Fat Tax imposed in Denmark

Miss.K

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A friend of mine just called and told me that a "Fat Tax" has been imposed in Denmark, meaning all foods with saturated fat will be more expensive. The excuse being that it is for the health of the people.

I don't have the time to search for articles on it now, and I don't know if SOTT team is already aware of this, just thought it might be worth an article so I'd mention it.
 
I 've been meaning to mention this . It went into effect by july and is taxed 4 euro pr kilo of saturated fat. I haven't seen any press on it after or on it's implementation, the most recent ones are from febuary that I could find, most very critical of it unless of course reported by MSM. Here's a typical one of those from the scientific community.

_http://videnskab.dk/krop-sundhed/fedtskat-undermineret-af-ny-forskning [through google translate with some edits]
Fat Tax undermined by new research

Denmark's new fat tax may against the intent, end up making people more sick of unhealthy food. Such is the warning, after the world's leading researchers under Danish leadership have taken a closer look at the latest knowledge on foods with saturated fat.
From 1 July, all Danes pay an extra tax each time they buy butter, meat, deli meats or other foods with saturated fat. The idea of ​​the government is that the so-called fat tax include to get people to eat healthier and leaner food.

But the whole concept rests on a foundation that crumbles under the weight of new research from an international team of the world's most renowned scientists in nutrition.

The group is headed by Professor, DMSc. Arne Astrup from Copenhagen University. It has just published an article in the online version of the world's finest journal in the field, American Journal of Clinical Nutrition.

"A bomb under the fat tax '

Researchers have examined the world's 30 largest surveys to identify our knowledge of saturated fat - and the conclusions are clear:

Firstly, we have no idea whether saturated fat in itself trigger diseases.

Secondly, people are only healthier if saturated fat is replaced with whole grains or polyunsaturated fatty acids from such. plant oils or fish.

If however we are eating more carbohydrates from such. fiber-reduced pasta or bread, the opposite happens: the risk of cardiovascular disease in the population increases.

"It is perhaps the most disturbing in the investigation and in relation to the fat tax is also a bit of a bomb," says Arne Astrup, a professor of nutrition at the Department of Human Nutrition at the University of Copenhagen.

'Fat Tax distinguishes not between non-saturated fat, so what are people going to eat instead, the gods know. One can fear that they will eat more of what they eat in advance, namely what we do not want to eat: white rice or white bread. In this way, they risk becoming more unhealthy, and we risk to experience an increase in cardiovascular disease, "notes Arne Astrup, who is lead author of the scientific article.

Saturated fats can be part of a healthy diet

Scientists stresses in the article that a food is not unhealthy just because it contains saturated fat. Arne Astrup mentions as examples of dark chocolate and cheese.

The dark chocolate is the saturated fat stearic acid, which is far from being unhealthy, and because of other nutrients chocolate actually looks rather like being able to reduce blood pressure, blood cholesterol and lower the risk of diabetes and cardiovascular diseases.

Cheese has as much protein and calcium, that it "has the opposite effect on blood cholesterol levels, than would be expected solely from the content of saturated fat." Therefore, the cheese actually prevent heart disease, although it has a high content of saturated fat, says Arne Astrup.

A third example is lean meat, which admittedly contains saturated fat, but unsaturated fats and lots of protein, which we need to flourish.

"These examples show that we must be careful in assessing nutrients alone and instead to look at all the food to find out whether it is healthy or not," says Arne Astrup.
A little saturated fat can be healthy in itself

The new knowledge goes in opposite direction of the government bill for a new fat tax. This will only frame foods because of their saturated fat.

The bill is based on an outdated belief that saturated fat increases the risk of cardiovascular disease, which in its time was both Prevention Commission and World Health Organization to recommend a struggle against saturated fat.

The widespread misconception, according to leading experts arisen because studies from before the millennium included artificially produced trans fatty acids in the category 'saturated fat'.

Deducting trans fats out, stands back, that we no longer recognize the dangers of saturated fat actually is and it is pure speculation to assume that it will make us healthier to drop saturated fat.

"Some of the researchers in the group indicate that they even need saturated fat, and that it would be unhealthy to lower the intake too much. It is a very relevant discussion, and it illustrates that it is the restriction of saturated fat, which should have the greatest nutritional awareness, "believes Arne Astrup.

The professor adds that scientists, however, insist that it makes us healthier to replace some of the saturated fat with polyunsaturated fat. Specifically: to shift from butter to canola oil, which it is natural to do so.
Researchers agree, for the first time

Behind the article stands a group of leading researchers in nutrition.

It is unique in that it covers both researchers who have been heat advocates warn against saturated fat, and researchers who think warnings have been exaggerated.

"When we brought them together at a symposium in Copenhagen last year, it was funny to see that there was not even very little difference, and it was surprisingly easy to lay the foundations for the first consensual article in this area in the last 10 years '.

