Eye health: Posterior Vitreous Detachment (PVD)

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A few months ago I went to see an eye doctor as out of the blue I started seeing loads of transparent floaters that were quite big and flashes of light. He concluded it was PVD. I don't know whether this is related, but a few weeks before I had overstrained my eyes during a walk where I had to concentrate rather hard on where I was going which left a burning sensation in my eyes for a couple of days (the dry air didn't help...).

What is PVD?
In general, a lot of people experience floaters from a young age. Floaters seen in youth, are usually cellular remnants of a blood vessel that feeds the developing retina. Once the retina is formed, the blood vessel breaks away and dissolves, but sometimes small remnants are still floating in the vitreous and are usually seen in bright sunlight or against a white background.

Near sighted people typically see more floaters as well. Because the eye ball has grown too long, the retina is stretched thin and it is not uncommon for some cells to break off in this process and float around in the vitreous.

If there is a sudden onset of floaters that is cause for more concern, especially if the floater is large, or appears like a flap or a veil or is stationary. A free floating floater is less cause for alarm, meaning, when you try to look at it, it moves out of your line of sight. If free floating, it is no longer attached to the retina and will not cause a hole or tear because it is no longer attached and tugging on the retina. If there are flashes of light, this means the floater is still attached to the retina and the tugging is stimulating the nervous system, which in the eye, is seen as light.

If there is a sudden onset of floaters, this could be a Posterior Vitreous Detachment (PVD). It is very common as we age and is typically the diagnosis for sudden onset of floaters. A PVD means the vitreous has pulled away from the retina, but it will not cause a loss of vision. It is just the effects of gravity over time. It is mainly an annoyance for most people, until it settles out of the line of sight. If the flashes of light continue, I would certainly recommend a dilated retinal exam. An eye doctor will be able to see the PVD on exam and rule out any holes or tears. If the flashes have stopped, the vitreous face has broken free, although the floaters will still be there.
BTW, PVD can also occur in younger people or so I heard.

The vitreous has now pulled away from the retina without any complications, but there is still this "net curtain" over my eye (it's like wearing dirty glasses) which will hopefully disappear. I am taking all kinds of supplements which could be beneficial for the eyes and I will list them underneath with links and all:
* Lutein
* Bilberry (tincture)
* Meso-zeaxanthine and zeaxanthine:
Meso-zeaxanthin, zeaxanthin and lutein are fat-soluble xanthophyll carotenoids with the same biochemical formula, but each with a slightly different spatial structure (stereoisomers). The three antioxidants concentrate highly in eye tissues (especially in the macula lutea or yellow spot, the area of the retina that allows sharp vision and the perception of colors) and protect against eye diseases, including age-related macular degeneration (AMD), the leading cause of blindness in Western countries. The yellow macular pigment consists of equal amounts of lutein, zeaxanthin and meso-zeaxanthin, with lutein being found particularly in the peripheral region, zeaxanthin in the middle region and meso-zeaxanthin in the center of the macula. Presumably, meso-zeaxanthin photoreceptors provide the best protection against oxidative damage. The three xanthophyll carotenoids, also present in brain tissue, are important for brain function (cognition) throughout life.

Lutein and zeaxanthin are present in small amounts in green leafy vegetables and yellow and orange vegetables and fruits, among others. Meso-zeaxanthin is practically not found in our diet and is formed (among other things) in eye tissue via enzymatic conversion of lutein. Meso-zeaxanthin can also be taken as a dietary supplement, preferably in combination with lutein and zeaxanthin. In addition to strong antioxidant activity, meso-zeaxanthin also has powerful anti-inflammatory, resistance-enhancing, detoxifying, hepatoprotective, antimutagenic and anticarcinogenic properties.
Copyright (C) Orthokennis Meso-zeaxanthine | Stichting OrthoKennis
* (Fish) collagen
In your eyes, more and more research has pointed to the idea that decreasing collagen, and/or mutations in collagen, which occurs with aging, can result in cataracts as well as glaucoma. Prior research out of India, Possible role of lens collagen in cataractogenesis, (Indian Ophthalmology Journal 1997), has suggested that lack of collagen in the lens of the eye can result in the development of cataracts. Cataracts are crystallized bits that form on the eye lens and cause obstruction of vision. It’s estimated that 50 million, or more, people around the world have cataracts and is the leading cause of blindness. Age-related cataract development is responsible for about 80% of all cataracts and aging decreases in collagen is thought to be a major factor in addition to others like nutrition decline and environmental exposures (sun, wind, pollutants). After the age of 50, your risk for developing cataracts increases greatly.
* Hyaluronic acid
* Supplements that stimulate blood circulation
* Nattokinase
* MSM (also in eye drops together with silver); the eye drops provide great relief BTW
* Calcium citrate, potassium citrate and magnesium

I also had Reiki and a facial fascia massage! That must have worked like a charm together with everything else, because I felt that all kinds of toxins were released immediately and the adhesions in my face dissolved.
 
