Four Horsemen of the Apocalyse

[go2]

I have been reading of the food riots and humanities increasing desperation as the predators
of finance and the global food pathocracy turn up the heat. The Larouche organization does
journalism and political action on these topics. I hesitated to post this, as LaRouche is controversial,
however this is a mixed reality, and he seems one of the old men with memory, who are sorely lacking
in this third density jungle.

_http://www.larouchepub.com/hzl/2008/3516hunger_catastrophe.html

The World Bank has now published numbers which say that the price of wheat, as of February, has gone up over the last 36 months by 181% (!), and that food prices overall have gone up 83% (!) over the same period. If worldwide riots, a hunger catastrophe threatening a billion people's lives, and a collapse into a New Dark Age are to be stopped, then the criminal destruction of foodstuffs for biofuels must be immediately ended, and a worldwide crash program for doubling the production of food be put in place.
Because any reasonable person knows that it would be easy to solve the problem, provided that the political will can be mobilized, those in responsible positions will be measured by this yardstick. The world possesses all the technological and industrial capabilities to put into effect in a very short time, a global Marshall Plan, a global New Deal.

What Stands in the way?

The international financial oligarchy, which is presently about to enlarge the British Empire into a world empire, with a weakened America as a satrapy on the other side of the Atlantic, and an EU dictatorship, which threatens to rob the nations of continental Europe of any sovereignty, is absolutely determined to throw the world into a New Dark Age rather than agree to a rational reorganization of the world financial system, and a worldwide financial order.

Not a few of them see, to the contrary, in the Four Horsemen of the Apocalyse, an effective means of eliminating what they consider the current overpopulation. There are innummerable statements by Prince Philip, in which he has expressed his wish to solve the problem of this alleged overpopulation, including that he, for example, would like to be reincarnated as an "especially deadly virus."

_http://www.larouchepub.com/lar/2008/3516project_before_us.html

Thus, when we consider the risk that we might die tomorrow, what could the purpose of our continued existence be if that purpose is confined within the temporal bounds of our mortality? The greatest achievement enjoyed by any human being who is truly human, is the good outcome to which we contribute, but which is delivered long after our mortal existence has ceased.

It is the life lived for the sake of a mission which is in itself immortal, which is the properly defined location of the true self-interest of any truly human being.

Let our citizens, therefore, cease to be fools. The penalty for not finding our identity in the true distinction of the living human personality from the beasts, is a life which may not have been worth living, since there is no justification for it in the future. It is time for the citizens of our republic, and other nations, to grow up to a sense of true immortality.

 

[webglider]

. . .LaRouche is controversial,
however this is a mixed reality, and he seems one of the old men with memory, who are sorely lacking
in this third density jungle.

I have occasionally read articles written by LaRouche and they seem in alignment with much of what Sott is saying.

I tried searching for a thread on LaRouche but came up with very little.

Is he a victim of a disinformation campaign? What and who exactly is he?

 

[go2]

Hi webglider, I don't know a lot except reading his work. He was attacked by the government and locked up for getting Regan interested in ending the cold war. LaRouche has recently said that he is beginning to question the "species" of GWB and his court. That sounds a lot like psychopaths. I have found his work on economics and history of the imperial strategy for thousands of years as presented in Prometheus Bound by Aesculus to be illuminating. I just read this great tragedy and was surprised that Prometheus brought mankind THE GIFT OF PROPHECY, as well as fire. That sounds like Laura and the Cassiopeans. LaRouche's appears fearless and also seems to have a colinear network world wide. He maybe one of the conscious men who emerge in times of great peril, but that is just my observation based only on reading his public material on the websight--Executive Intelligence. I have understood economics from this work. It is a imperial control system plain and simple, there is four thousand trillion USD of economic transaction per year on the planet and fifty trillion USD of goods and services. The balance of finance is totally unnecessary to maintain humanity, in fact it is being used to commit genocide for the benefit of maintaining this imperial system of slavery. The world would be a world of abundence if those predators weren't stealing the creativity and energy of mankind for their benefit. LaRouche presents this case in footnoted historical detail in his free and published work. Someone on sott may know more.

