of the host and is not as easily
opened or closed as it was in the case of Cayce.

Q: (L) In terms of access levels, which one of the two had
access to the greatest field of subjects or information?

A: Actually Cayce was accessing a somewhat different source,
but the overall accuracy level and the overall intensity
level were greater with Cayce.

Q: (L) In terms of relationships relative to the Cassiopaean
level of knowledge, how would Cayce and Lama Sing relate?

A: The access level is much greater and broader.


9 November 1994

Q: (L) I was reading an article about Cayce's teachings on
the root races. Is this idea as presented by him
basically correct?

A: Close.


26 November 1994

Q: (L) In terms of these Earth Changes, Edgar Cayce is one of
the most famous prognosticators of recent note, a large
number of the prophecies he made seemingly were erroneous
in terms of their fulfillment. For example, he prophesied
that Atlantis would rise in 1969, but it did not though
certain structures were discovered off the coast of Bimini
which are thought by many to be remnants of Atlantis.
These did, apparently, emerge from the sand at that time.

A: Example of one form of symbolism.


3 Dec 1994

Q: (L) Recently there was a supposed secret diary of Edgar
Cayce reported in the tabloids. Was there such a diary?

A: No.


4 March 95

(S) I want to ask something about auras. On some people,
their auras show, by kirlian photography, a white area,
like a halo, behind or around their head or near the
shoulder. What does this mean?
A: Open.
Q: (T) I guess what they mean is that it could be a different
thing on different people.
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Is there a general schematic of aura colors and what
they mean as has been presented by various groups. A: No.
Q: (S) Was Edgar Cayce's readings on colors...
A: Reading anything requires accessing "higher levels" of
understanding which are fluid, not concrete and absolute.


18 March 95

Q: (S) Yes. Edgar Cayce said that the Atlanteans were going
to other planets...

A: Yes. With the same relative ease with which you would fly
to Atlanta.

Q: (B) Strange!

A: Pun intended! Triple! What is the base root of the name?



24 Feb 96

Q: Cayce once said that
he would return in 1998 as a 'liberator.' Did he mean
that he would be born in 1998, or 'activate' in 1998?

A: That is not important.



31 May 1997

Q: Cayce talks about the division in Atlantis between the "Sons of
One" and the "Sons of Belial." Was this a racial division or a
philosophical/ religious division?

A: It was the latter two, and before that, the former one.

Q: When it was a racial division, which group was it?

A: The Sons of Belial were the Kantekkians.

Q: Well! That is not good!

A: Subjective... you are not bodies, you are souls.


7 June 1997

Q: You guys are TOO MUCH! Next: Cayce remarked in one of his
vague dissertations - and for those who accuse the C's of
being vague, they ought to read Cayce, since he was a
MASTER of vague! He could talk for pages and say NOTHING!
- anyway he said that there were a lot of Atlanteans
incarnating between the years 1909 and 1930. He described
them as having strong minds and emotions as well as an
'engorgement' of carnal influences, self-indulgence and
high technical ability. He also warned that there was the
possibility repeating the errors of the past. Now, these
are the people who have set up the world as we have it
today. My question is: are we facing a replay of the
Atlantean situation, in karmic terms?

A: Well, these cycles do replay from an energy standpoint,
but there is always the opportunity to learn and thusly,
to advance. Was not his proclamation for those born
between 1909 and 1930?? And, if so, what is the
significance of when it was delivered, if the orientation
was one of the "present" tense?

Q: So, it was possible that he was referring to the Hitler,
WWII situation.

A: Or just not referring to those of a later "date" because
it was not germaine?

19 July 1997

Q: In a previous
session I asked a question about the 'sons of Belial' and
the 'sons of the law of One,' as explicated by Edgar
Cayce, and whether these were philosophial or racial
divisions. You said that they were initially racial, and
then philosophical and religious.

Now, from putting the
information about religions together throughout the
centuries, I am coming to a rather difficult realization
that the whole monotheistic idea, which is obviously the
basic concept of the 'sons of the law of One,' is the most
clever and devious and cunning means of control I have
ever encountered in my life. No matter where it comes
from, the religionists say "we have the ONE god, WE are
his agents, you pay us your money, and we'll tell him to
be nice to you in the next world!"

A: Clever if one is deceived. Silly truffle if one is not.

Q: Well, I know! But, uncovering this decption, this lie
that the 'power' is 'out there' is unbelievable. So, the
Kantekkians were the 'Sons of Belial,' which is not the
negative thing that I interpreted it as at the time. So,
the 'Sons of the Law of One,' was perverted to the
monotheistic Judaism, which then was then transformed into
the Christian religious mythos, and has been an ongoing
theme since Atlantean times.

A: Woven of those who portray the lights.

