finding employment

[pluto123]

Hello,

im just wondering if anyone knows how i may be able to find some employment so i can live in this world?
i have not finished school. ive had interviews but dont get hired and i tried going back to jobs i used to have but they dont hire or say everything is slow. ive tried using feng shui and still try. i had gotten interviews after the feng shui but its always something that will just crumble under my feet or i just will never get hired.
i still live with my parents but they are kinda not right in the head.
does anyone who live in new york know of some work i can do?

 

[no-mans-land]

Well, according to your intro:

http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,36663.msg537003.html#msg537003

hello everyone,
just to introduce myself.

im 24 in live in new york.
i follow some spiritual paths to help better myself and to make life easier.
im looking to be part of a community if it is right.

It looks like the answer will be somewhat of a disappointment. To look for ways to make life easier won't get you a job, nor will it help you to learn and grow.

If you live in New York, then wheres the problem? In such a big city, there are almost endless opportunities to get a job. To have skills isn't really the main point, rather it's the drive or will and how you act.

You really really want a job? Step outside, take a walk, speak to people, show that you really want. Don't restrict your expectations to a tiny and narrow field of profession and be confident that you can do much more than you think you can.

Of course, its not easy, its not comfortable. You have to expose yourself and you have to struggle with all sorts of fears. But believe me, people can see if someone is able and willing to walk on its own feet and show the will to do and learn. This is such a valuable virtue (and so rare), that you will have a job in no time. There are challenges waiting around every corner.

 

[lilyalic]

Maybe even searching round on this forum and topics that are completely irrelevant to your question right now would benefit you. Especially since your introduction implies you're looking for a "path" to follow.

From the little information you gave about your parents not seeming 'quite right' it would be useful to look into that, for example do a little reading along the lines of psychology.. there are plenty of books suggested. http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,33092.0.html

 

[pluto123]

Well, according to your intro:

http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,36663.msg537003.html#msg537003

hello everyone,
just to introduce myself.

im 24 in live in new york.
i follow some spiritual paths to help better myself and to make life easier.
im looking to be part of a community if it is right.

It looks like the answer will be somewhat of a disappointment. To look for ways to make life easier won't get you a job, nor will it help you to learn and grow.

If you live in New York, then wheres the problem? In such a big city, there are almost endless opportunities to get a job. To have skills isn't really the main point, rather it's the drive or will and how you act.

You really really want a job? Step outside, take a walk, speak to people, show that you really want. Don't restrict your expectations to a tiny and narrow field of profession and be confident that you can do much more than you think you can.

Of course, its not easy, its not comfortable. You have to expose yourself and you have to struggle with all sorts of fears. But believe me, people can see if someone is able and willing to walk on its own feet and show the will to do and learn. This is such a valuable virtue (and so rare), that you will have a job in no time. There are challenges waiting around every corner.

Hi,
The reason I wrote to make life easier is because the spiritual path I follow which is yoga.
It helps with my health which was bad before, I had insomnia and get bad headaches.
Better health, easier life so I don't have to deal with getting sick and being tired from working if I had a job.
I don't live in the city. The city had to much pollution. You can smell it when you visit there.
I've done what you suggested.
I've applied to so many jobs. I just had an interview last week but they haven't called. And I called another place to see if I can get an interview and if they reviewed my application.
Can't get a job even dish washing.
I'm wondering if illegal immigration is one of the major problems.

 

[Teresa]

If you live in New York, then wheres the problem? In such a big city, there are almost endless opportunities to get a job. To have skills isn't really the main point, rather it's the drive or will and how you act.

You really really want a job? Step outside, take a walk, speak to people, show that you really want. Don't restrict your expectations to a tiny and narrow field of profession and be confident that you can do much more than you think you can.

Of course, its not easy, its not comfortable. You have to expose yourself and you have to struggle with all sorts of fears. But believe me, people can see if someone is able and willing to walk on its own feet and show the will to do and learn. This is such a valuable virtue (and so rare), that you will have a job in no time. There are challenges waiting around every corner.

The Problem no-mans-land, is that the United States is no longer the land of opportunity even if you live in a large city. It's very hard to find gainful employment these days.