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I hope all the symptoms go away soon!

I recently heard from a renowned herbalist, that blueberries are very good for general eye health. He mentioned it in passing, but after doing a little research it seems that it's true. Here's an article talking about it for example:

Blueberries, the fruits that save the eyesight

Antioxidant and anti-inflammatory properties for the well-being of sight, help protect eyesight from age-related diseases but also help to improve vision, the process of accommodation, even in the presence of myopia, and counteract visual fatigue

In the complex and fascinating mechanism of vision, light is filtered by the different parts of the eye, such as the cornea, lens and vitreous humor before reaching the retina. The photoreceptors in the retina convert light into electrical impulses which are then conveyed to the brain through appropriate cells and the optic nerve. In the retina, due to the complexity of the processes in place, cellular respiration is faster than in any other tissue in the body and this exposes the eye to a greater risk of suffering from oxidative stress. What can be done to counteract the damage caused by free radicals that can lead, in the long term, to an increased risk of developing diseases such as macular degeneration or cataracts? Not only that, is it also possible to act in case of vision problems such as myopia, dry and tired eye? Nutrition can also help in these cases. In fact, even if the retina is actively protected by what is called the brain blood barrier, some antioxidant substances taken through diet, such as anthocyanins, can overcome this barrier, reach the tissues of the eye and act with antioxidant and anti-inflammatory properties (Kalt et al, Adv Nutr, 2020).

A valuable source of anthocyanins are blueberries and studies have shown that integrating ever greater doses of blueberries into the diet also increases, in a directly proportional way, the amount of anthocyanins in the eye (Kalt et al, J Agric Food Chem, 2010). Clearly, as with any other food, you should never overdo it but let's see why it is a good choice to integrate blueberries in a healthy and balanced diet.

Blueberries and visual diseases such as cataracts, glaucoma and macular degenerations

Several studies have shown that there is an association between blueberry consumption and a reduced risk of developing macular degeneration (Kalt et al, Adv Nutr, 2020). The anthocyanins of blueberries, following a prolonged intake of at least a month, have also been found to be useful in helping to stabilize intraocular pressure, even in the case of diagnosed glaucoma (Kalt et al, Adv Nutr, 2020). In fact, it seems that the action of the anthocyanins in blueberries is aimed at relaxing the ciliary muscle which controls the production of aqueous humor and contributes to the regulation of ocular pressure (Nomi et al, Molecules, 2019). In general, blueberries help to counteract oxidative stress but also inflammation in the retina, which is the distinctive feature of various eye diseases, preserving photoreceptors, which are nerve cells responsible for transforming light into an electrical response. (Kalt et al, Adv Nutr, 2020). Researchers believe that blueberry extracts may help, given these properties, counteract diabetic retinopathy as well (Huang et al, Oxid Med Cell Longev, 2018). Instead, to date, research has not yet been able to understand whether blueberries can also be protective against cataracts.

Blueberries and vision

Anthocyanins in blueberries have been shown to improve vision accommodation and reduce eye fatigue in people with myopia (Kalt et al, Adv Nutr, 2020). It is believed that this effect is due to an improvement in visual sensitivity to contrasts and relaxation of the ciliary muscle, responsible for accommodating distant vision (Nomi et al, Molecules, 2019). Not only that, the intake of blueberries for at least 3 weeks is also linked to a better and faster recovery capacity following dazzle by light (Kalt et al, Adv Nutr, 2020 - Kalt et al, J Agric Food Chem, 2014). Finally, good news also for those who have to spend many hours in front of a computer screen and at the end of the day find themselves fighting with tired eyesight and eye irritation. In fact, the intake of blueberry extracts, for at least two months, led to an improvement in the stability of vision and of all those symptoms related to ocular fatigue, such as blurred vision, pain and sensation of heavy eyelids (Ozawa et al, J Nutr Health Aging, 2015).

All the ways to integrate blueberries into your diet

You can consume fresh blueberries when it is in season but also frozen all year round. In fact, the anthocyanin content is preserved in frozen blueberries and therefore their antioxidant and protective capacity for eyesight (Kalt et al, Adv Nutr, 2020). Not only that, there are also blueberry extracts. Indeed, several studies on the beneficial effects of blueberry on sight have been carried out with extracts that you can find in chemist's and herbalist's shops. In this case, however, ask your doctor for advice before starting treatment, especially if you are taking anticoagulant drugs as blueberry has an antiplatelet action (Chan et al, Molecules, 2020). Finally, blueberry juice is also rich in anthocyanins and therefore has antioxidant and sight-saving properties (Ma et al, Int J Mol, Sci, 2018). On the other hand, dried blueberries lose a lot of their properties as the amount of anthocyanins is reduced.
 