"It is important to emphasize that there is total agreement on the messages, and when the final corrections were made in December, the information is also super fresh. And now it is out in the world's best food magazine, everyone can enjoy it, "says Arne Astrup.

Prestigious food project looks great on saturated fat
Quote You can not figure out how food affects cardiovascular disease solely on their content of saturated fat because they may contain other nutrients that affect the risk of heart disease
- Quote from the scientific article (doi: 10.3945/ajcn.110.004622)

Arne Astrup took the initiative to bring together leading researchers at the symposium - an academic get-together - because a host of new studies had made him unsure about how he should deal with the saturated fat in the project OPUS.

OPUS aims to develop healthy, Nordic food to the Danes and has 100 million from Nordea Fund in the back.

Researchers in OPUS has now decided to behave a little more relaxed in saturated fat and not focus solely on the part when the food also seems to be healthy, then basically doing the exact opposite of the government.

"We look instead at the entire food and it is also the trend in science. It should also begin to do when making recommendations to the population. It is far more simple and logical to relate to a lot of cheese or a whole piece of meat instead of speculating over thousands of nutrients and vitamins that we even are uncertain about the effect of when you eat them separately, "believes Arne Astrup.

According to the government's own estimates, fat taxes bring the state about 1.5 billion dollars a year.
Taxation: Choose healthy food!

Taxation Troels Lund Poulsen (V) still believe that the new law is sensible knitted together.

The Minister points out that some foods are not covered by the Act, either because they fall under the de minimis threshold - for example. dairy products like skimmed milk, A 38 and lean meat like turkey - or because they are not covered by the Act. For example. fruit, vegetables, grains, eggs and fish.

'Fat tax provides no incentive to eat jam awfully, because why would anyone choose them when you can instead make good and healthy choices? "

"It will still be possible to make a healthy lunch for their children without paying the fat tax, if, for example. making a lunch box with fish products, eggs, turkey cold cuts, cucumber, tomato and fruit. Should pâté be high on the wish list, then there is probably nothing wrong that the tax incentive is to choose the lean version?, "Writes Troels Lund Poulsen in an email to Videnskab.dk.

According to the government's own estimates, fat taxes bring the state about 1.5 billion kroner a year.

If Sott wants another angle or additional information I'd be happy to look for it.
 
I read the title to this thread, and my first thought was "How are they going to weigh everybody?" :-[
 
Guardian said:
I read the title to this thread, and my first thought was "How are they going to weigh everybody?" :-[
:rotfl:

In colder climates like Denmark, the body needs those fat calories to get through the cold months, I don't think that tax is going to stay long.
 
Guardian said:
I read the title to this thread, and my first thought was "How are they going to weigh everybody?" :-[


_http://www.northbynorthwestern.com/2008/02/6877/why-you-should-care-about-mississippis-fat-people/

Well in MS, USA they weren't going to weigh anyone, just ban you from restaurants and public eateries based on subjective judgement of your appearance by servers or managers.

According the listed article, 96% of MS, is obese or overweight. So according the proposed bill, I guess there would be nowhere left to eat out, as all such places would be out of business. (Although MS does have a quite "large" :halo: population, I wouldn't say 96% are overweight)
 
:shock:

But Read never expected the bill to be taken seriously. He proposed it only to draw attention to what he called Mississippi’s biggest problem. Thirty percent of the state’s citizens are obese, ironically including Read himself, and 66 percent are overweight.
 
Thanks Parralel for taking the time to find something on it.

Guardian said:
I read the title to this thread, and my first thought was "How are they going to weigh everybody?" :-[

hehehe

Gimpy said:
In colder climates like Denmark, the body needs those fat calories to get through the cold months, I don't think that tax is going to stay long.

I suspect that fat is becoming the new smoking, and that Denmark is just one of the first countries to impose extra fat tax. I still don't have time to find stuff on it, but skimming results when googling "fat tax" it seems that Hungary is on it too, and UK is thinking about it.

Damn! just as one was happy that the fatty meat is cheaper than the lean meat.
 
Well, there are some edits to what I said above.

Tax implemententation has been moved to saturday, 1 oct. And tax per kilo is app. 2 euro.
The story is still news, perhaps not big news but yet another pathologic move on the malnutrition of the people.


Unpopular fat tax adopted by a large majority in parliament

All parties except the Liberal Alliance and the Alliance voted yes to the fat tax.

It did not matter that some of the Denmarks largest business associations with leading nutrition scientists and experts in European law criticized the government's tax on saturated fats to pieces over a whole year. It writes Ing.dk.

Last week the tax was adopted by a massive majority in parliament. Only the Liberal Alliance voted against, while Alliance abstained. All other parties pressed the yes button to the proposal to raise 1.4 billion kroner annually to the Treasury.