Pluto123, have you tried the NY State dept of labor? My own state has workshops, and advice for free which has been a big help to me.

 

[no-mans-land]

Well, according to your intro:

http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,36663.msg537003.html#msg537003

hello everyone,
just to introduce myself.

im 24 in live in new york.
i follow some spiritual paths to help better myself and to make life easier.
im looking to be part of a community if it is right.

It looks like the answer will be somewhat of a disappointment. To look for ways to make life easier won't get you a job, nor will it help you to learn and grow.

If you live in New York, then wheres the problem? In such a big city, there are almost endless opportunities to get a job. To have skills isn't really the main point, rather it's the drive or will and how you act.

You really really want a job? Step outside, take a walk, speak to people, show that you really want. Don't restrict your expectations to a tiny and narrow field of profession and be confident that you can do much more than you think you can.

Of course, its not easy, its not comfortable. You have to expose yourself and you have to struggle with all sorts of fears. But believe me, people can see if someone is able and willing to walk on its own feet and show the will to do and learn. This is such a valuable virtue (and so rare), that you will have a job in no time. There are challenges waiting around every corner.

Hi,
The reason I wrote to make life easier is because the spiritual path I follow which is yoga.
It helps with my health which was bad before, I had insomnia and get bad headaches.
Better health, easier life so I don't have to deal with getting sick and being tired from working if I had a job.
I don't live in the city. The city had to much pollution. You can smell it when you visit there.
I've done what you suggested.
I've applied to so many jobs. I just had an interview last week but they haven't called. And I called another place to see if I can get an interview and if they reviewed my application.
Can't get a job even dish washing.
I'm wondering if illegal immigration is one of the major problems.

Ahh, OK, thank you for the clarification. I was in New York some years ago and your right, this city smells a bit. ;)

While I don't know who you are and where you coming from, what kind of health issues and what kind of profession you have, there is one thing I came across many times. And maybe you already know it.

If someone gets rejected again and again, he starts to feel little and not worthy of anything and that attitude will be reflected in every word he speak and every move he make. Its obvious to others, but unfortunately not to the self. Its a real vicious cycle because the more one gets rejected, the more the own personality starts to act on the fear to get rejected again, what causes insecurity, what leads to changes in behaviour that reflects the insecurity what makes it more likely to be rejected, especially in job applications.

The words change and suddenly, the main phrase become "I can't".

The Problem no-mans-land, is that the United States is no longer the land of opportunity even if you live in a large city. It's very hard to find gainful employment these days.

See, these words can hide well. "I can't because ... ". Of course its not easy, the world at large is on its way down the tubes, not only in the US.

pluto 123, maybe its a good advice from lilyalic to stick around here awhile and check out the content, especially the Psychology & Cognitive Science section.

 

[truth seeker]

Not sure how true this is, but I was recently reading about how it may be easier to gain employment if one is recommended for a job. Have you asked any people you know if there are any openings? Also, can your school recommend you for anything? Perhaps lessening the competition may help, somewhat.

 

[Lilou]

[quote author= Pluto]
I'm wondering if illegal immigration is one of the major problems. [/quote]


Are you saying you are an illegal immigrant or all the jobs are being given to illegals?

If you are having such a tough time finding any type of work, perhaps taking a hard look at why that could be will suss out an answer. Could it be appearance? Do you appear neat or sloppy? Do you have any previous work experience? Did you finish high school? Are you saying the "right" things during the interview? A little research on the Internet about how you should present yourself and how to answer questions may help.

Since you are being called for interviews, I'd look in that direction. Maybe you can improve your style. I actually had a class in high school on "how to interview" for jobs. So my advise is to read up on the "art of interviewing, it may help. Wishing you luck, Pluto. :)

 

[Teresa]

The Problem no-mans-land, is that the United States is no longer the land of opportunity even if you live in a large city. It's very hard to find gainful employment these days.

See, these words can hide well. "I can't because ... ". Of course its not easy, the world at large is on its way down the tubes, not only in the US.

Normally, I would agree that it can be used as an excuse but that's not currently the case, which is why I suggested looking into taking classes that will help pluto123 find a job. In my area there are literally thousands of applications per job postings and the applicants have to really step up their game just to get an interview. And I hate that it's called a game. Sadly, you are correct that it is a global phenomena.