I hope all the symptoms go away soon!
Thank you, I only just saw your post.:flowers:
I recently heard from a renowned herbalist, that blueberries are very good for general eye health.
I think it's the same as bilberry, it's also called European blueberry or vaccinium myrtillus?

Also, saffron seems to work, but it's not cheap.
The antioxidant and anti-inflammatory properties of saffron may make it a potential treatment for eye diseases.

A 2017 study looked at the effects of saffron in 54 people with dry age-related macular degeneration (ARMD).

Researchers split participants into two groups: a control group and a treatment group. The treatment group took 50 milligrams (mg) of saffron daily for 3 months.

Before and after the study, researchers measured:
  • participants’ visual acuity, which is the ability to see shapes or objects clearly at certain distances
  • participants’ contrast sensitivity, which is the ability to see subtle differences in shading or patterns
  • the thickness of participants’ retina
  • participants’ quality of life due to low vision
Researchers found a significant improvement in visual acuity and contrast sensitivity in the treatment group and no improvement in the control group.

This led the researchers to conclude that short-term intake of saffron may slow the progression of dry ARMD and help improve vision.
And I stumbled upon this beauty, called eyebright or euphrasia.
Eyebright is a herb that’s native to the heaths and dry meadows of Europe.

Eyebright flower parts were traditionally used to manage eye infections, alleviate cold symptoms, and reduce inflammation. It has also been used to help with allergy symptoms.
Fun fact, in Dutch it is called consolation for the eyes, ogentroost.

1. May Support Eye Health​

Various studies and traditional accounts suggest that eyebright supports the healing of some eye conditions.

The whole eye, including tissue and structures, can become infected by viruses and bacteria. Symptoms of an eye infection include redness, itching, irritation, mucous discharge, and excessive tearing. Eye infections are highly contagious and, if left untreated, can result in blurred vision or blindness.

In a randomized trial observing infants with eye discharge, Euphrasia eye drops® reduced the symptoms, like redness and tearing. Although the eyebright drops did not significantly improve treatment success, researchers noted that they could alleviate associated symptoms.

Another clinical study involving patients with eye conjunctivitis (pink eye) discovered that eyebright eye drops reduced symptoms and/or cured more than 85% of participants. The best results occurred when patients received 1 drop, 3x per day.

In a lab-based study observing human eye cells, researchers noted that eyebright extract shows promising therapeutic effects for eye disorders, like dry eye and ocular allergies. Eyebright appears to be able to do this by reducing inflammation.

A combination lab-based study involving eyebright and chamomile (Matricaria chamomilla) eye drops (Dacriovis™) observed that the eye drops protected eye cells from UVB radiation-induced cell death and improved healing conditions. The drops achieved these results by providing an anti-inflammatory and antioxidant effect on the eye cells.

The European Medicines Agency suggests taking eyebright for “symptomatic treatment and prevention of conjunctivitis…[and] minor ocular (eye) diseases.”

The American Botanical Council recommends this herb for “the treatment of conjunctivitis, sties, and other ailments of the eye.”

AHG Registered Herbalist, David Hoffmann, explains that Euphrasia officinalis is supportive of eye conditions like “acute or chronic inflammations, stinging and weeping eyes, and oversensitivity to light.”

World-renowned herbalist, Rosemary Gladstar, suggests well-strained eyebright tea “as an eyewash or compress for eye fatigue, conjunctivitis, sties, and other congestive conditions of the eye with profuse tearing.”

In A Modern Herbal, revered herbalist Maude Grieve recommends eyebright for “diseases of the sight, weakness of the eyes, ophthalmia,…[and] general disorders of the eyes.”

In the King’s American Dispensatory, Dr. Felter and Dr.Lloyd discuss eyebright’s support of “catarrhal ophthalmia,” which refers to an inflamed eye coupled with discharge.

I also took a few homeopathic remedies like euphrasia.

 
A few months ago I went to see an eye doctor as out of the blue I started seeing loads of transparent floaters that were quite big and flashes of light. He concluded it was PVD. I don't know whether this is related, but a few weeks before I had overstrained my eyes during a walk where I had to concentrate rather hard on where I was going which left a burning sensation in my eyes for a couple of days (the dry air didn't help...).

What is PVD?

BTW, PVD can also occur in younger people or so I heard.