Q: And that is always the way it has been. They appear as
'angels of light.' And, essentially, everything in
history has been rewritten by this group.

A: Under the influence of others. And whom do you suppose?

Q: Well, the Orion STS.

A: Sending pillars of light and chariots of fire to deliver
the message.



14 May 1998

Q: Anything in particular about what is going on with the
pyramid, the purported preparations to open the door in
the shaft, the supposed discovery of chambers under the
Sphinx... What exactly IS going on there?

A: That would be long and complex. Best to refer to Cayce.

Q: So, what Cayce had to say is what is going on?

A: Essentially.


4 July 1998

Q: (L) I read where Edgar Cayce said that a slight increase
in global temperature would make hurricanes something like
5 times stronger... given a baseline temperature. Does
this mean we are going to have stronger and more frequent
hurricanes?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Will they hit land more frequently, or just spin out
in the ocean?

A: Either, or.
That's about it. I omitted a couple of remarks that were irrelevant (not questions and no answers). Looking at the material above, about Cayce, and the C's items from May and July of 1997, as well as all the research I did for Secret History which reveals a LOT, it sure looks like Cayce was receiving some negative entities.
 
Laura said:
Awhile ago I was reading about George Steiner and his views on WW II, anti-Semitism, and so on.
Q: So, it was possible that he was referring to the Hitler,
WWII situation.

A: Or just not referring to those of a later "date" because
it was not germaine?


19 July 1997
This would seem to go with the idea that Hitler is not a 'german' soul.
 
Thought I would bump this thread up since the passage where Cayce describes the sins of the various countries deserves a second glance. I was thinking about it today in terms of current events.
 
Laura said:
Throughout all of these readings, the Source held out hope, knowing that future events would be avoided if individuals and nations prayed and "lived as they pray." In this sense, the readings seemed to emphasize not only the help available to mankind from the greater powers, but also how the spirituallife of individuals directly affected the values of nations and thus directed the course of human affairs on a global level.

The overriding message in these readings was that the collective will of mankind, and the extent of brotherly love in the world, would determine whether or not there would be war.

The Source did not leave America out, either. Americans, according to Cayce, had to begin to live according to that which was written on their dollar bill - "In God We Trust ... That principle [is] being forgotten ... and that is the sin of America."


At the present there is plenty of war in the world, and the C's have said that the overall outcome has been decided by humanity already through what we have already done. How much time did they give us? Was it not one and a half to two years. And that was half a year ago.

About the sins of nations I read the ones of England, France, Italy, Japan and the star for Russia, but wonder if these are the same as then, just as many nations were not mentioned. How would it apply today? As for the dollar it is loosing its global status while "In God we trust" notes have been used to finance war, domination and suppression.

Another thought I had was a comparison between nations and the suitors in the Odyssey, but maybe that is taking it too far. There are after all groups within, among and between nations.
 
Another controversial reference in a reading done around this time was to Russia, which Cayce, in trance, said would emerge as the greater "hope of the world," but "not as that sometimes termed of the Communistic, or the Bolshevistic." Here the Source stressed exactly what Russia would bring: "Freedom, freedom! That each man will live for his fellow man. The principle has been born. It will take years for it to be crystallized, but out of Russia comes again the hope of the world. Guided by ... that friendship with the nation that hath even set on its present monetary unit "In God We Trust."

I am in the middle of book 2 of Beelzebubs tales and I found it very interesting that the term "crystallized" was used here, especially in a statement about Russia, which is where the tale I am currently reading is concerned with. The attempted formation of the Trusteeship of peoples temperance, that has an aim of "freeing" russian people from rampant alcoholism.
It just caught my attention....
 
Laurelayn said:
Another controversial reference in a reading done around this time was to Russia, which Cayce, in trance, said would emerge as the greater "hope of the world," but "not as that sometimes termed of the Communistic, or the Bolshevistic." Here the Source stressed exactly what Russia would bring: "Freedom, freedom! That each man will live for his fellow man. The principle has been born. It will take years for it to be crystallized, but out of Russia comes again the hope of the world. Guided by ... that friendship with the nation that hath even set on its present monetary unit "In God We Trust."

I am in the middle of book 2 of Beelzebubs tales and I found it very interesting that the term "crystallized" was used here, especially in a statement about Russia, which is where the tale I am currently reading is concerned with. The attempted formation of the Trusteeship of peoples temperance, that has an aim of "freeing" russian people from rampant alcoholism.
It just caught my attention....

Me too. After all, Gurdjieff's "trusteeship" came "out of Russia", and then took hold in the States. And perhaps his initial impulse will be what "frees" humanity from its addiction? If it's ever going to happen, we have a lot of work cut out for us.
 
I love the way LKJ Put things together. She really does well. She makes it easy to comprehend.
 
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