 

[MusicMan]

Start your own business.
Become a shoe-shine boy.
There comes a point in time when a man needs to become a man and put away childish ideas.
If you have a positive attitude, and a smile for everybody, you can achieve anything you want in life. It takes effort on your part.
Let this be your mantra: "Yes, we can!"

 

[rrraven]

Hi Pluto, the advice given by truth seeker is most likly the best
most jobs are given out by word of mouth aka its not what you know ,its who you know

you could try wwoofing
--https://wwoofusa.org/ its not employment in the usual style but you get to eat organic ,learn how to feed yourself and others ,have a roof over your head and meet nice people

 

[Wu Wei Wu]

Start your own business.
Become a shoe-shine boy.
There comes a point in time when a man needs to become a man and put away childish ideas.
If you have a positive attitude, and a smile for everybody, you can achieve anything you want in life. It takes effort on your part.
Let this be your mantra: "Yes, we can!"

I second this suggestion. It's a hard path, but a great one. There's countless projects you could do, most requiring little start up. Learn how to socialize, have good manners, and be willing to improve other peoples day. Then get out there and provide a service. I don't know if people get shoe shining anymore but if they do, go for it.

You'll learn a lot and you'll come out of it a better person. Also, people love to work with those who improve their lives. If you're a great shoe shine boy, and you make people happy, I guarantee someone will come around and offer you a job. Life is short, and people want to spend their time with those whose presence they enjoy.

That's what I'd do if I was a savvy young adult in New York, the de facto capitol of the world. You couldn't have asked for a better market.

 

[RedFox]

Not sure how true this is, but I was recently reading about how it may be easier to gain employment if one is recommended for a job. Have you asked any people you know if there are any openings? Also, can your school recommend you for anything? Perhaps lessening the competition may help, somewhat.

I second Truth Seekers advice on this. Even when job's where (apparently) plentiful, recommendations where one of the better ways to get a job. Ironically as well once you have a job it again seems easier to get another one.

The following may or may not be helpful if you do get an interview:
Want to succeed in the art of persuasion? AVOID eye contact: Locking glances can lower your chance of winning a person over
Narcissists Often Ace Job Interviews, Study Finds

That's not to say you should be narcissistic for interviews, but that there is something learn from how they portray themselves that can be used to your advantage.

For example, if you know you are competent at learning particular things, applying for a job that you know you can learn as you go but has asked for existing experience may be (given the context of struggling to get a job) an appropriate time to lie a little about 'existing experience' in order to get your foot through the door.
Better yet, study lots before the interview and then if you get the job study more so that you do genuinely have the knowledge they asked for.

A narcissist would just lie and fake it even when they had the job, rather than lying to get the job then acquiring the skills/experience you know you could learn if you had the job.

 

[liam1310]

Hi pluto123
was out of work for a long time myself so can understand what your going through it aint easy
what i done was grow herbs to sell at markets/carbooth sales and done a short business/innovation course
which helped a lot in regards to a reference from the college theres a lot of competition out there for jobs one has to stand out from the crowd
employers like to see people that have been active in improving themselves as Wu Wei wu pointed out and i agree with
redfox sometimes one has to bend the truth slightly its what i did to get a foot in the door
any way just thought id share my experience with ya
hope it all works out and you find a job
best of luck

 

[pluto123]

Hi Pluto, the advice given by truth seeker is most likly the best
most jobs are given out by word of mouth aka its not what you know ,its who you know

you could try wwoofing
--https://wwoofusa.org/ its not employment in the usual style but you get to eat organic ,learn how to feed yourself and others ,have a roof over your head and meet nice people

Hi,
I actually did apply to a room and board and they never responded.
I also looked into the wwoofusa without any luck. I should look again.
To top it all off I live with a psychopath that wants to literally kill everyone in this house and his girlfriend.
Just today he was running over his girlfriends clothes with his car and my mother found pictures of the girlfriend with the word dead on it. My father never goes to court to have him thrown out.
The police were called but they did not do anything.
And I can't leave because being able to get a job is difficult now more than ever.