Failed Trump Assassination Attempt
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I know Trump isn't perfect, has his flaws etc, etc, and we all have opinions on what he's about. At this point, I'm down to absolute basics concerning him. If he gets in the country has a good chance of surviving if he doesn't we're screwed. Thats about it. All the rest is excess baggage at the moment.Trump is VERY easily influenced by his advisors. He makes 2 problematic assumptions when dealing with people who are his advisors (and potentially not family) and they are:
1. That they're actually competent and have access to ALL pertinent information (when they may not) and,
2. That they loyal to the USA and have the best interests of other people (apart from themselves and the State of Israel) uppermost in their minds and actions. I.e. that their actions are beneificent, when they may not be. where screwed.
He puts too much trust in his advisors because Government, and it's accompanying Deep State, is not his area of expertise.
Another character trait that Trump has which can be both an positive and as well as a huge negative in terms of his role as potential President, is his ego. It stands him in good stead when he has to take the stage, or stand up against other 'powerful' people, but conversely, he doesn't like being 'outshone' or gainsaid by people who might have more charisma, more knowledge and more ability in a particular area. These are the people who may disagree with him, stand up to him, 'push back' and stop him from being 'vectored' by Deep State people. They help him be more realistic, more in touch with the average voter and issues and will react most strongly against truly bad ideas. He has a tendency to sideline these people.
Remember, this is a person who was going to 'run' on how GOOD Operation Warp Speed was. The SAME people who told him to do that are mostly likely advising him on Iran and Israel's behaviour in general.They're Deep State operatives and they are heavily embedded in his campaign. At least that's been my perspective from the point of view of another discussion group I'm part of.
For 8 years I've endured this "I hate Trump" propaganda machine twisting susceptible peoples minds. I'm not saying anyone here has been brainwashed in that way, there are valid criticisms of Trump as well. My rather over the top support of Trump (your quote) was a response to the very negative stuff which was being shared here.
This could explain it:
According to a few articles on the arrest, it seems that Sheriff Bianco's view that his deputies prevented a third assassination attempt are likely overblown and owing to Vem Miller being a believer in the 'sovereign citizens' conspiracy movement and the Sheriff's perception of that movement being radical and dangerous because they reject laws they don't like.
Sheriff Bianco mentions that Miller was driving a vehicle he owned but had not registered with the state due to his belief in the sovereign citizens movement where one doesn't have to register a vehicle with the state for reasons that are convoluted and he was using a homemade license plate for the same reason. Presumably his fake passports are fake because they were similarly either homemade or were created based on the convoluted theorizing of the sovereign citizen conspiracy movement and not because it was a passport given to him by someone like the CIA or FBI, though I haven't found anything to confirm this. His guns, according to a tweet that I can't find and haven't verified yet, were allegedly legal in his home state of Nevada but not when he crossed over into California. Also, according to the Daily Beast article I linked to Miller claims he told the officer that he had these weapons in his vehicle as a courtesy and so that makes it seem less likely he was up to something nefarious.
Vem Miller's 'The America Happens Network' website is full of interviews and videos on the Deep State and various conspiracy musings which point to Miller being supportive of Trump and not a likely candidate for an assassin. Further, Miller's business partner for TAHN has come out on Twitter saying that calling Miller a would-be Trump assassin is not only overblown but likely misconstrues what he's likely to have said.
So yeah, looks to me like the Sheriff is blowing things out of proportion. Not out of malice but out of hyper-vigilance.
Sheriff Bianco mentions that Miller was driving a vehicle he owned but had not registered with the state due to his belief in the sovereign citizens movement where one doesn't have to register a vehicle with the state for reasons that are convoluted and he was using a homemade license plate for the same reason. Presumably his fake passports are fake because they were similarly either homemade or were created based on the convoluted theorizing of the sovereign citizen conspiracy movement and not because it was a passport given to him by someone like the CIA or FBI, though I haven't found anything to confirm this. His guns, according to a tweet that I can't find and haven't verified yet, were allegedly legal in his home state of Nevada but not when he crossed over into California. Also, according to the Daily Beast article I linked to Miller claims he told the officer that he had these weapons in his vehicle as a courtesy and so that makes it seem less likely he was up to something nefarious.
Vem Miller's 'The America Happens Network' website is full of interviews and videos on the Deep State and various conspiracy musings which point to Miller being supportive of Trump and not a likely candidate for an assassin. Further, Miller's business partner for TAHN has come out on Twitter saying that calling Miller a would-be Trump assassin is not only overblown but likely misconstrues what he's likely to have said.
So yeah, looks to me like the Sheriff is blowing things out of proportion. Not out of malice but out of hyper-vigilance.
