Fairy with rose

[Eliza]

When I get bored I love to draw fairies or other mystic creatures.
And here's one example.

 

[Vulcan59]

Hi Eliza,

Nice drawing. My eldest is also named Elizabeth.

By the way you mentioned "Elizabeth is the name of my guardian angel" in your introductory post. I am kind of curious about guardian angels. How do you know that you have one and how do you determine that it is a guardian angel?

 

[Eliza]

Hi Eliza,

Nice drawing. My eldest is also named Elizabeth.

By the way you mentioned "Elizabeth is the name of my guardian angel" in your introductory post. I am kind of curious about guardian angels. How do you know that you have one and how do you determine that it is a guardian angel?

Everyone has one or more guardians. They could be friends or family from past lifes or even part of your soul.
Now one of my guardians is a great-grandfather from my dad's side. And the other (Elizabeth) is one part of my whole soul.
I just asked directly several times sort of telepathic what the name of my guardian angel was and I always got the same answers like: eliza, lisa or elizabeth.
Then a few years ago I talked with a person that could contact 'the other side' (or how should I say it..) and he also told me the same things.
So for me it was clear that she is the one that helps me sometimes and guides me through life.
If you wanna know the name of your guardians I should suggest that you could just ask on moments when you are relaxed and maybe the answers will flow just like they did with me. :)

 

[anart]

Everyone has one or more guardians. They could be friends or family from past lifes or even part of your soul.
Now one of my guardians is a great-grandfather from my dad's side. And the other (Elizabeth) is one part of my whole soul.
I just asked directly several times sort of telepathic what the name of my guardian angel was and I always got the same answers like: eliza, lisa or elizabeth.
Then a few years ago I talked with a person that could contact 'the other side' (or how should I say it..) and he also told me the same things.
So for me it was clear that she is the one that helps me sometimes and guides me through life.
If you wanna know the name of your guardians I should suggest that you could just ask on moments when you are relaxed and maybe the answers will flow just like they did with me. :)

Hi Eliza, I think it will be very beneficial for you to finish reading the Wave Series. You'll find out about hyperdimensional realities and about how almost nothing is as it appears, or is as it is presented to us, especially by those we 'can't see'. In short, not all that glitters is gold and, almost always, when 'answers flow' those sending the answers do not have our best interests at heart. It's a jungle out there, as they say - so, hopefully you'll be able to finish reading the Wave soon so you'll be able to see your experiences through the lens of that information, and discuss them on the forum.

 

[Eliza]

Hi Eliza, I think it will be very beneficial for you to finish reading the Wave Series. You'll find out about hyperdimensional realities and about how almost nothing is as it appears, or is as it is presented to us, especially by those we 'can't see'. In short, not all that glitters is gold and, almost always, when 'answers flow' those sending the answers do not have our best interests at heart. It's a jungle out there, as they say - so, hopefully you'll be able to finish reading the Wave soon so you'll be able to see your experiences through the lens of that information, and discuss them on the forum.

Thanks for the advice anart, I'll keep that in mind. I know that there are several beings and entities that are 'bad' (or bad from our perspective). And I've had some experiences with those types that are 'bad'. But I also had experiences from good beings and parts from my own soul and there is a big difference between those.
With most bad types there goes an alarmbell of within me. But with the good types (friends, guardians, parts of my own soul etc.) I just know deeply inside of me that those are thrustworthy. I know, everyone can wear a mask and look like the 'good guy'. But for those like Eliza I just know that they are real because they are also part of me and my life. Greys are also part of my life but not part of me. Can you see the difference in those?

 

[anart]

Thanks for the advice anart, I'll keep that in mind. I know that there are several beings and entities that are 'bad' (or bad from our perspective). And I've had some experiences with those types that are 'bad'. But I also had experiences from good beings and parts from my own soul and there is a big difference between those.
With most bad types there goes an alarmbell of within me. But with the good types (friends, guardians, parts of my own soul etc.) I just know deeply inside of me that those are thrustworthy. I know, everyone can wear a mask and look like the 'good guy'. But for those like Eliza I just know that they are real because they are also part of me and my life. Greys are also part of my life but not part of me. Can you see the difference in those?

Actually, until you've read the Wave in its entirety, you're not really going to know to what I'm referring, so the conversation is going to be a little bit limited. After you've read the Wave, though, it would be great to hear your thoughts on it. Let's just say that you're not currently seeing the whole picture - but that's okay - because learning is fun!!!

 

[Eliza]

Ok, so be it then.
I let you know when I have finished reading the wave and the other recommend sources.
Can we please then stay ontopic now , back to the drawing. :)

 

[ana]

Ok, so be it then.
I let you know when I have finished reading the wave and the other recommend sources.
Can we please then stay ontopic now , back to the drawing. :)

Hi Eliza, Wellcome to the forum,

It is obvious you draw very well and as Anart told you it is also obvious there is a lack of knowledge, also on what this forum is about.
An example is the sentence you wrote above where you seem to not to give importance to what Anart advice you even asking her to focus on your drawing as the only important think here.

Please consider that, every time you start a topic, no matter on what , you’ll receive inputs from members of the forum telling you what do they see, wich is an essential tool for our learning and growing here.