 

[lord jim]

i'm actually pretty surprised there isn't more discussion of larouche on this forum. i just sort of stumbled upon some of his podcasts, which led me to searching his name online. up comes all sorts of flame/sniping pages (no surprise, he's pretty controversial). on one page in particular (_http://lyndonlarouche.org/quotes.htm) he's quoted at length about his " "anti-semitism" " (which i put in double quotes b/c i really don't know what to think), he makes mention of a portion of these individuals belonging to a different species.

upon searching "larouche separate species" i found a page from the website (_http://lyndonlarouche.org/fascism30.htm) entitled "war between the species". anyhow, you guys can read it. it seems to be indicating that psychopathic minority, due to a genetic mutation, has been altered into a new species...one that can not obtain hight spiritual truths.

obviously this is a pretty common theme on this forum...but i haven't seen too much about this specifically. though, i do realize that his name is mentioned in other capacities in these pages. i wonder where he got these impressions...

 

[EmeraldHope]

After reading this thread and doing some digging, I came across this article:
_http://www.campaigner-unbound.0catch.com/secrets_of_inner_elite/secrets_known_only_to_inner_elite.htm

He basically breaks down the elite in two opposing factions- Humanist, Plato (STO?) and Anti-Humanist ,Aristotle (STS?)

 

[EmeraldHope]

I am still reading Larouche . I found this interesting and thought I would share. He goes also into the A B differences.

_http://www.larouchepub.com/lar/2010/3721secret_economy.html

[

The Sarpian reductionist's misconception of human interrelations is to be traced, usually, from the mistaken view of social relations as expressed primarily in terms of the ontological misconceptions of naive sense-certainty. Already, the ancient Classical conception of dynamis, proffered a corrected view of this matter. Archytas' unique solution for the duplication of the cube, was an accomplishment praised highly by Eratosthenes later; it is coherent with the state of organization of the processes of the human mind in which the concept of dynamis, or also Leibniz's concept of dynamics coheres. Our inner, actual existence, lies not in a scheme consistent with sense-perception; it lies, ontologically, in the domain of physical-space-time for which the sense-perceptual conceptions of the imagined perceptual domain of a separated space, time, and matter, are relatively mere shadows.

Do not be surprised unnecessarily! The real universe is "located" as an expression of relativistic physical-space-time, rather than space, time, and matter. In accord with those facts, let us seek to clarify the apparent paradoxes seemingly posed, by defining two respectively distinct domains, A and B. "A" is the real universe, where the essential actions actually are generated; "B" is the domain of those shadows which are cast upon the seemingly real world of "B" by action located within the real domain of "A."

Again, we must say, that the primary functions of the human mind lie within what the founder of modern dynamics Gottfried Leibniz defined, ontologically, as "the infinitesimal" of his and Jean Bernouilli's calculus, as opposed to the hoax promoted by the frankly silly reductionist, almost positivist mathematician's argument which Liberal convert Leonhard Euler adopted from Abbé Antonio S. Conti's school of Sarpian deceits. Such is the point of clearest separation of a competent physicist, such as Riemann followers Max Planck, Harkins, Vernadsky, and Einstein, from the intrinsically incompetent mere mathematicians of the contemporary positivist schools. There is no actually physical principle adopted among the cults of the positivist school of the heathen followers of Paolo Sarpi and his intellectual offspring of today.[28]

As an aside form the reference above, he refers to psychopathy many times , saying they are a different species and incapable of higher spiritual truths. His most recent articles on Obama reference this, as well as many others throughout many articles of what I am reading

 

[Leo40]

LaRouche offers great insights into economics and its connection to imperialism.
He also understands that "someone" wants to destroy America.
Unfortunately he does not go deep enough.
He clearly sees all the symptoms:
Degeneration of society, intellectual poverty, education (lack of) etc.
He places the start of the decline at the Kennedy assassination.
One thing impressed me: he stresses the importance of Classical Art
( his term for genuine art ) as stimulus to awaken awareness of the
suprasensory in humans and creativity in general.
Also his general take on history is worth investigating.