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Ketone Cop
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Ron Unz wrote an article about Vem Miller. It does look like this case is seriously overblown, and potentially an attack against the "Sovereign Citizens" movement. Vem Miller is his own man and the ruling class doesn't care for people like that. What better way to demonize a movement that promotes personal autonomy than to get conservatives themselves to hate Mr. Miller and what he stands for "because he tried to kill Trump!?"
This report says fears of an Iranian attack is the reason for this but I personally think thats a red herring.
"Donald Trump’s campaign requested military aircraft for Trump to fly in during the final weeks of the campaign, expanded flight restrictions over his residences and rallies, ballistic glass pre-positioned in seven battleground states for the campaign’s use and an array of military vehicles to transport Trump."
The report further calls the requests "extraordinary and unprecedented" given that "no nominee in recent history has been ferried around in military planes ahead of an election.
www.zerohedge.com
"Donald Trump’s campaign requested military aircraft for Trump to fly in during the final weeks of the campaign, expanded flight restrictions over his residences and rallies, ballistic glass pre-positioned in seven battleground states for the campaign’s use and an array of military vehicles to transport Trump."
The report further calls the requests "extraordinary and unprecedented" given that "no nominee in recent history has been ferried around in military planes ahead of an election.
Trump Campaign Requests Military Aircraft With Antimissile Capabilities Amid Iran Threat | ZeroHedge
ZeroHedge - On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero
www.zerohedge.com
And then there's the following:
The short of it is, he is an Armenian and he says he's a Trump supporter, he has never fired a weapon in his life, the fake documents aren't fake and he is not a supporter of the sovereign citizens movement.
The short of it is, he is an Armenian and he says he's a Trump supporter, he has never fired a weapon in his life, the fake documents aren't fake and he is not a supporter of the sovereign citizens movement.
Man arrested outside Trump Coachella rally denies assassination intent; he's 'all in' supporting Trump
Ketone Cop
Jedi Council Member
I'm not fully on-board with everything GatewayPundit posts, but this article fleshes out even more of this "assassination attempt:"
www.thegatewaypundit.com
What I find really interesting is how almost every alt-news website you can find at this time is posting articles that are absolutely devastating to the Democratic/Israeli cause - and, it's now bleeding over into the MSM, at least in small amounts. I find myself wondering it there's some other, greater agenda at play here. In any case it does seem that this American election cycle is outing a hell of a lot of skeletons, just in time for Halloween!
BREAKING: Man Accused in ‘Third Trump Assassination Attempt’ Breaks Silence — Reveals Full Story and Blasts Fake Reports Against Him | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hᴏft
49-year-old Vem Miller, arrested near former President Donald Trump’s rally in Coachella, California, has spoken out, denouncing claims of an assassination attempt and blasting the ‘fake news’ surrounding the incident.
www.thegatewaypundit.com
What I find really interesting is how almost every alt-news website you can find at this time is posting articles that are absolutely devastating to the Democratic/Israeli cause - and, it's now bleeding over into the MSM, at least in small amounts. I find myself wondering it there's some other, greater agenda at play here. In any case it does seem that this American election cycle is outing a hell of a lot of skeletons, just in time for Halloween!
Trump's statements about the alleged attempts on his life by Iran not only strengthened the future success of the Deep State narrative and its potential to carry out an attack in a more professional manner but also the potential for a war of global consequences. It also made it easier for Mossad to try to assassinate him, blame Iran, and draw the United States into war. With deception you will wage war, goes the motto of the Israeli intelligence service.
Trump will have a great responsibility in the annals of history.
Trump will have a great responsibility in the annals of history.
This whole "third" assassination attempt is starting to stink to high heaven. The Gateway Pundit's article about it exposes all the lies and misconceptions plus the endangering of Miller's physical health and it does seem like there's more involved here than meets the eye:
BREAKING: Man Accused in ‘Third Trump Assassination Attempt’ Breaks Silence — Reveals Full Story and Blasts Fake Reports Against Him | The Gateway Pundit | by Jim Hᴏft
49-year-old Vem Miller, arrested near former President Donald Trump’s rally in Coachella, California, has spoken out, denouncing claims of an assassination attempt and blasting the ‘fake news’ surrounding the incident.
www.thegatewaypundit.com
The posted Roger Stone X/tweet:
Four pics of Miller with prominent, relevant people and Miller's own 1:15:30 testimonial vid included in the GP article. The entire incident seems quite suspicious particularly how wildly it made the news! THIRD ATTEMPT ON TRUMP'S LIFE!!! Even Sott (via RT) with this editor's note:
Yeah - what's wrong with this picture?!
