Fat for my dogs?

loreta

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I was wondering if it is good to give fat to my dogs. I eat myself fat, (I am following the diet with low carbs) and I ask myself if I can give some rests of fat to my animals. I really don't know if it is dangerous for them. Does anyone can tell me? I would appreciate if someone can help me in this subject.

Thank you.
 
If you don't feed carbs ( ie dry food) it shouldn't be dangerous, in fact it is needed. Same like with us - the best if you can afford fat from grass fed animals.
In nature dogs get most of their energy from fat and very little carbs.

There is some evidence dogs also benefit from coconut oil, I used it successfuly in the treatment of persistent skin and ear conditions in both dogs and cats.
 
I would say definitely yes! I've been feeding my dog lots of meat, lightly cooked and soaked in lard for the past year. I also ask the butcher for fat that gets thrown away and he loves this. He now often leaves some fat behind in the bowl (and I don't give him big dinners), i.e. he eats what he needs whereas before he would probably eat more than he eats now due to food anxiety (when he was on the typical dry food diet). I also had a German Shepherd who had lost a lot of weight- and I was sure it was from his diet. When I switched him over to meat and fat he regained all 10 kilos. Unfortunately, he's back living with my ex who thinks that fat causes heart attacks so she's put him back on the dry food diet. He hasn't lost weight thankfully but now I'm worried that he'll have a heart attack :(
You can find a lot of different arguments on the internet in favour of and against it. Some people recommend raw meat, others also recommend vegetables (some, even raw!). I think high fat/protein as in plenty of meat is natural for dogs and they're known to be even less sugar tolerant than humans so the grain thing seems just ridiculous. Also, since these dry foods contain vegetable oils and they are prepared at very high temperatures, you're looking at your dog ingesting very toxic denatured oils. Which sounds more natural or healthy? :)
 
Thank you!
The fact is that I feed them with half dry food :-[ and half meat, when I can. I will ask my butcher for something, he is very gentle. When I can I give them what I can: eggs, sardines, meat, liver, some vegetables.... I will try to switch to just good food, like us.

Thank you for your counsels. My dogs also thank you! ;D
 
I also feed my pooch half dry and half meat (even though he hardly touches dry food) and he loves lard. I'll scoop a bit when I'm cooking with it and give it to him and he gobbles it right up. He body seems to respond well to it and it doesn't affect his stool any from what I can see. I'd have to agree with the others here and say heck yeah its good for them! :lol:
 
I've been putting either a small amount of melted lard or some fish oil in my cat's wet food. He seems to like it and he sheds way less than he used to.
 
Thanks, thanks, thanks! This is a good help. That gives me ideas and perseverance to take care of the food of my little ones. I appreciate. :)
 
Thanks, thanks, thanks! This is a good help. That gives me ideas and perseverance to take care of the food of my little ones. I appreciate.
Second that, since i've took a puppy from the dog shelter a few days ago, i was also thinking what would be the safest food for him...So far, i gave him lightly cooked liver, ground meat and chicken skin with fat, but he prefers raw meat. :)
He obviously knows what's best for him! It would be illogical feeding him on briquettes loaded with grains and preservatives! :thdown:
 
We have a small dog,14+ years old. She was having a hard time getting up from her bed, walking and just moving around in general. I thought the food I was giving her was A+, supplemented with chicken, beef, fat. But I found out that dogs, just like people don`t need carbs in their diet. I found a great raw food diet that is frozen in patties ready to go when thawed. In the wild, dogs need the" whole" animal of what they consume. They get crude protein, crude fat and crude fiber. Well since we`ve been feeding her the raw food diet, she`s like a new dog. She`s full of energy and has no issues getting around! It`s amazing to watch the transformation after thinking she was on her way out...
 
A friend of mine has a Caucasian shepherd dog. The dog is something 7-8 months old and recently she (dog) started to suffer severe skin problems. My friend suspects her diet is the cause, she ate mostly chicken heads and legs from factory chickens loaded with antibiotics and hormones. I believe he understood that it was a bad diet but he couldn't afford meat everyday for her.
Few days ago I was buying beef fat at local market and proposed it to my friend for his dog because it is extremely cheap and had to be ok for dogs if it is ok for humans. Being a "theoretic" kind of person he reads scientific stuff about problems he tries to solve usually, he said: "Dogs don't eat fat. They eat only meat", and rejected my proposition.
I know that young animal like dog needs a lot of protein as building blocks for his body when he rapidly develops. So I believe the 30/70 for protein/fat for grownup humans wouldn't work here. Some scientific background on this topic would come in handy...
 
Both my dogs get dry and meat like chicken, liver lamb or beef combo's daily. Once a week or so they also get the fat from the cow feet I use for my bone broth. I know this is the only new addition for the past 4 months or so, and the results are marvelous.

Lacey is a 15 yr. old Bichon Frise that has never been to the vet except for shots. She was slowing down or so it appeared, until the entrance of L'Ouija, a Maltese from a probable puppy mill. That's another story, however, she got a big dose of new life from this new arrival, but the biggest change in both that I see is the fat. She outrun L'Ouija in a soccar field the other day, and I couldn't believe my eyes. No one believes shes actually 15. They just had the fat the night before. It is cooked for more than 24 hrs, and served during the week in cut up squares. All I have to say is either "F-A-T", or "D-U-C-K", which is their favorites, they come running. Well at least Lacey does, since shes gotten deaf. That and the cataracts are next.

Also the food, which is a bit pricey, but 25% fat is a dry food called Annamaet. They also eat Orijens and the change really started when I switched to these dry, organic food with chelated minerals and high fat content. They also do not have many snacks, except for sweet potato and dried duck, as you know already. The skin on Lacey that had warts are gone. L'Ouija does gently nibble them away, but I've noticed the redness and irritation is gone. Bone broth itself they also get mixed in with the dry food. It is life-changing for all of us.
 
It is also important to note that a dog should be eating raw meat. It is simply what is naturally available to them.

Include organs in there too, especially liver, for vitamins, minerals and other very important substances, marrow bones also (mine goes cazy for that).
 
aimarok said:
Some scientific background on this topic would come in handy...

Dogs should not be feed meat only diet , and should not be fed too much pure fat either. Fatty off cuts from the butcher are fine, as well as the occasional dollop of butter or non smoked bacon, but giving pure lard can cause digestive issues.

Unfortunately it is very hard to find any unbiased scientific research about dogs nutritional needs as the commercial food producers have veterinary science in their grip for last 60 years or so. Especially now that the dogma about dogs being sensitive to animal protein is so firmly engrained in many veterinarian's belief system. Same as with cholesterol myth is with many medical doctors.

The rule of a thumb is to observe wild canids dietary habits. Most of the fat is acquired from the belly and from gnawing on marrow bones and joints. The source of carbs are intestines with semi-digested vegetable content. When green tripe cannot be fed due to non availability some vegetables should be fed.

Here is the perfect example how perverse the "science of dog food" has become, now we are supposed to feed the dogs on feathers?!
__http://www.forbes.com/sites/marcbabej/2013/05/29/dog-food-made-from-feathers-a-win-win-for-royal-canin/
 
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