 

[EmeraldHope]

LaRouche offers great insights into economics and its connection to imperialism.
He also understands that "someone" wants to destroy America.
Unfortunately he does not go deep enough.
He clearly sees all the symptoms:
Degeneration of society, intellectual poverty, education (lack of) etc.
He places the start of the decline at the Kennedy assassination.
One thing impressed me: he stresses the importance of Classical Art
( his term for genuine art ) as stimulus to awaken awareness of the
suprasensory in humans and creativity in general.
Also his general take on history is worth investigating.

Actually, he places the start of the fall of the decine of the USA with the Kenedy Assasination. He does not go into fourth density causes per se, but he does state the people who want to destroy humanity are related to all of the oligarchs, the subversion of sciences and art, and the corruption of their puppets through the above subversions. He says it is the actual stated goal of The British Monarchy to reduce world population 90%.

As I stated before ,he sees it as two different factions- creative, humanistic, which he attributes to the followers of Plato etc and the other faction of The Cult of Appollo and also Artistolte whom he sees as not capeable of real creativity and using plagerisms and hoaxes. He says they are the entropic force on humanity, and that they are anti-humanistic. The word Sanatic gets tossed in here and there too. Like I said he says they are a totlally different species than normal humanity. So he has gone back to approx 4th century AD in his piecing together.

 

[Be Like Water]

I have been watching larouche on and off for a few years, now.

Here is the australian wing, for those interested:

_http://www.cecaust.com.au/

Some very interesting articles about australian political history in that site.
The constant assertion the british empire is behind nearly all the worlds ills didn't quite sit right with me, but his organisation has done some deep research.

Here is another interesting video by the larouche youth about the destruction of NASA. If for nothing else go to 9:45 on this video to see a speech by JFK to the UN I never knew existed...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOOgE8n88mU

 

[Jeremy F Kreuz]

Dennis King, american journalist who wrote a book about Lyndon Larouche: Lyndon Larouche and the new American Fascism.

From Publishers Weekly
A Trotskyist in the 1940s, four-time presidential candidate, head of the National Democratic Policy Committee, right-wing extremist Lyndon LaRouche was recently convicted on fraud and conspiracy charges. King, a journalist who has unveiled the workings of the LaRouche cult almost singlehandedly over the years, here produces a courageous, hard-hitting expose. The LaRouchians raised over $200 million in loans and donations from the public, despite what the author describes as the sect's "classic fascist" ideology, anti-Semitism, brain-washing, smear tactics and fanatical support of the Star Wars defense system and military build-up. According to King, LaRouche's eccentric posturing (he claimed the Queen of England was a drug pusher and branded Henry Kissinger a communist agent) was useful cover--a pose to distract the media while LaRouche forged bonds with the Reagan administration, the CIA, the National Security Council, the Ku Klux Klan and other white-supremacist groups, Teamster bosses and crime lords, among others. King charges that the major media looked the other way, adopting a "see-no-evil" policy that allowed LaRouche to flourish.
Copyright 1989 Reed Business Information, Inc.

From Library Journal
In this portrait of LaRouche and his followers, journalist King provides a case study of the development of a radical movement. He discusses LaRouche's childhood, which helped to shape LaRouche's particular world view, as well as LaRouche's strange odyssey from left-wing Marxist to right-wing leader of the reactionary National Democratic Policy Committee. King examines the bizarre coalitions--the Ku Klux Klan and black civil rights groups, for example--that LaRouche has managed to form and galvanize into political action. LaRouche has also managed to maintain ties to such disparate figures as Manuel Noriega and Teamsters' boss Jackie Presser. This is a riveting narrative about a man who would say or do anything to gain personal power and who seems to have used his blatant anti-Semitism to successfully entice followers.
- Frank Kessler, Missouri Western State Coll., St. Joseph
Copyright 1989 Reed Business Information, Inc.