Just Take a time to see the dynamics and maybe you will see there is a lack of external consideration on your post above.

http://glossary.cassiopaea.com/glossary.php?id=40&lsel=E

External and Internal Considering

In 4th Way parlance, this is the practice of taking others into account when acting. External considering involves making a realistic evaluation of another's situation and acting in ways which take this into account in a positive sense.

External considering is however not the same thing as being socially polite or considerate, although it may be expressed in this manner.
The key concept is to be aware of and to adapt oneself to the level of being and knowledge of others. Thus, external considering involves for example not talking about things which would simply offend others' beliefs or simply not be understood. External considering relates to an idea of general good will towards the environment, then in the sense of letting the environment be as it wishes and responding to its requests in a manner that honors its right to be as it will.
External considering is rooted in objective awareness of the environment. Its opposite, internal considering, is rooted in attachment to a subjective inner state, to one's own comfort of preconceptions or desires.
External and internal considering are not always outwardly distinguishable, although inwardly they are fundamentally different. One may for example be socially pleasing purely in order to reinforce one's own idea of oneself as a 'good person.' This is internal considering and preoccupation about how others/the self perceive the self.
In some cases, external considering may involve withholding information that is seen as inappropriate, dangerous or simply unlikely to be well received. An internally considering person may also do this, but then again the motive is different.

We cannot codify with external criteria which action constitutes which kind of considering. The concepts are related to service to others vs service to self and to objectivity vs subjectivity. Usually the term considering is applied in the context of personal interactions.

Only through having external considering can one serve others. This requires responsiveness and a sense of objectivity and awareness of what is right action for the given situation. Serving in the sense of merely carrying out commands is not external considering.

Internal considering can be likened to man's inner predator. It feeds itself by engaging in subjective fantasies where it thinks it is other than it is. It will also seek to gain external confirmation for its distorted self-image by manipulating others to confirm it in its views. Man may go to much trouble to make an impression, simply in order to have his own illusory, internally considered self-image reflected back to himself from others. All success in such manipulation feeds the predator and confirms it in its internal considering and accordingly removes the center of gravity of man's inner life away from objectivity. Internal considering is in very concrete terms man's natural enemy who seeks to prevent man from being himself. The predator will at all times prefer an illusion of virtue to the naked truth about itself. Still, it is not useful to morally judge or condemn the predator, just like it is useless to condemn a cat for eating mice. Still, one must disengage from identifying with this predator. Claiming to Work while engaging in internal considering is a contradiction in terms. The forms of internal considering can however be extremely subtle and one cannot always detect them, thus constant vigilance is required. The predator of internal considering may well claim to engage in merciless self-observation, to aspire to consciousness and being and any other virtues and even trick itself to believe it is progressing towards these goals while all the while only feeding its vanity and desire for recognition.

Exterior man needs the support of a group in order to help him detect the many tricky ways in which internal considering inserts itself in his perception and actions.

 

[Psalehesost]

It is obvious you draw very well and as Anart told you it is also obvious there is a lack of knowledge, also on what this forum is about.
An example is the sentence you wrote above where you seem to not to give importance to what Anart advice you even asking her to focus on your drawing as the only important think here.

[...]

Just Take a time to see the dynamics and maybe you will see there is a lack of external consideration on your post above.

Actually, I think your post to Eliza shows a bit of a lack of external considering. She is reading and did note that she'd get back on it when she's read it, and as anart said, "the conversation is going to be a little bit limited" until she has anyway, as there is little more to say on that subject given the present lack of information in common.

The last line of Eliza's response was somewhat dismissive, but given that - as anart noted - she's "not currently seeing the whole picture", it is more or less to be expected that she won't fully see the point, not yet fully knowing our perspective here. As such, I think it would be externally considerate to give her a bit of a break for now.

As for the rest of the information you posted, I think it's good to illustrate the dynamics aimed for at this forum. And the very quote you posted, to my understanding, suggests what I concluded above.

 

[ana]

It is obvious you draw very well and as Anart told you it is also obvious there is a lack of knowledge, also on what this forum is about.
An example is the sentence you wrote above where you seem to not to give importance to what Anart advice you even asking her to focus on your drawing as the only important think here.

[...]

Just Take a time to see the dynamics and maybe you will see there is a lack of external consideration on your post above.

Actually, I think your post to Eliza shows a bit of a lack of external considering. She is reading and did note that she'd get back on it when she's read it, and as anart said, "the conversation is going to be a little bit limited" until she has anyway, as there is little more to say on that subject given the present lack of information in common.

The last line of Eliza's response was somewhat dismissive, but given that - as anart noted - she's "not currently seeing the whole picture", it is more or less to be expected that she won't fully see the point, not yet fully knowing our perspective here. As such, I think it would be externally considerate to give her a bit of a break for now.

The last Eliza sentence is what caught my attention, as you say it sounds dismissive and that's why even if She states She is going to read the material (wich of course is the main thing), I found it interesting to show her what I was seeing.

As for the rest of the information you posted, I think it's good to illustrate the dynamics aimed for at this forum. And the very quote you posted, to my understanding, suggests what I concluded above.

Ok, thank you