The vitreous has now pulled away from the retina without any complications, but there is still this "net curtain" over my eye (it's like wearing dirty glasses) which will hopefully disappear. I am taking all kinds of supplements which could be beneficial for the eyes and I will list them underneath with links and all:
* Lutein
* Bilberry (tincture)
* Meso-zeaxanthine and zeaxanthine:

* (Fish) collagen

* Hyaluronic acid
* Supplements that stimulate blood circulation
* Nattokinase
* MSM (also in eye drops together with silver); the eye drops provide great relief BTW
* Calcium citrate, potassium citrate and magnesium

I also had Reiki and a facial fascia massage! That must have worked like a charm together with everything else, because I felt that all kinds of toxins were released immediately and the adhesions in my face dissolved.

Thanks for posting this Mariama.

I've had similar issues the last several weeks with the light flashes, though the floaters have always been there. The problem seems to have resolved on it's own now, but I think an eye exam might be a good idea.
 
The herb ginkgo biloba could also be helpful, not just for PVD, but also for cataracts, glaucoma and macular degeneration. It's a versatile herb, and amongst others increases 'vascular dilation, blood flow and the health of blood vessels'.

From Prescription for herbal healing by Phyllis A. Balch:

Macular degeneration is associated with an overgrowth of capillaries in the macula - the part of the retina responsible for fine vision. These tiny blood vessels are often weak and leak into the surrounding tissues, damaging them. Ginkgo can stop this process by deactivating PAF, which is essential for the growth of new capillaries. The extract increases circulation within the eye, which supplies more oxygen to the retina. ginkgo increases circulation to the lens and acts as a free-radical scavenger, slowing the process of cataract formation. The herb works by reducing retinal edema and cellular lesions in the retina. Thus, ginkgo may be helpful for people with eye conditions [...].
 
An eye exam might indeed be a good idea, especially with all the turmoil ahead of us. Keep us posted, will01 if you wish.

The local optometrist concluded that my issue was PVD as well. Fortunately the exam revealed that the eyes were in good health overall, with no retinal damage, healthy blood vessels and optic disk.

They have some amazing equipment available these days and it was interesting to view the digital images.
 
The local optometrist concluded that my issue was PVD as well. Fortunately the exam revealed that the eyes were in good health overall, with no retinal damage, healthy blood vessels and optic disk.

They have some amazing equipment available these days and it was interesting to view the digital images.
Was wondering how you went @will01! PVDs are fairly common but the main thing is ensuring the retina is fine & keeping up regular check ups. Glad it was all good & yeah the tech is pretty amazing nowadays. It must be a relief!
 
I developed PVD a few years ago, first in one eye and then about 6 months later in the other. The floaters are annoying, especially when I am driving. Sometimes my brain seems to overide them and other times they seem really obvious to me. I always worry about my eyesight as I am myopic and my dad had macular degeneration and glaucoma and both parents had cataracts. I had the examination and photography done and examined and was told that my eyes were healthy. I might give the ginkgo biloba a try.
 
The local optometrist concluded that my issue was PVD as well. Fortunately the exam revealed that the eyes were in good health overall, with no retinal damage, healthy blood vessels and optic disk.
That's wonderful! I am glad to hear it.
I developed PVD a few years ago, first in one eye and then about 6 months later in the other. The floaters are annoying, especially when I am driving. Sometimes my brain seems to overide them and other times they seem really obvious to me. I always worry about my eyesight as I am myopic and my dad had macular degeneration and glaucoma and both parents had cataracts. I had the examination and photography done and examined and was told that my eyes were healthy. I might give the ginkgo biloba a try.
Floaters can be distracting, which isn't helpful, having to concentrate on traffic. They don't always bother me, most of the time I don't even notice them, in my case it's more like my eye feels infected and there is this haze over it. I think It's a good idea to take ginkgo biloba! It has many benefits, so even if you don't notice any improvement in your eye it could improve blood circulation to the brain. I really hope these floaters will become less obvious to you. Perhaps 'always' worrying about your eye sight affects your ability to override them? After being told about the benefits of some supplements I did some research into all kinds of herbs and what have you and that made me feel much more confident that I could tackle this thing even if the floaters persist.
 
Was wondering how you went @will01! PVDs are fairly common but the main thing is ensuring the retina is fine & keeping up regular check ups. Glad it was all good & yeah the tech is pretty amazing nowadays. It must be a relief!

They recommended a check up every two years, so I will do that.

Thanks for your advice on the issue as well mate, much appreciated.

That's wonderful! I am glad to hear it.

Thanks Gwenllian.
 
Perhaps 'always' worrying about your eye sight affects your ability to override them? After being told about the benefits of some supplements I did some research into all kinds of herbs and what have you and that made me feel much more confident that I could tackle this thing even if the floaters pers
Thank you for your advice. I do worry too much about various things, my eyesight being one of them. I will try the ginko and "chill out" a bit :lol:
 

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