I have not read the book but if the author can back this up with facts this sounds pretty damaging. Dennis King past though has some dubious links and it could be a attack on Larouche.

quotes from worldIQ

Dennis King is an American journalist and author. He has written two books, Lyndon LaRouche and the New American Fascism and Get the Facts on Anyone, which is listed as a resource in The Reporter's Handbook, published by Investigative Reporters and Editors. [1] (http://www.ire.org) For ten years King was a member of the Progressive Labor Party, which he left in 1973. [2] (http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/1999/11-08-99/vo15no23_police.htm) Today, King specializes in analysing political and religious sects. He is known as a critic of the Lyndon LaRouche movement and has worked with investigative journalists Chip Berlet and Russ Bellant in claiming illegal activities and bigotry in the LaRouche organization.

on Chip Berlet

John Foster "Chip" Berlet (born November 22, 1949) is an American investigative journalist and researcher, who specializes in the study of right-wing movements in the U.S., particularly the religious right, white supremacists, homophobic groups, and paramilitary organizations. He also studies the spread of conspiracy theories in the mainstream media and on the Web. He is the senior analyst at Political Research Associates, a non-profit organization based in Somerville, Massachusetts, which tracks right-wing networks. [1] (http://www.publiceye.org/about.html) He is known as one of the first researchers to draw attention to the efforts by white supremacist and anti-Semitic groups to recruit farmers in the American mid-west in the 70s and 80s.

On the progressive Labor Party:

The Progressive Labor Party (originally the Progressive Labor Movement) is a minor communist political party in the United States. It was formed by members of the Communist Party USA who felt that the Soviet Union had betrayed Communism and become "revisionist". They also felt that the CPUSA was adopting too compromising a position: for instance, the CPUSA supported John F. Kennedy in the 1960 U.S. presidential election. Based on the East Coast, the PLP was at first a very small grouping nostalgic for the time of Stalin.

Nevertheless, it began to recruit when, after the overthrow of Fulgencio Batista in Cuba, many of its members travelled to that country in order to break the embargo. This resulted in a congressional investigation but also a certain expansion of its membership.

The group founded the campus-based May 2 Movement, which organized the first significant march against the Vietnam War in New York City in 1964. The PLP then forced the dissolution of M2M and entered the Students for a Democratic Society (SDS) as the latter began to grow rapidly into the primary vehicle for campus protest against the Vietnam War. The PLP also rapidly recruited party members on the campuses and became the largest communist faction within SDS. As factional politics within SDS assumed an ever more heated atmosphere and as the contending factions adopted a vocabulary drawn from the communist movement, the PLP organised its supporters into the Worker Student Alliance. Its main opponent was the Revolutionary Youth Movement, and the clash between the two would reduce SDS to a rump very rapidly, as most students were unable to comprehend the seemingly esoteric disputes between the two.

PLP members are critical of Stalin's bureaucratism and lack of emphasis on political education of the masses; however, they also deny the generally accepted view of Stalin's rule, claiming that the numbers killed were far fewer than the many millions that are widely believed. New America, the newspaper of the Social Democrats USA, has called the PLP's position on Stalin "gulag revisionism"

 

[go2]

With enemies like ADL, Henry Kissinger, and the US Justice Department Lyndon LaRouche's ideas and political action seem worthy of study, rather than simply accepting the words of his detractors. His writings can be studied in the archive linked below for those who prefer original sources. He claims to be a modern Prometheous championing mankind against the Aristotelian oligarchy centered in the City of London and Wall Street.

_http://www.larouchepub.com/

_http://www.schillerinstitute.org/exon/exon_toc.html