With the adoption will be from 1 October will be subject to 16 kroner [app. 2 euro] in state tax on each kilogram of saturated fats in the foods that Danes pay in shopping baskets.

Originally the government had set for the same tax on all meat products from the same animal. Fatty pork would get the same tax as lean pork tenderloin. As one of the last change was the slaughterhouses allowed to distinguish between the fat content of different products, but it's still not a requirement.

Butcher shop death

In January, Torsten Buhl the director of the Danish Butcher Masters told Maskinblladet.dk that the new fat tax could stifle small butcher shops and cheese shops, because they can no longer compete with supermarkets.

- It is supposed that the charge must propagate down the chain to consumers. And the supermarkets do have a wide range of goods they may distribute price rises beyond. Butcher shops and cheese dealers have largely only goods that are affected by tax, so there is nothing to distribute the price increase on. Therefore it becomes very difficult to compete with supermarkets. It we look at with great concern, he said to Maskinbladet.dk.
from : http://www.maskinbladet.dk/artikel/upopulaer-fedtafgift-vedtaget-med-stort-flertal-i-folketinget
Posted by: MBK
 
Unbelievable. Danes pay enough taxes as it is, and now they are supposed to pay more unless they want to destroy their own health as well? Geez...

Our Danish members should share links on FB or wherever about how saturated fat is GOOD!
 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/8796522/Denmark-taxes-fatty-products.html

The move may increase pressure for a similar tax in the UK, which suffers from the highest levels of obesity in Europe.

Starting from this Saturday, Danes will pay an extra 30p on each pack of butter, 8p on a pack of crisps, and an extra 13p on a pound of mince, as a result of the tax.

The tax is expected to raise about 2.2bn Danish Krone (£140m), and cut consumption of saturated fat by close to 10pc, and butter consumption by 15pc.

"It's the first ever fat-tax," said Mike Rayner, Director of Oxford University's Health Promotion Research Group, who has long campaigned for taxes on unhealthy foods.

"It's very interesting. We haven't had any practical examples before. Now we will be able to see the effects for real." The tax will be levied at 2.5 per Kg of saturated fat and will be levied at the point of sale from wholesalers to retailers.

Less than 10pc of Danes are clinically obese, putting them slightly below the European average.

But researchers at Denmark's Institute for Food and Economic estimate that close to 4pc of the country's premature deaths are a result of excess consumption of saturated fats.

For Britain, where more than 20pc of the population is obese, the number will be considerably higher.

A 2007 study by Mr Rayner's group concluded that a combination of taxes on healthy foods and tax breaks on fruit and vegetables could save 3,200 lives a year in the UK.

Health Minister Andrew Lansley has up until now resisted calls for taxes on unhealthy foods, but Mr Rayner said they were the only credible way to combat Britain's obesity problem.

"I think we're going to have them in Britain whether Mr Lansley wants them or not, because the obesity crisis in the UK is such that we need to take more action.
I think this pile of festering propaganda speaks for itself. Laura is right, it seems that it's the diet and health research on this site that scares the PTB more than anything, because it's something people can practically do for themselves to dramatically and pretty much immediately improve their lives. The psychopathy research is only threatening in potential, which they can fight by creating more tyrannical laws. The diet and health info doesn't require a massive grass roots mobilization before things change, it is applicable immediately by each individual in their own life to great effect, and that's apparently terrifying to them.

On the bright side, there's a pretty healthy discussion about this article on Reddit:
http://www.reddit.com/r/worldnews/comments/kvahl/denmark_taxes_fatty_products_denmark_is_to_impose/

So it seems that "popular knowledge" is starting to catch on, and it is a sight for sore eyes to see such discussions on sites other than this forum!
 
Gimpy said:
Guardian said:
I read the title to this thread, and my first thought was "How are they going to weigh everybody?" :-[
:rotfl:

In colder climates like Denmark, the body needs those fat calories to get through the cold months, I don't think that tax is going to stay long.

Gimpy you right from the body perspective :) but from the Gov. If they put something like this thru the back door without make it big in the mainstream media. It will remain, this is their daily bread. Even it is a big lie like the CO2.
 
:) We are discussing allready this same topic here http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,24948.0.html
 
Kaigen said:
:) We are discussing allready this same topic here http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,24948.0.html

The two threads have been merged.
 
Looks like the same thing is happening in Sweden. A professor from Karolinska Institutet said today in a Swedish newspaper that the reason we should have tax on saturated fat is because vegetables and fruit have gotten more expensive over the last 30 years, while candy and sweets have become cheaper. Does that make ANY sense at all? :huh:

At least in Sweden we have Dr. Annika Dahlquist who supports the low-carb, high-fat diet. But she seems to think they're imposing the tax because they haven't understood how good it is to eat meat...

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/economy/economy-lab/daily-mix/scandinavians-stare-down-fat-tax/article2008044/
 

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